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bonniea84

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No worries, Theresa. :) I cried at the point when I realized how badly Jesus was beaten. It was so painful, but at the same time I really believe it was something I needed to see. The end was ... the end. That's all I'll say not to give it away to anyone who hadn't seen it yet. The one thing I'd recommend to you who hadn't seen it is to make sure you have plenty of Kleenex or a very sturdy handkerchief. BTW, when I left the movie theater, I was an emotional wreck for quite some time, and it took me a few hours to recover.

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Hey just stopping in before i go to work today. Hows everyone doing? I hope all are well. I cried half way through The Passion and missed the ending so I want to go see it again.. but maybe ill just wait until the dvd comes out... Hey Dsdumpling...... that post about the new names... i got bored one day lol that was cool...its quite funny what you can find these days. Yall, im in the process of looking for a new job and my favorite store is coming into the mall that i live across the street from. Anyways they called me yesterday and wanted to set up an interview for today at 4pm California time.... Will you all keep me in prayer pls. I reallly reallllly reallllllly want this job. I dont know if you have heard of this store before but its called the Build A Bear Workshop... you get to make teddybears there! I love going into that store.... i so could spend lots of money there. Anyways, it looks like a place that would be fun to work at. Ill keep you updated... well i must go off to work. Love to all!


Until the World Stops SPinnin,

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Hi all!

I'm just checking in to say hello. We're all fine over here.

This Saturday, we (Jews all over the world) will read Numbers 1:1-4:19. Our Sages comment on the very last verse in the reading & note how it specifically bars anyone from:

"...going in to see the holy things as they are being covered, lest they die."
Among the aforementioned "holy things" were, of course, the cherubim atop the holy Ark.

Yet the Talmud tells us that:

When the Israelites came up [to the First Temple in Jerusalem] on the Pilgrim Festivals, the curtain would be removed for them and the cherubim shown to them, their bodies interlocked with one another, and they [the priests] would say to them: 'Look, you are beloved before God as the love between man and woman.'
Our Sages note the seeming contradiction and ask that if the cherubim atop the ark in the Tabernacle in the wilderness were off-limits to public view as they were being covered & uncovered, how could the priests in the Temple in Jerusalem purposely expose them to public view?

A rabbi back in our old neighborhood in Jerusalem explained it by means of an analogy to a married couple. When a husband & wife are newly-married, they will find dressing/undressing in each other's company and being in each other's intimate company awkward at first (especially if they come from conservative backgrounds, such as that of orthodox Judaism, in which any contact, let alone intimate contact, between the sexes is very, very limited & when such contact is very new to the newlyweds). It may take them a while before they are used to it (it certainly did for DW & myself :blush: ). But once the couple have been together for a while, they become comfortable in each other's (especially intimate) presence & will find it very natural to dress/undress in each other's presence. So, my rabbi said, when we were in the wilderness, our intimacy with God was very new and, hence, awkward; thus great care had to be taken when covering & uncovering the cherubim. But by the time we built the Temple in Jerusalem, we had become comfortable in God's intimate presence; thus, the cherubim were open to view; such close intimacy with God had, by then, become natural.

Our Sages teach that when God was angry at us, the cherubim faced away from each other, but that when He was pleased with us, they would not only face other, but be intertwined in an embrace of love. (I wonder how they would be facing today?)

Be well & be in touch!

ssv :wave:
 
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ssv said:
Our Sages teach that when God was angry at us, the cherubim faced away from each other, but that when He was pleased with us, they would not only face other, but be intertwined in an embrace of love. (I wonder how they would be facing today?)
That is a very good question ssv. I pray He finds us ever mindful of His ways and not our ways.

I always enjoy reading your posts and continue to pray for you and your family. :prayer:
 
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stillsmallvoice said:
Our Sages note the seeming contradiction and ask that if the cherubim atop the ark in the Tabernacle in the wilderness were off-limits to public view as they were being covered & uncovered, how could the priests in the Temple in Jerusalem purposely expose them to public view?

A rabbi back in our old neighborhood in Jerusalem explained it by means of an analogy to a married couple. When a husband & wife are newly-married, they will find dressing/undressing in each other's company and being in each other's intimate company awkward at first (especially if they come from conservative backgrounds, such as that of orthodox Judaism, in which any contact, let alone intimate contact, between the sexes is very, very limited & when such contact is very new to the newlyweds). It may take them a while before they are used to it (it certainly did for DW & myself :blush: ). But once the couple have been together for a while, they become comfortable in each other's (especially intimate) presence & will find it very natural to dress/undress in each other's presence. So, my rabbi said, when we were in the wilderness, our intimacy with God was very new and, hence, awkward; thus great care had to be taken when covering & uncovering the cherubim. But by the time we built the Temple in Jerusalem, we had become comfortable in God's intimate presence; thus, the cherubim were open to view; such close intimacy with God had, by then, become natural.

Our Sages teach that when God was angry at us, the cherubim faced away from each other, but that when He was pleased with us, they would not only face other, but be intertwined in an embrace of love. (I wonder how they would be facing today?)

Be well & be in touch!

ssv :wave:

ssv
This realy speaks to me. I have been on a journey for the past few months. I have a deep desire to know God better through prayer. Sometimes I find praying hard. It is hard to set aside the time and quiet myself enough to hear Him. Maybe it has been hard for me because I am not intamte in my relationship with Him. Perhaps, as time goes by and more time is spent alone with Him it will become easier as your rabbi suggests.

Love to all of you fellowshippers,
mle
 
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