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Just for final clarification yes, we evolved from monkeys.

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Abiogenesis is the beginning of life and the beginning of evolution if you believe in evolution .

And the thread topic is not about abiogenesis! Why are you not getting this?
 
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Similarity can be viewed as being the consequence of our being designed by the same designer who followed similar design- schemes for all the kinds he designed. Being intended to reside on the same planet, we were of course provided with many functional similarities.
 
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Similarity can be viewed as being the consequence of our being designed by the same designer who followed similar design- schemes for all the kinds he designed. Being intended to reside on the same planet, we were of course provided with many functional similarities.

God's plan and design works pretty good and plants , animals are digestable and taste good to eat ...
 
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Similarity can be viewed as being the consequence of our being designed by the same designer who followed similar design- schemes for all the kinds he designed. Being intended to reside on the same planet, we were of course provided with many functional similarities.


What falsifiable test can you run to demonstrate this claim? What evidence do you have?

Intelligent design has lost in the court room more than once. ID proponents got humiliated in the Dover case. It's unscientific nonsense.
 
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God's plan and design works pretty good and plants , animals are digestable and taste good to eat ...

What is the falsifiable test for design? What would we expect to see if it wasn't designed? If you cannot perform such a test, then design is unscientific and utter nonsense.
 
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What is the falsifiable test for design? What would we expect to see if it wasn't designed? If you cannot perform such a test, then design is unscientific and utter nonsense.

And if scientists can't take the same ingredients required for life and reproduce it ?
 
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From your opinion of what life come from , you seem to take authority like you know it all

So... do you actually have anything intelligent to add to this conversation or do you just want to derail it?
 
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Similarity can be viewed as being the consequence of our being designed by the same designer who followed similar design- schemes for all the kinds he designed. Being intended to reside on the same planet, we were of course provided with many functional similarities.

As has been pointed out numerous times, the problem with "common design" is that it's an ad hoc proposition that lacks predictive or explanatory power and cannot be falsified thus rendering it unscientific. You would also need to explain things like:
- Why humans and chimpanzees share 203,000 ERVs
- Why all primates, including humans, share a broken GULO gene.
- Why whales have a broken gene package for hind leg development and develop hind limb buds in utero.

Abiogenesis is impossible

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Abiogenesis is the beginning of life and the beginning of evolution if you believe in evolution .

Actually evolution got started some time after abiogenesis, if that was the source of the origin of life. It would have to have gotten to the point where it was reproducing and passing along DNA to offspring before evolution kicks in.
 
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And if scientists can't take the same ingredients required for life and reproduce it ?

Once again, abiogenesis has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. Why do you dishonestly keep bringing it up?
 
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And if scientists can't take the same ingredients required for life and reproduce it ?
It wouldn't make any difference. Even if they did succeed, God's creative involvement in the experiment on the same footing as the original creation of life could not be ruled out. ID is a non-falsifiable proposition.
 
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