june 8th---june 11th

[Kruser]

I was really looking forward to something too.....

Edit: Now i see the post above me...

Interesting... ill keep it in prayer..

 

[millerrod]

Dondi dont sgh just yet, on june 9th at 1:45pm Hamas milatary backed out of a truce with Israel, they Hamas stated [ the earthquake in Israel will start ], between the 9th and the 11th over 60 rockets have been fired into Israel by arab terrorists--Hamas, it is the statement THE EARTHQUAKE IN ISRAEL WILL START, is what confirms this for myself. as i am sure all know that we should keep our eyes to Israel for signs of the season we are in. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 states, for when they shall say Peace and saftey; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a child; and they shall not escape, that peace that truce has been broken, this is yet another sign of the season we are now in. violence, strife and contention from this time forward will be as the world has never seen, As the sons and daughters of God we must standfast and overcome, knowing Christs return is our hope, our promise of that which is to come.

 

[Dondi]

Dondi dont sgh just yet, on june 9th at 1:45pm Hamas milatary backed out of a truce with Israel, they Hamas stated [ the earthquake in Israel will start ], between the 9th and the 11th over 60 rockets have been fired into Israel by arab terrorists--Hamas, it is the statement THE EARTHQUAKE IN ISRAEL WILL START, is what confirms this for myself. as i am sure all know that we should keep our eyes to Israel for signs of the season we are in. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 states, for when they shall say Peace and saftey; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a child; and they shall not escape, that peace that truce has been broken, this is yet another sign of the season we are now in. violence, strife and contention from this time forward will be as the world has never seen, As the sons and daughters of God we must standfast and overcome, knowing Christs return is our hope, our promise of that which is to come.

This isn't nothing new nor earthshaking. This thing has been going on for a long time. I'd be more surprise if they signed a unilateral treaty ending all agression toward each other.

 

[millerrod]

Dondi i am VERY used to doubt from others, i am only being obident to God and deliver the message that i am suposed to deliver, i have no control of what anyone thinks or believes, only that i must be obident to what i have been shown as truth, i would agree that violence is nothing new to this region, however the statement that an earthquake will begin by Hamas as well as this statement being made by other terrorist groups are a sign that has been shown to me, it is not up to me to convince you that is a job for the Spirit that resides within you, it is only for me to warn of a new sign of a change that is comming, it is not mans doubt that concerns me it is my obidence to God that concerns me and this and this only is why i posted. faith , belief, doubt, discernment, these things are between you and the Holy Spirit, my will has been given to God it would never be my intent to error in a message delivered.

 

[millerrod]

this reminds me of a story my mother told of what happened when i was a child i was in the back yard, the sun was shinning and the weather aparently seemed nice out my mother was indoors she said i came walking in to the house and told her a carrot ate the barn, she stated she laughed and told me i should lie that my nose would grow, latter she went into the back yard to take the laundry off the line and looked and the barn was completly gone, not even a scrap of lumber anywhere, and the cloths were still on the line , she said it scared her to death, they decided that a tornado must have hit, because of what i had said, a carrot ate the barn. no big roaring storm no warning of any kind yet the barn was gone. not all signs come right out and grab you some are so slight so unseen that without a warning, someone to bring notice to them they would go unseen unnoticed.

 

[Dondi]

Dondi i am VERY used to doubt from others, i am only being obident to God and deliver the message that i am suposed to deliver, i have no control of what anyone thinks or believes, only that i must be obident to what i have been shown as truth, i would agree that violence is nothing new to this region, however the statement that an earthquake will begin by Hamas as well as this statement being made by other terrorist groups are a sign that has been shown to me, it is not up to me to convince you that is a job for the Spirit that resides within you, it is only for me to warn of a new sign of a change that is comming, it is not mans doubt that concerns me it is my obidence to God that concerns me and this and this only is why i posted. faith , belief, doubt, discernment, these things are between you and the Holy Spirit, my will has been given to God it would never be my intent to error in a message delivered.

You should be obedient to the Lord. Just make sure that is WAS from the Lord. After all Satan can transform into an angel of light and deceive even the elect. It's healthy to be skeptical. One can find messages in every dream and every vision, but how does one validate these things? People want to interpret every little dream they have. But sometimes, they are just dreams.

 

[millerrod]

The Holy Spirit within each of us holds this answer. Dondi a month before hurricane Rita hit God had shown me exactly where it would hit , i emailed the towns the schools, fire departments everyone and everybody even CNN seemed no one believed everyone thought i was crazy a quack till it hit then they wanted to talk to me , then i had nothing to say to them, why did God give me this message to deliver when no one believed, i just dont know , maybe just maybe one person left early maybe one life the life God sought to save was spared, i just dont know and i never will, so it has been with each and every message given, We must decern the messages we recieve this is no doubt, let me assure you before my mouth opens or my fingers move the message has been decerned to the best of the ability God has given me. May God bless you and be with you in all you do.

 

[gracechick]

I admire you Millerd.

It has seemed for me that the times I faced the most doubt from others is when the message was the most sound & powerful. & came to pass exactly as He said, but in His time.

 

[millerrod]

thank you gracechick, words of encoragement are comforting as the waves of disbelief begin to pound upon us. may God bless you in all you do as you serve our Father.

 

[Kruser]

Millerrod, as much as I would love to believe you, I can't. I cannot say you are lying, and I cannot say you are saying the truth. To most of us, you do not have proof of existence, or anything you say. I am not accusing you of lying. I am just saying that the only person I can believe right now is God.

I will pray over this to God and see what he has to say to me.

 

[+RubiesFire+]

Even though these Dates of June 8th - 11th of 2006 did not come to pass.......

What If something does happen next year on these Dates?! Remember God has no time, mankind does.

I still believe Millerod 100% but these dates could be another time.

Also to point somethings out to some-If you doubt this is actually coming from God, and you may believe this might be an Angel of Light/ Satan, remember the Bible tells us to question the Spirits, I know my Mom told me to ask this, "Who is Jesus?" If the Spirit/Angel cannot answer you, then you'll know. I know my friend says something different.

I've had dreams, visions even of certain dates and things happening, I thought it would happen that year, I was wrong. Sometimes it happened that date, but on a different year.

 

[millerrod]

kruser what dont you believe? do you not believe that a truce has been broken? that can be checked out by israel news as so can the statement that an earthquake of violence is to begin towards israel? this to can be checked out by searching israel news. in the weeks and months to come and the violance and strife and contention of the world increase you will then know when that sign was given, you may sit back and doubt but the violance the strife the contention will find you and you will believe. rubiesfire what were you expecting to see, yet you think it has not come to pass, with the statement from two goverments stating an earthquake of violence against israel has began, a treaty of peace being broken, has our faith grown so small that God has to remove a mountian, or send the stars falling upon us before we believe a sign or a message from Him. He speaks to us in our sleep because when awake our faith is to weak to hear, then when He speaks and guides us in our sleep and we begin to hear we have breathren who discourage us to believe as if its not possible or wrong that God speaks to us in our dreams, how can we ever seek the truth when there are so many Thomases among us puting doubt in our minds when we should be praising God for a message , prasing God for Loving us enough to give us warning of the times ahead of us. In a time that we need to have unity we are in contention amongest ourselves, in a time when we should Love one another, we have doubt for one another, i fear what it is that will get our attention, what it is that will bring us together as one, the signs you seem to seek they are comming, it is the early warnings, the less noticeable signs that if we believe will help us grow as one to overcome that which is comming. God will do that what will bring us together as one, from this lack of faith shown i fear that which it will take to do so, may God strengthen us for what is comming, and may we be unified before it comes.

 

[Kruser]

Lack of faith? I'm sorry, but I have complete faith in God. Yes, the scripture says that, and I see the events coming in order as named in the bible. I know where you are coming from, but I want to ask, and question God myself. He will give me an answer, I know he will. I do not call questioning a vision statement from someone I do not know, do not have any prior knowledge of, and who has no way online proving these visions a "lack of faith".

I am not saying that what you stated is a vision or not, I am not trying to disprove anything you are saying. I am simply saying that questioning this is not a "lack of faith". I would have to say that questioning this and bringing it to God will only stregnthing my faith.

 

[+RubiesFire+]

rubiesfire what were you expecting to see, yet you think it has not come to pass, with the statement from two goverments stating an earthquake of violence against israel has began, a treaty of peace being broken, has our faith grown so small that God has to remove a mountian, or send the stars falling upon us before we believe a sign or a message from Him. He speaks to us in our sleep because when awake our faith is to weak to hear, then when He speaks and guides us in our sleep and we begin to hear we have breathren who discourage us to believe as if its not possible or wrong that God speaks to us in our dreams, how can we ever seek the truth when there are so many Thomases among us puting doubt in our minds when we should be praising God for a message , prasing God for Loving us enough to give us warning of the times ahead of us. In a time that we need to have unity we are in contention amongest ourselves, in a time when we should Love one another, we have doubt for one another, i fear what it is that will get our attention, what it is that will bring us together as one, the signs you seem to seek they are comming, it is the early warnings, the less noticeable signs that if we believe will help us grow as one to overcome that which is comming. God will do that what will bring us together as one, from this lack of faith shown i fear that which it will take to do so, may God strengthen us for what is comming, and may we be unified before it comes.

I still believe you have a gift, However my faith in God has not grown small, I don't expect to see Miraclous signs to believe, maybe when I was a child.
I now live by faith not by sight, even though I am struggling with Christ himself, I have not given up on him nor he on me, nor do I look for any signs from him, I trust on faith, and that is something that took me a long time to accomplish.
Nor have I doubted by what you said, so no I am not a Thomas, even with those selected Dates I was myself-I left that in God's hands if something great or something small was to come then that was his will.
Like I said before-Never did I say I was hoping for a Big Sign, neither have I changed in those other days, I was just my normal self, being who I am, not being a Sign Seeking Christian.
That's who I am. Not a Sign Seeker. But a Person who seeks and learns God.

God Bless.

 

[millerrod]

i am sorry if i offended, i see how it could be taken that way and i am sorry for offending if i have done so, inside i feel a panic for those lost as i once was, God has shown me what will be possible when we come together as one, when we are unified, when the body works as one, that what i feel, the panic the sadness the mourning for those lost if i am not very carful can turn to frustration and discouragement and if i allow that to happen the enemy will overcome and i will not let that happen he ruined to much of my life already, i like yourselves am a child of God and i try to walk in Love and if i have offended you in any way then i am in error and for this i am sorry, however i cannot apolizize for delivering a message given to me to deliver nor is it in error. i have been obeident and served as called, and God will defend me and the truth will be seen, in this iam certain, my error was to think even for a moment that i must defend myself, may God forgive me for doubting His protection.

 

[millerrod]

rubiesfire, and kruser you are so much more than i can ever be, you will stand before Christ and be able to say by Faith and Faith alone have i Loved you, what a gift this will be, by faith will He be glorified, never seeing never hearing and yet you Love him, how truly wonderful. i on the other hand am but a fool if i dont believe, but a fool if i dont Love Christ, He has shown Himself to me and i have heard His voice, been shown His return, and been face to face with the enemy, i would truly have be a fool not to believe. i can never give the gift of faith to Christ as you and others can, the gift of by faith and faith alone i have Loved you, i will never be able to say this to Christ though i wish i could, the best i can do is say i heard your voice i delivered your message, i was obident, i served you, i Love you. but i will never be able to say by faith alone have i Loved you and this is the true gift, the only gift , the gift with the greatest meaning that we can give back to the One who Loved us enough to give all. i truly admire all who can say by faith alone have i Loved Him. and i would never mean to offend those who i look up to in admiration.

 

[Kruser]

rubiesfire, and kruser you are so much more than i can ever be, you will stand before Christ and be able to say by Faith and Faith alone have i Loved you, what a gift this will be, by faith will He be glorified, never seeing never hearing and yet you Love him, how truly wonderful. i on the other hand am but a fool if i dont believe, but a fool if i dont Love Christ, He has shown Himself to me and i have heard His voice, been shown His return, and been face to face with the enemy, i would truly have be a fool not to believe. i can never give the gift of faith to Christ as you and others can, the gift of by faith and faith alone i have Loved you, i will never be able to say this to Christ though i wish i could, the best i can do is say i heard your voice i delivered your message, i was obident, i served you, i Love you. but i will never be able to say by faith alone have i Loved you and this is the true gift, the only gift , the gift with the greatest meaning that we can give back to the One who Loved us enough to give all. i truly admire all who can say by faith alone have i Loved Him. and i would never mean to offend those who i look up to in admiration.

What? We are not better than you... we cannot be more than you can.. In christ's eyes, we are all the same, and never, NEVER, can we call ourselves better than any others.

And you did not offend me at all, I was just stating that I could not 100% believe your statements, because I do not know who you are.

You can say by faith that you loved him, becuase we all make mistakes. I cannot clearly see the mistake you made, you were relaying a vision you saw. I'm sorry if I seemed like I was critisizing you.

You clearly have a strong faith in God, as you believe in the rapture, end times, and most of all, you believe in him.

Know it's all going to be all right, and remember, you do have faith. You can say you have faith. Believe in him, believe what he says. Pray for guidance.

God Bless.. I'll be praying for you.

 

[+RubiesFire+]

rubiesfire, and kruser you are so much more than i can ever be, you will stand before Christ and be able to say by Faith and Faith alone have i Loved you, what a gift this will be, by faith will He be glorified, never seeing never hearing and yet you Love him, how truly wonderful. i on the other hand am but a fool if i dont believe, but a fool if i dont Love Christ, He has shown Himself to me and i have heard His voice, been shown His return, and been face to face with the enemy, i would truly have be a fool not to believe. i can never give the gift of faith to Christ as you and others can, the gift of by faith and faith alone i have Loved you, i will never be able to say this to Christ though i wish i could, the best i can do is say i heard your voice i delivered your message, i was obident, i served you, i Love you. but i will never be able to say by faith alone have i Loved you and this is the true gift, the only gift , the gift with the greatest meaning that we can give back to the One who Loved us enough to give all. i truly admire all who can say by faith alone have i Loved Him. and i would never mean to offend those who i look up to in admiration.

My Friend in Christ-

Like Kruser said, we're no better than anyone else, we're all the same in God's eyes. We all sin. Faith can be accomplished by anyone, even though my relationship with Christ is cold, slowly lukewarm, I don't consider myself even worthy of Christ's time, yes I admit that, I wonder why he would even pick me out to do somethings for him that is in the making right now. So why did Christ chose you? Are we worthy of it? Probably not. Yet Christ chose you like he did with me, and with millions of other Christians with spiritual gift, we show the entire world the love of Christ and to teach others.
The thing is Yes you can give the faith to others, it takes time to build. The reason I have it, was I went through a very valuable lesson when I was younger, I went through things that takes people up to 30 to 50 years to figure out or even learn, and yet Christ taught me seven years of this, and I am still going through the trials. Am I carrying a heavy cross? Yes I am . And I am proud to say that I am. Faith is also learning how to say, "Today I will trust in God," even though it is hard, or also saying, "I am having a bad day, but I will trust in God to help me out of this."
The thing is you are blessed by God, however do not let Satan trap your thoughts by saying You will never have faith! Don't let the enemy win, fight him off by saying, "I will have faith!" Even though you don't feel it or believe in it, say it anyways.
Satan may use us as pawns, but we have the power to say, Check & Mate, which means enough is enough.
I still see Christ in dreams, but now in a Lion form. When I was in my teens, I saw him in dreams, and even heard his voice, I no longer see him like that anymore. Does it change my faith in him? No. Because I know he is still there, even though I feel like he's not.
Yet lets say Christ never showed in any dreams or visions-how many people would actually begin depending on faith instead of on sight? Probably many. We need to learn to have faith in believing he's there all the time.
Like I said, the Lord has given you a gift. And if you want to say something to Christ, just say it outloud in your home. If you're shy like me, I type it down on the computer, which helps me out a lot.

Faith is strength, and the Lord shall bless you with it.


P.S. You never offended me. I don't get offended that easily.

 

[Dondi]

My aim is not to offend anybody or beat anyone down. If you wish to believe in your prophesy or whatever, even though it didn't come to pass, that's up to you. I look for truth in any situation, I'm not here to pander to anyone's ego.

But hey, if I gave a prophesy, I would want to know if it came to pass also, but I'm humble enough to acknowledge that if it didn't come to pass, then maybe it wasn't from the Lord. Fine, I'd accept that and admit that the prophesy was not true. It does nothing to effect my relationship with the Lord.

 

[millerrod]

kruser and rubiesfire my words seem to be misunderstood, if a man touches a tree, wraps his arms around it he knows it is there he cannot denie its existance, yet if another far away is told of the tree and never seeing it he believes it exists whos faith is greater, yes they both believe, but whos faith would be a greater gift if given.
Dondi if my interpertation of the message that was to be delivered was in error i would immeditlly make that be known if there was any pride left in me would i be willing to go through the ridicule that goes along with delivering a message i think not. if you will take your computor to israel news you will see what is unfolding even this hour in israel it is much more than the normal violance that has been seen.