Judgment day

[Steffenfield]

Thank you Steve.

For me, it still feels like a coin flip on where I'll spend eternity.

50-50 isn't too bad of odds though.

 

[Servant.DujmovJr]

Thank you Steve.

For me, it still feels like a coin flip on where I'll spend eternity.

50-50 isn't too bad of odds though.

It's not 50-50. It's 100% guranteed.
Everyone knows John 3:16; But what about John 3:15?
" that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life"
God's love towards us is unconditional; The only condition to salvation is to believe.
I know that Christ said that; "There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth". But it is my believe that none will go to hell. I believe hell is reserved for satan and the third of the angels that were cast down. I don't have scripture to point to and say specifically this proves my point. Instead, it is what I feel in my heart.
Every man and/or woman born into the world has the Light of Christ. On the day of redemption Christ will reconcile all things unto Himself.
It is my belief that it is God's will that all should be saved and that none should perish. In that day, all will know that Christ is the Son of God; And therefore all will believe, and therefore all will be saved.
May God's will be done. Amen.
Peace unto you
Steve

 

[Alive_Again]

t's not 50-50. It's 100% guranteed.
...The only condition to salvation is to believe.

Really, if you look at everything the gospels say, it implies that you must repent and believe. You must turn from your sins. This is where your free will comes in. It's imperative that you exercise it. Choose life and keep choosing it.

I know that Christ said that; "There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth". But it is my believe that none will go to hell. I believe hell is reserved for satan and the third of the angels that were cast down. I don't have scripture to point to and say specifically this proves my point. Instead, it is what I feel in my heart.

It is important to establish the things that we say with the Word of God.

The "weeping and gnashing of teeth" scriptures preach a message all by themselves.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matt 13:41-43

But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 24:48-51


And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 25:30

Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Luke 13:23-28

Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 22:9-13

Your wedding garment is your robe of righteousness when you repent and believe. Not only do you need one, you need to "keep" your garment.

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:26-27

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2 Peter 3:14-17

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 3:3-5

Every man and/or woman born into the world has the Light of Christ.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Cor 6:14

It is my belief that it is God's will that all should be saved and that none should perish. In that day, all will know that Christ is the Son of God; And therefore all will believe, and therefore all will be saved.

It is His will for all to be saved.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matt 7:13-14

 

[Servant.DujmovJr]

Really, if you look at everything the gospels say, it implies that you must repent and believe. You must turn from your sins. This is where your free will comes in. It's imperative that you exercise it. Choose life and keep choosing it.

No. The only requirement is that you believe, John 3:15.
We are saved by GRACE, it is a gift. You can not earn it!

It is important to establish the things that we say with the Word of God.

The "weeping and gnashing of teeth" scriptures preach a message all by themselves.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matt 13:41-43

But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 24:48-51


And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 25:30

Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Luke 13:23-28

Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 22:9-13

Your wedding garment is your robe of righteousness when you repent and believe. Not only do you need one, you need to "keep" your garment.

That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:26-27

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2 Peter 3:14-17

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 3:3-5

Being saved from hell and entering the kingdom are two different things. Many christians try very hard to earn their salvation with good works. We are saved by GRACE and not by works. I know it will be dissapointing to many christians who have worked so hard at being righteous; watching "sinners" enter the kingdom while they are left outside saying; "Lord, Lord let us in; did we not do many works in Your name?" Those who were first will be last; and those who were last will be first; And those who have bore the heat of the day and worked hard for their salvation will say: "Lord, Lord let us in." And Christ will answer; "I know you not."

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Cor 6:14

Saducees and Pharicees.Christ ate and drank with sinners. They called Him a drunkard and a winebibber. The well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick have the need. Love not only those who love you. Do not have mercy only for those whom you think "deserve it".
"Do not be unequally yoked"-Where sin abounds....Grace must abound the more.

It is His will for all to be saved.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matt 7:13-14

Entering the Kingdom and being saved from hell are two different things. You CAN NOT earn salvation; It is a gift. By grace we are saved and NOT of works, lest any man should boast.
If it is God's will that all should be saved.....then all will be saved.
Every man and/or woman born into the world has the Light of Christ. All things that were created were created through Him; And there is nothing that was created that was not created by Him. All belong to Christ; And Christ will reconcile All things unto Himself.
I know, it is dissapointing and frustrating for christians, who have worked so hard, to find out, that; salvation is not earned by works. IT IS A GIFT!

I say these things with love and hope.
Peace unto you
Steve

 

[Jeshu]

Entering the Kingdom and being saved from hell are two different things. You CAN NOT earn salvation; It is a gift. By grace we are saved and NOT of works, lest any man should boast.
If it is God's will that all should be saved.....then all will be saved.
Every man and/or woman born into the world has the Light of Christ. All things that were created were created through Him; And there is nothing that was created that was not created by Him. All belong to Christ; And Christ will reconcile All things unto Himself.
I know, it is dissapointing and frustrating for christians, who have worked so hard, to find out, that; salvation is not earned by works. IT IS A GIFT!

I say these things with love and hope.
Peace unto you
Steve

Thank you for defending The Truth of God's Word, our brother Alive Again has a real problem with having to do works to be saved and fearing hell for God's own.

I agree with Wayfaring man on the fate of The Wicked - they are certainly going to hell - and us by God created kiddies will all end-up in Heaven.

I believe we lost sinners have been robbed of our TRUE LIFE and harbour untrue spirits within who rule us in and with sin. This causes us to be true abominations for though we are in God';s image we are evil heeding the tempter and then falling for the dragon lining us up for dinner - time and again.

This understanding does not talk evildoers who dwell inside the hearts and minds of God's lost children free from eternal punishment but rather seals their fate - for how can they escape when The Truth comes for a chat?

And so God's own - the true persons - who should have been are killed - for the true offspring of God are oppressed, imprisoned and killed within sinners hearts - by those evil who beguiled them and inhabited them - making God's own in the image of utter wickedness. (Rev 17)

This is why The Wicked will go to hell for what they did - while dwelling inside God's children - while the person they inhabited and perverted - is set free and raised to life again by The Word when He comes back.

So to be a saved sinner means that us who were sinful and therefore untrue people - will be made righteous and true by Christ's sacrifice - this is GRATIS - - and not something those who have life in wickedness will receive.

For all that has life in wickedness within unbelievers (and believers alike) will die when The Truth comes down from Heaven - and so The Wicked ruling in human hearts will burn their evil forever more - none of them will escape God's Truth - His all consuming fire of love for His true children


And so The Truth of our eternal life will come down from Heaven - the 144,000 along with Christ - Rev 20- and rule us from Zion for aye



So please lets not throw God's own kiddies in hell like The wicked have been doing for so long - but like Christ take the side of God's lost Ones - sanctifying the lost sinners instead of condemning them along with the dragon ruling this planet.

All praise to Jesus!

 

[Alive_Again]

I said: You must turn from your sins. This is where your free will comes in. It's imperative that you exercise it. Choose life and keep choosing it.

No. The only requirement is that you believe, John 3:15. We are saved by GRACE, it is a gift. You can not earn it!

It's always by grace. You walk in the light by grace. Jesus receives you following your repentance by grace. You always have your part in the covenant. You can break it or you can keep it. It is never earned. Just being sorry and turning toward God doesn't redeem you. It takes the shedding of blood. That blood was Jesus'. It's still by grace. It's also the Word of God. You can't take one scripture and nullify all of the other ones.

See this scripture? Those who offend and do iniquity will burn. Those who sin do iniquity. You'll be judged by your fruits. If you walk in the light, you'll bear good fruit. If you walk in darkness, you'll bear bad fruits. You can only bear good fruit by grace, by abiding in the vine. You have no ability on your own to walk Godly or to bear fruit of the Holy Sprit. It is all grace.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Matt 13:41-43

Iniquity - The righteous = 2 fates. One for darkness and one for those in the light. He doesn't know the one in darkness.

And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 24:51

Hypocrites are sinners and their portion will be Hell.

You said everyone would be saved. For that to happen, you wouldn't even need to be born again.

Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able....depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Luke 13:23..28

Your name can be blot out of the book by committing iniquity.

...I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 3:3-5

\"Do not be unequally yoked"-Where sin abounds....Grace must abound the more.

You said everyone has light in them. Only those who receive Jesus, and then walk in the light have light in them. Unbelievers are "darkness".

If it is God's will that all should be saved.....then all will be saved.

Jesus said that few would be saved, because it's a narrow way unto life.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Matt 7:13-14

I know, it is dissapointing and frustrating for christians, who have worked so hard, to find out, that; salvation is not earned by works. IT IS A GIFT!

It is a gift, but just as sure as you are sitting in front of your computer, you'll be judged by your works.

 

[Alive_Again]

Thank you for defending The Truth of God's Word, our brother Alive Again has a real problem with having to do works to be saved and fearing hell for God's own.

I've covered this a number of times. Your works will never save you. I've said this over and over and yet you accuse me Jeshu of saying that. You cannot hear what I'm saying. You are saved by grace. You will still by judged according to your works. You are supposed to have righteous works (by grace) on this Earth. We all need mercy, but that doesn't mean the Word no longer applies to you.

I agree with Wayfaring man on the fate of The Wicked - they are certainly going to hell - and us by God created kiddies will all end-up in Heaven.

You well know that "God created kiddies" can do wicked and commit iniquity too. Judge your own fruits. I can't see them and it's not for me to condemn you, but by your own description they sound bad.

...harbour untrue spirits within who rule us in and with sin.
...This causes us to be true abominations
...evildoers who dwell inside the hearts and minds of God's lost children
...oppressed, imprisoned and killed within sinners hearts
...God's own in the image of utter wickedness. (Rev 17)
...the person they inhabited and perverted - is set free and raised to life again by The Word when He comes back.
...So please lets not throw God's own kiddies in hell like The wicked have been doing for so long

Please remember that I'm giving you Word of God. I'm not condemning you. You locate yourself and judge your fruits. If they are worthy of death, do something about it and don't blame me for pointing out that everyone will be judged by their fruits. This is for your benefit to address this while you're on this Earth.

If you are born again you have a covenant that provides you with the nature of eternal life within you. You have dominion over wicked spirits who would afflict you. Deliverance often has to be walked out. If you need it, you need to be going to a church where they minister it and make sure you aren't excusing yourself and your fruit in a doctrine that conflicts with the Word. The divine nature provides overcoming power against sin in your life. Christians need to be filled with the Spirit to walk in victory.

Jesus will set you free in this life, not just when He comes back. You need to be set free to stay unspotted.

I'm doing you a big favor to point this out because people allow spirits to insulate them from the truth of the full counsel of God's Word.

You're not supposed to be ruled by darkness. You're not to be a true abomination, imprisoned with a corrupt sinner's heart. Evil spirits will cause you to bear bad fruit, but you can be delivered. You will have to press in for this.

 

[Jeshu]

I've covered this a number of times. Your works will never save you. I've said this over and over and yet you accuse me Jeshu of saying that. You cannot hear what I'm saying. You are saved by grace. You will still by judged according to your works. You are supposed to have righteous works (by grace) on this Earth. We all need mercy, but that doesn't mean the Word no longer applies to you.



You well know that "God created kiddies" can do wicked and commit iniquity too. Judge your own fruits. I can't see them and it's not for me to condemn you, but by your own description they sound bad.


Please remember that I'm giving you Word of God. I'm not condemning you. You locate yourself and judge your fruits. If they are worthy of death, do something about it and don't blame me for pointing out that everyone will be judged by their fruits. This is for your benefit to address this while you're on this Earth.

If you are born again you have a covenant that provides you with the nature of eternal life within you. You have dominion over wicked spirits who would afflict you. Deliverance often has to be walked out. If you need it, you need to be going to a church where they minister it and make sure you aren't excusing yourself and your fruit in a doctrine that conflicts with the Word. The divine nature provides overcoming power against sin in your life. Christians need to be filled with the Spirit to walk in victory.

Jesus will set you free in this life, not just when He comes back. You need to be set free to stay unspotted.

I'm doing you a big favor to point this out because people allow spirits to insulate them from the truth of the full counsel of God's Word.

You're not supposed to be ruled by darkness. You're not to be a true abomination, imprisoned with a corrupt sinner's heart. Evil spirits will cause you to bear bad fruit, but you can be delivered. You will have to press in for this.

Sure our fruits demonstrate the spirituality in control of us and shows where the goats and where the sheep are located within.

If we judge and murder then we are from the devil - and if we love and bring around more good life then we are from God!

So those who deny the power of the cross - destort The Word - even within our hearts - are anti-Christ like forces which will end up in Hell.

And so the Word says that those who are born of God cannot sin - so your argument that God has created wicked kids is invalid and totally untrue - a horrible lie and accusation even - and it shows me how little you have understood sin and its cause dwelling within God's rightful children - who you keep judging and throwing in hell - The The Word talks all of them free.

The Word teaches that The devil through lies has gained entry into human hearts and has been stuffing us up so badly along with the evil he released from the abyss - that is the uncreated - the not allowed to exist in life - into life through our lives - by killing true us and making us untrue - psalm 14 - untrue means that we are not kids of God at all - but children of the devil.

like Isaiah says;

The righteous perish,
and no one takes it to heart;
the devout are taken away,
and no one understands
that the righteous are taken away
to be spared from evil.
Those who walk uprightly
enter into peace;
they find rest as they lie in death.

“But you—come here, you children of a sorceress,
you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes!
Who are you mocking?
At whom do you sneer
and stick out your tongue?
Are you not a brood of rebels,
the offspring of liars?


As far as my so called accusations to you are concerned - you have clearly demonstrated on these forums that you believe that by our decision we are saved or lost! Therefore you do not adhere to being saved by grace through faith - for according to your own words the blood of Christ does not save us - but our decision has to save us.

Worse, in your response to me - you demonstrate you do not understand how the devil and his mates has being inside of the human spirit through lies and robs them of true self and makes them untrue people - though he has done this to you and in you as well - yet you trust your decision to save you from untrue you - which is bound to bring much darkness alive within as decisions has brought humanity much darkness for ages already.

Joel 3:14-16

Multitudes, multitudes
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the LORD is near
in the valley of decision.
The sun and moon will be darkened,
and the stars no longer shine.
The LORD will roar from Zion
and thunder from Jerusalem;
the earth and the heavens will tremble.
But the LORD will be a refuge for his people,
a stronghold for the people of Israel.



You told us that because you decided to kill sinful self in you - you are now saved - while those others sinning - are not saved until they make the decisions you have - clearly denying the power of the The Word and The Cross - placing the burden of salvation back onto struggling and lost sinners - even on you yourself.

Such are no accusations my dear brother - I - and others - have seen you do this time and again - and no reason from our side has changed your mind about this.


When will you admit that Salvation is from on high and cannot be achieved by us!

Ephesians 2:8

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

So clearly not because of your decision you have been saved - nor by your discernment of sin and holiness either - but because Newness of life was poured into you by Jesus - for God gifted you with faith in His Son and through the work of His Spirit - GAVE YOU A NEW HEART - Ezekiel 36 - which is life in His Truth for what was killed by sin comes back to life - Ezekiel 37 - for only in Him we are saved and safe - Ezekiel 38.

Peace

 

[Servant.DujmovJr]

Hey Jeshu.....
You truly understand

To Alive Again,
Let me break it down, into simple terms:

God loves all of us, even the sinners....Christ died for the ungodly.

Entering the Kingdom of Heaven...and being saved from hell.... are not the same. Good works will be rewarded.....However, Every man and/or woman born into this world has the Light of life....The Light of Christ.

Christ will reconcile Himself unto Himself.
If you take the Light of Christ to create life....Why would you then cast it into hell? The Light used to create life will return unto it's giver....Christ.

Satan and the unholy angels have been using God's children.....to try to destroy God's beautiful creations.

Christ died for the ungodly....satan will be cast into the lake of fire and God's children ( His creations ) will be set free....

Peace unto you
Steve

 

[Lindros09]

You know there are people suffering right now and they are also Christians. You wouldn't cry when you are with Jesus after everything you went through and knowing that Jesus is your full joy and you will be with him forever?

 

[Alive_Again]

God loves all of us, even the sinners....Christ died for the ungodly.

Yes He did and does. He expects the ungodly to repent.Jesus said they will go to Hell if they do not repent and believe the good news. That includes those who have been born again. They have no excuse. They have been set free from the bondage of sin. Those not yet born into the kingdom are in bondage to sin. I'm not casting them into Hell. I'm giving you the Word. The Word is not intended to be bad news. It's only bad news to those who continue to sin. The good news is that if they seek the Lord while He may be found, He will save them.

Entering the Kingdom of Heaven...and being saved from hell.... are not the same.

How so? The Kingdom of God is within when you repent and receive Jesus as your Lord. If this is not the description of a person before they die, they go to Hell. After death is judgment.

The world are the children of darkness. They have no fellowship now nor will they ever have fellowship with the children of light.

 

[Alive_Again]

Sure our fruits demonstrate the spirituality in control of us and shows where the goats and where the sheep are located within.

The goats are not within us. The goats are those who walk in darkness. You are not a goat when you walk in the light. You are a sheep. You can choose to be a goat. It's your choice.

And so the Word says that those who are born of God cannot sin - so your argument that God has created wicked kids is invalid and totally untrue - a horrible lie and accusation even - and it shows me how little you have understood sin and its cause dwelling within God's rightful children - who you keep judging and throwing in hell - The The Word talks all of them free.

If your actions are born of the kingdom of God within, you will not sin. If you walk in darkness you will definitely sin. God has not created wicked kids and I have never said so. Every human being has freedom of choice and an independent will to exercise for Him or not. Sin should not dwell within God's children. They have been set free from the bondage of sin. Sin is the exception.

It IS God's will to set you free from sin. When I came into the kingdom, I needed deliverance. I kept bearing bad fruit and the enemy said I wasn't reborn. This was a lie, but I needed to be set free from wicked spirits. If I were going to a denominational church where that isn't being done, I would have stayed in a tug of war between sin and righteousness. We still have our flesh to contend with, but we are not supposed to be in bondage to it. You have the ability to stop sinning. You can walk in the light all day. Sin is the exception. We need to seek deliverance, because if you're still a liar, or offend people, or engage in unclean behavior, you're on thin ice. You can turn to God each time, but He expects you to finally repent. This means getting help if you need it. This is because your destiny is determined by the fruit you bear. Your rewards are forthcoming. If you offend, you will go to Hell. It doesn't matter if you were a covering cherub, a local bishop or what, the Word says those who offend will go to Hell. That's not just me saying it. Demon spirits bring even Christians into bondage and keep them bearing fruit worthy of Hell. Many carry these behaviors forward from their past because strongholds are built into their minds. Also, they are not told how to resist the devil.

If you need deliverance, you'd better seek it out and know that God is on your side.

Don't accept this, because there is hope! God wants to set you free. You must believe that healing and deliverance is yours. You must never be ruled by darkness. The devil cannot enter your heart unless you finally reject Christ for the last time. Strongholds are in your mind. That is the battlefield. This affects your body. You must live according to the Law written in your spirit. You must choose. God will give you grace to overcome if you're in bondage, but you must seek it.

...harbour untrue spirits within who rule us in and with sin.
...This causes us to be true abominations
...evildoers who dwell inside the hearts and minds of God's lost children
...oppressed, imprisoned and killed within sinners hearts
...God's own in the image of utter wickedness. (Rev 17)
...the person they inhabited and perverted - is set free and raised to life again by The Word when He comes back.

The Word teaches that The devil through lies has gained entry into human hearts and has been stuffing us up so badly along with the evil he released from the abyss - that is the uncreated - the not allowed to exist in life - into life through our lives - by killing true us and making us untrue - psalm 14 - untrue means that we are not kids of God at all - but children of the devil.

I'm sorry to say this Jeshu, truly... but these are the words of a defeated Christian in bondage to sin. Your heart wants to please God, but I can tell you, it's NOT a done deal. He will hold you accountable for your fruit. Your fruit determines if you are a sheep OR a goat. Not both. Your not just gonna shed your demons at the judgment and then trot off into Heaven. You must deal with that here. God often provides deathbed repentances, but you don't want to depend on that.

He wants you to live victoriously here, right in the now, for His glory. If needed and only you know, you must seek out deliverance from a church where it is ministered, even if you don't agree with certain doctrines. God will take care of that. Your freedom is the most important thing you can have. Go for it!

Don't be accusative to me for telling you that there is accountability.
Not everyone's going to Heaven and you must abide by the covenant.

As far as my so called accusations to you are concerned - you have clearly demonstrated on these forums that you believe that by our decision we are saved or lost!

You are saved by faith. Your abiding in Christ produces the works. If you're walking in the light, you produce good fruit. The Word clearly demonstrates that you must choice to abide in the grace of God while on the Earth.

Worse, in your response to me - you demonstrate you do not understand how the devil and his mates has being inside of the human spirit through lies and robs them of true self and makes them untrue people

There are no devils in your heart. There can be strongholds in the mind. If you accept this, there already are.

Such are no accusations my dear brother - I - and others - have seen you do this time and again - and no reason from our side has changed your mind about this.

You will always be accountable to the Word of God. I will too.

When will you admit that Salvation is from on high and cannot be achieved by us!

It is not achieved by us, we must receive it by faith and then walk in it by grace. With forgiveness at every turn of repentance. That is the Word of the covenant.

 

[Jeshu]

The goats are not within us. The goats are those who walk in darkness. You are not a goat when you walk in the light. You are a sheep. You can choose to be a goat. It's your choice.

If your actions are born of the kingdom of God within, you will not sin. If you walk in darkness you will definitely sin. God has not created wicked kids and I have never said so. Every human being has freedom of choice and an independent will to exercise for Him or not. Sin should not dwell within God's children. They have been set free from the bondage of sin. Sin is the exception.

It IS God's will to set you free from sin. When I came into the kingdom, I needed deliverance. I kept bearing bad fruit and the enemy said I wasn't reborn. This was a lie, but I needed to be set free from wicked spirits. If I were going to a denominational church where that isn't being done, I would have stayed in a tug of war between sin and righteousness. We still have our flesh to contend with, but we are not supposed to be in bondage to it. You have the ability to stop sinning. You can walk in the light all day. Sin is the exception. We need to seek deliverance, because if you're still a liar, or offend people, or engage in unclean behavior, you're on thin ice. You can turn to God each time, but He expects you to finally repent. This means getting help if you need it. This is because your destiny is determined by the fruit you bear. Your rewards are forthcoming. If you offend, you will go to Hell. It doesn't matter if you were a covering cherub, a local bishop or what, the Word says those who offend will go to Hell. That's not just me saying it. Demon spirits bring even Christians into bondage and keep them bearing fruit worthy of Hell. Many carry these behaviors forward from their past because strongholds are built into their minds. Also, they are not told how to resist the devil.

If you need deliverance, you'd better seek it out and know that God is on your side.

Don't accept this, because there is hope! God wants to set you free. You must believe that healing and deliverance is yours. You must never be ruled by darkness. The devil cannot enter your heart unless you finally reject Christ for the last time. Strongholds are in your mind. That is the battlefield. This affects your body. You must live according to the Law written in your spirit. You must choose. God will give you grace to overcome if you're in bondage, but you must seek it.


I'm sorry to say this Jeshu, truly... but these are the words of a defeated Christian in bondage to sin. Your heart wants to please God, but I can tell you, it's NOT a done deal. He will hold you accountable for your fruit. Your fruit determines if you are a sheep OR a goat. Not both. Your not just gonna shed your demons at the judgment and then trot off into Heaven. You must deal with that here. God often provides deathbed repentances, but you don't want to depend on that.

He wants you to live victoriously here, right in the now, for His glory. If needed and only you know, you must seek out deliverance from a church where it is ministered, even if you don't agree with certain doctrines. God will take care of that. Your freedom is the most important thing you can have. Go for it!

Don't be accusative to me for telling you that there is accountability.
Not everyone's going to Heaven and you must abide by the covenant.

You are saved by faith. Your abiding in Christ produces the works. If you're walking in the light, you produce good fruit. The Word clearly demonstrates that you must choice to abide in the grace of God while on the Earth.

There are no devils in your heart. There can be strongholds in the mind. If you accept this, there already are.


You will always be accountable to the Word of God. I will too.

It is not achieved by us, we must receive it by faith and then walk in it by grace. With forgiveness at every turn of repentance. That is the Word of the covenant.

My dear brother I despair your vision of understanding - how blind can one be?

Zion Descending.

At first I heard Dad say,
"Son let us make tracks,
Its near getting dark now,
The Chosen are all asleep,
now would be best,
as darkness reigns its peak
for arrogance has him blinded
to what is really going on."

My sun was darkened
and the moon turned to blood
the stars fell from Heaven
everything shaking in its boots.
wars and rumours of wars
famine and drought
living in wantonness
rulers making a living out of sin
Satan's forces installed everywhere
loveless forces ruling untruthfully.

I heard my inner world crying out in her dying pain,
"What is going on?
the Father is leaving us
without the Son,
this can only evil mean."

I heard the angels blow the trumpets!
"Woe to inhabitants of this world!"


I heard the agonising cry
coming from underneath the altar
the dead in God's love, longingly
awaiting newness of life!
"Yes oh Lord pour out their blood as they did ours!",

I heard the thunders rolling throughout my being,
"Let evil brood fear The Truth of God Almighty!
....let judgement begin in The House of God!"

I knew judgement had already began
When I beheld those massive hails stones
Tumbling down on the heads of the wicked.

I watched my enemies flee in terror
scorpion stings burning wrong
horse hooves kicking up dirt
truthfulness uncovering shame
honesty baring nakedness
the dung of the earth warring
lies sores causing agony
pestilence threatening
as grasshoppers devoured
my enemies food and good life!

It was fascinating to see
How weak those are...
.....so strong in lies!

Yes!
Honest!
Loving Truth is like that!
The freedom to be
true to yourself.
Both in
good and bad
in His love to be.

Oh the release of faith!
Heart rendering awe!
Shouts of glorious praise!
Jumping joy - pure ecstasy!
Glorying in God Almighty
my life's tormentors died
perishing one after the other.

Seeing Jesus on His White Horse
a blazing Sword
coming out of His mouth
His all conquering loving truth
my inner world of being to reap.
Casting dead in me
what is so good to have gone
raising alive that which I had lost
bringing New Life at each dawn.
His Kingdom ruling my world of being
His presence bringing Rest and Peace.

Time and again He comes past like this!
(Terrorising the wicked agonising their mates demise)
as all His Wheels turn into place
The Word alive in Heavenly Love
costly gifts descending from above
beholding The Temple of The Most High
The Truth of Love Himself my Zion.

 

[Alive_Again]

As you previously said...

...harbour untrue spirits within who rule us in and with sin.
...This causes us to be true abominations
...evildoers who dwell inside the hearts and minds of God's lost children
...oppressed, imprisoned and killed within sinners hearts
...God's own in the image of utter wickedness. (Rev 17)
...the person they inhabited and perverted - is set free and raised to life again by The Word when He comes back.

I'm sorry to say this Jeshu, truly... but these are the words of a defeated Christian in bondage to sin.

There are no devils in your heart. There can be strongholds in the mind. If you accept this, there already are.

You will always be accountable to the Word of God. I will too

My dear brother I despair your vision of understanding - how blind can one be?

You're turning a blind eye to many scriptures about accountability. I don't take pleasure in giving wakeup calls, but you're on course to sail through your life without judging your own fruit. It's your free choice, but I care enough for you to encourage you to open your eyes to the scriptures you're ignoring. They're written for our admonition. They're not to be ignored. You moan about them every time I mention anything that hints that you are called to be responsible for your actions.

I'm preaching a gospel of hope where you can actually be set free from the bondages that produce words like these from your heart.

You CAN be set free. God's expecting you to seek it out and not to "rest" on God not looking at your bad fruit. What you do in this world determines what you do in the hereafter. If you accept sin in your life, thinking you will be "saved" you ask God to violate His Word, which He cannot do.

His Word says that you will reap what you sow. I strongly encourage you to seek God about getting your deliverance. You will likely have to go somewhere where they minister it.

 

[godisreal36]

I remember that Thomas doubted and Peter denied Jesus. Moses murdered. King David murdered and committed adultery. Faith is my shield against hell. Jesus is lord and i depend on him because I'm not good enough to please god without him. Will he say he never knew me? I pray not.

 

[Jeshu]

As you previously said...



I'm sorry to say this Jeshu, truly... but these are the words of a defeated Christian in bondage to sin.

There are no devils in your heart. There can be strongholds in the mind. If you accept this, there already are.

You will always be accountable to the Word of God. I will too



You're turning a blind eye to many scriptures about accountability. I don't take pleasure in giving wakeup calls, but you're on course to sail through your life without judging your own fruit. It's your free choice, but I care enough for you to encourage you to open your eyes to the scriptures you're ignoring. They're written for our admonition. They're not to be ignored. You moan about them every time I mention anything that hints that you are called to be responsible for your actions.

I'm preaching a gospel of hope where you can actually be set free from the bondages that produce words like these from your heart.

You CAN be set free. God's expecting you to seek it out and not to "rest" on God not looking at your bad fruit. What you do in this world determines what you do in the hereafter. If you accept sin in your life, thinking you will be "saved" you ask God to violate His Word, which He cannot do.

His Word says that you will reap what you sow. I strongly encourage you to seek God about getting your deliverance. You will likely have to go somewhere where they minister it.

Be still and eat this!!!

Romans 8:1-17

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.
Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.




Boy are you obnoxious as a sinner eater bro!

What do you think I have been witnessing about then? Hasn't Jesus set you free through His loving truth? What are you trying to do? Make me crucify Christ twice?

Your words are raw on the wounds you have struck in my heart with your callous and judgemental thinking about my spiritual state of being that's for sure.

What kind of beam is obstructing your vision of things?

From the beginning of my interaction with you I have confessed that I have my life in Christ - and that He left these spiritual enemies dead and exposed laying behind on the killing fields of my life a long time ago - when He took me through Revelation 19 the first time. While it seems to me that you on the other hand are still mowing everyone down - even those confessing Jesus as Saviour and King in their lives - dragging your own brothers and sisters down from beside Christ - to use as your targets of debasement.

Shame on you boy

So give me a break mate and please come to your senses - I'm covered by the blood of Christ - so I don't need your theology pushed down my throat nor your way of dealing with things.:o


Romans 8:31-39

What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written: “For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Servant.DujmovJr]

Alive Again
Yes He did and does. He expects the ungodly to repent.Jesus said they will go to Hell if they do not repent and believe the good news. That includes those who have been born again. They have no excuse. They have been set free from the bondage of sin. Those not yet born into the kingdom are in bondage to sin. I'm not casting them into Hell. I'm giving you the Word. The Word is not intended to be bad news. It's only bad news to those who continue to sin. The good news is that if they seek the Lord while He may be found, He will save them.

There are many people in the world who do not know Christ; through no fault of their, they were born in a place that does not have christian churches, or any other church: Are they not God's children too?
Will God send them to hell because they did not repent and obey the Word?

Many people have the blessing of being born in a christian society; Yet, they not go to church. They may have great love and kindnesss towards their fellow man. Will God send them to hell too?

Alive Again
How so? The Kingdom of God is within when you repent and receive Jesus as your Lord. If this is not the description of a person before they die, they go to Hell. After death is judgment.

The world are the children of darkness. They have no fellowship now nor will they ever have fellowship with the children of light.

The word does not say the kingdom of God is within you "when you repent". It simply says the kingdom of God is within you, seek first the kindom of God and all these things will be added unto you. What does that mean; "the kingdom of God is within you"?
Do you believe in creation? Everything that was created was created through Christ. Every man and/or woman born into this world has the Light of life; the Light of Christ. The kingdom of God is within you.
Heaven......there are seven. Heaven has a kingdom. What is a kingdom? A kingdom is a city within a city. The kingdom is where the King lives.
Going to heaven, entering the kingdom and being saved are 3 different things.
We are all God's children. Christ died for the ungodly.
John 3:15 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life(period)".
Some people are simply too weak to be "perfect". Did not Christ say "when I was sick you did not comfort Me; when I was hungry and cold you did not feed Me or clothe Me; when I was in prison you did visit Me."
Does everyone in prison go to hell? They are sinners! Why did Christ speak of Himself as though He were one with people in prison?

The things that christians consider in terms of salvation are actually things that God requires to those who know the Word. To whom much is given, much is required. Be perfect, for I am perfect.
Not everyone has the knowledge or strength to be perfect. Will they all go to hell?
Where is the mercy? Pride is what got satan kicked out of heaven. Christians often consider themself better than the "sinner". But I tell you; the sinner, who knew he was a sinner and begged for forgiveness, went back to his house more justified.
Peace unto you
Steve

 

[Alive_Again]

...harbour untrue spirits within who rule us in and with sin.
...This causes us to be true abominations
...evildoers who dwell inside the hearts and minds of God's lost children
...oppressed, imprisoned and killed within sinners hearts
...God's own in the image of utter wickedness. (Rev 17)
...the person they inhabited and perverted - is set free and raised to life again by The Word when He comes back.

These are your words you used to describe some of your Christian experience. I don't bring them up to berate you in any way. I understand that people are dealt circumstances that sometimes make for a tough walk. I do want to point out that there is victory already won for you and that God intends for you to have total peace and joy.

...harbour untrue spirits within who rule us in and with sin.

God indwells your spirit when Jesus is your Lord. The enemy is defeated. Demonic spirits should not rule and reign within you. They do afflict the bodies and minds of believers as well as sinners. They must not be left to drop flies into the ointment of the believer. They should be discerned and ejected.

...This causes us to be true abominations

God wants to enable you to be a blessing wherever you go. He wants you to acknowledge Him as complete Lord of all of your fruit. The fruit you don't like, (like all of us) should be dealt with and we should be pressing in like our life depended on it to be restored to pure kingdom fruit. It's that way for all of us. This statement here does not glorify God. He want to set you free.

...evildoers who dwell inside the hearts and minds of God's lost children

He's certainly not in your heart because you and the Lord are one spirit. If you're upset because I tell you you need to deal with this, that is evidence of a stronghold in your mind that the enemy has built into you.

...What kind of beam is obstructing your vision of things?
...oppressed, imprisoned and killed within sinners hearts
...Boy are you obnoxious as a sinner eater bro!

I'm giving you the Word and the good news that God wants and has the ability to set you free. You have to be poor in spirit and seeking out the place where that can happen. I'm willing to hear you call me names as you have from the beginning. I forgive you and pray for you. I know what it's like to be in bondage. We're all still working through areas where we bear bad fruit sometimes. God's not through with us. If you pass it off though thinking that everything will be fine, and you're bearing bad fruit, you need to examine what the Word says about it, because it will apply to you no matter what you believe.

...the person they inhabited and perverted - is set free and raised to life again by The Word when He comes back.
Your words are raw on the wounds you have struck in my heart with your callous and judgemental thinking about my spiritual state of being that's for sure.

Would you want anyone messing with your kids? You have to believe that things can be different and not stay the same. The lie the enemy gives is that everything is all right when he's sucessfully doing his thing and that God can't change me into what the Word says about the believer - to be free indeed. It involves being in a militant church where the anointing of God is present and operating like a Book of Acts church. His power is in manifestation.

What do you think I have been witnessing about then? Hasn't Jesus set you free through His loving truth? What are you trying to do? Make me crucify Christ twice?

You're not crucifying Christ twice by pressing in and getting what He died to provide you. He always forgives you when you repent. He doesn't have to die again to do that. We must guard our hearts. We must fight the good fight of faith (the fight is not over). Faith must be of the heart. We must keep our garments. We must submit ourselves for renewal and bear good fruit. Myself included.

From the beginning of my interaction with you I have confessed that I have my life in Christ

I have no doubt of that. It's something you must maintain because there are enemies warring against our souls to bring us out of faith; to make our waters bitter; to take us from the place of love. We must extricate the enemy and meet him head on because it is a war. Jesus already won the battle, but it is in Him and we must fight to enforce it.

...While it seems to me that you on the other hand are still mowing everyone down - even those confessing Jesus as Saviour and King in their lives - dragging your own brothers and sisters down from beside Christ - to use as your targets of debasement.

I'm telling you you can be free from the fruit you described above. I'm telling you that we need to deal with it, because we're going to be judged based on our fruit. I'm bold enough to tell you, not to oppress you, but to give you the Word of truth. Not to deprive you of a place of hope and faith, but rather to awaken you to press into the victory and not to believe that the fight is over because scripture says otherwise. When we start bearing bad fruit, we're on thin ice. We cannot isolate ourselves from where the battle is taking place. Some churches where they leave you alone and everything is nice, and there is no accountability preached Jesus hates! I could give you a prophetic Word God gave about places like this and it is not the full gospel that leaves you in a comfort zone.

Shame on you boy

I bless you in Jesus' name.

So give me a break mate and please come to your senses - I'm covered by the blood of Christ - so I don't need your theology pushed down my throat nor your way of dealing with things.

You're only going to get the Word with me. The scripture you read cannot be dismissed. All of the verses you would cling to live comfortably with the ones I give you. They're all true and for our admonition.

I want to encourage you to seek your freedom and not accept the lie of the enemy that we are both goats and sheep. The goats hang around the shepherd, but they are not of Him. They don't do the works of the sheep. It's scary to think of the scripture because Jesus Himself said that He will require certain righteous works done through grace within us. You can't save yourself, so don't pull that one out again. It's Him living through us.

 

[Jeshu]

These are your words you used to describe some of your Christian experience. I don't bring them up to berate you in any way. I understand that people are dealt circumstances that sometimes make for a tough walk. I do want to point out that there is victory already won for you and that God intends for you to have total peace and joy.

God indwells your spirit when Jesus is your Lord. The enemy is defeated. Demonic spirits should not rule and reign within you. They do afflict the bodies and minds of believers as well as sinners. They must not be left to drop flies into the ointment of the believer. They should be discerned and ejected.

God wants to enable you to be a blessing wherever you go. He wants you to acknowledge Him as complete Lord of all of your fruit. The fruit you don't like, (like all of us) should be dealt with and we should be pressing in like our life depended on it to be restored to pure kingdom fruit. It's that way for all of us. This statement here does not glorify God. He want to set you free.
He's certainly not in your heart because you and the Lord are one spirit. If you're upset because I tell you you need to deal with this, that is evidence of a stronghold in your mind that the enemy has built into you.

I'm giving you the Word and the good news that God wants and has the ability to set you free. You have to be poor in spirit and seeking out the place where that can happen. I'm willing to hear you call me names as you have from the beginning. I forgive you and pray for you. I know what it's like to be in bondage. We're all still working through areas where we bear bad fruit sometimes. God's not through with us. If you pass it off though thinking that everything will be fine, and you're bearing bad fruit, you need to examine what the Word says about it, because it will apply to you no matter what you believe.

Would you want anyone messing with your kids? You have to believe that things can be different and not stay the same. The lie the enemy gives is that everything is all right when he's sucessfully doing his thing and that God can't change me into what the Word says about the believer - to be free indeed. It involves being in a militant church where the anointing of God is present and operating like a Book of Acts church. His power is in manifestation.
You're not crucifying Christ twice by pressing in and getting what He died to provide you. He always forgives you when you repent. He doesn't have to die again to do that. We must guard our hearts. We must fight the good fight of faith (the fight is not over). Faith must be of the heart. We must keep our garments. We must submit ourselves for renewal and bear good fruit. Myself included.

I have no doubt of that. It's something you must maintain because there are enemies warring against our souls to bring us out of faith; to make our waters bitter; to take us from the place of love. We must extricate the enemy and meet him head on because it is a war. Jesus already won the battle, but it is in Him and we must fight to enforce it.

I'm telling you you can be free from the fruit you described above. I'm telling you that we need to deal with it, because we're going to be judged based on our fruit. I'm bold enough to tell you, not to oppress you, but to give you the Word of truth. Not to deprive you of a place of hope and faith, but rather to awaken you to press into the victory and not to believe that the fight is over because scripture says otherwise. When we start bearing bad fruit, we're on thin ice. We cannot isolate ourselves from where the battle is taking place. Some churches where they leave you alone and everything is nice, and there is no accountability preached Jesus hates! I could give you a prophetic Word God gave about places like this and it is not the full gospel that leaves you in a comfort zone.


I bless you in Jesus' name.


You're only going to get the Word with me. The scripture you read cannot be dismissed. All of the verses you would cling to live comfortably with the ones I give you. They're all true and for our admonition.

I want to encourage you to seek your freedom and not accept the lie of the enemy that we are both goats and sheep. The goats hang around the shepherd, but they are not of Him. They don't do the works of the sheep. It's scary to think of the scripture because Jesus Himself said that He will require certain righteous works done through grace within us. You can't save yourself, so don't pull that one out again. It's Him living through us.

Psalm 94

The LORD is a God who avenges.
O God who avenges, shine forth.
Rise up, Judge of the earth;
pay back to the proud what they deserve.
How long, LORD, will the wicked,
how long will the wicked be jubilant? They pour out arrogant words;
all the evildoers are full of boasting.
They crush your people, LORD;
they oppress your inheritance.
They slay the widow and the foreigner;
they murder the fatherless.
They say, “The LORD does not see;
the God of Jacob takes no notice.”
Take notice, you senseless ones among the people;
you fools, when will you become wise?
Does he who fashioned the ear not hear?
Does he who formed the eye not see?
Does he who disciplines nations not punish?
Does he who teaches mankind lack knowledge?
The LORD knows all human plans;
he knows that they are futile.
Blessed is the one you discipline, LORD,
the one you teach from your law;
you grant them relief from days of trouble,
till a pit is dug for the wicked.
For the LORD will not reject his people;
he will never forsake his inheritance.
Judgment will again be founded on righteousness,
and all the upright in heart will follow it.
Who will rise up for me against the wicked?
Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?
Unless the LORD had given me help,
I would soon have dwelt in the silence of death.
When I said, “My foot is slipping,”
your unfailing love, LORD, supported me.
When anxiety was great within me,
your consolation brought me joy.
Can a corrupt throne be allied with you—
a throne that brings on misery by its decrees?
The wicked band together against the righteous
and condemn the innocent to death.
But the LORD has become my fortress,
and my God the rock in whom I take refuge.
He will repay them for their sins
and destroy them for their wickedness;
the LORD our God will destroy them.



My dear friend do you think you are free from these spiritual enemies - outside of The Spirit of Christ?

Do you really think that the fact that Christ has shown me those enenmies within my life - through His Loving Truth - would still make me prey to them? That I would expose those evildoers publically but still be mastered by them? That Christ would have lied to me?

Surely I have testified of my salvation in Christ - why don't you accept Christ kids but keep dragging them down with you?

The reason I mention them is because ALL of us meet these rulers of darkness in our hearts - you as well - but you are very blinded to them that's for sure - not seeing that beam at all.

As a matter of fact it is an anti-Christ spirit - called the false prophet - whom you are so keen on listening to.

And it is the numbering Beast you obey when you kill those chosen within you - because you heed the accuser of the brethren and don't accept by mere grace - but your own choice to save you.

Dear brother beware The False prophet always denies our salvation in Christ and says our sin will condemn us and we must do this or that to be saved - which is killing the chosen within us of course. (Daniel 11) Clearly he rules your daily life of self effort - his evil tongue ought to be no stranger to you my friend.

Thanks to God - I have been freed by Christ and daily Rest in His Salvation - despite my flesh and short-comings - I will NEVER fear my salvation again - and let Christ gather me daily as my physical life travels towards returning to dust - for Satan to chew on - while you my foolishly brother strive after your own kind of perfection and do what is right in your own eyes - you constantly deny the power of The Cross and give your own decision the glory - by putting Jesus in front of your theological go-kart so He can pull you along like a mule whipping - worse you demand we do the same - swallowing up the weak ones and the searching ones in Christ and denying them their eternal salvation like you do yourself because of their sin - as if Christ never paid a dime - let alone His Life to ransom us.

So sure dear brother, whom I have agonised all these months I've seen you at it - God bless you with the willingness to heed true and Holy Spirit - that He give you a forgiving gracious heart - and in His love over you, and us all, cut that by religion designed judgemental and self-righeous eye out of your spirit forever and set you free to be saved in Him and through Him - Amen!

In Jesus Name I ask that you belief Him and His Loving Truth and lot go of the spirit of error and unbelief pestering. (can you hear him going to town within - the ungodly within are always noisy don't you agree?)

Heb 13:5b-8

God has said,
“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”
So we say with confidence,
“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can mere mortals do to me?”



So honest bro I can't wait till you join us beside Christ and we can finally celebrate our eternal salvation in HIM - instead have you bothering us with your fatal errors for such does bring you a lot of shame in The End - you better believe it my friend and erring brother - repent and stop bothering and threatening our salvation in the spirit of error - I hate hearing that evil voice denying God's power to save on C.F

Jer 17:5-8

This is what the LORD says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the LORD.
That person will be like a bush in the wastelands;
they will not see prosperity when it comes.
They will dwell in the parched places of the desert,
in a salt land where no one lives.


“But blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD,
whose confidence is in him.
They will be like a tree planted by the water
that sends out its roots by the stream.
It does not fear when heat comes;
its leaves are always green.
It has no worries in a year of drought
and never fails to bear fruit.”

 

[Alive_Again]

Servant.DujmovJR

There are many people in the world who do not know Christ; through no fault of their, they were born in a place that does not have christian churches, or any other church: Are they not God's children too?
Will God send them to hell because they did not repent and obey the Word?

That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:12 (KJV)

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:14-16

I'm not their judge. I'm sure God has mercy on those who not having heard the Word and endeavor to walk before God with integrity, that He reveals Himself to them. Some right before their death.

The world are God's creatures. His children are the ones who are born again and are bearing the life of God within them

...Every man and/or woman born into this world has the Light of life; the Light of Christ. The kingdom of God is within you.
...We are all God's children. Christ died for the ungodly.

The world is in darkness. They literally are the children of darkness.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
1 Peter 2:9-10

Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:12-13

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:6-8

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Cor 6:14

Many people have the blessing of being born in a christian society; Yet, they not go to church. They may have great love and kindnesss towards their fellow man. Will God send them to hell too?

If you're walking in the Spirit, the Lord will eventually lead you into fellowship with His body. That's His Word and He can't violate it. I would guess where He sends them at death will depend on the condition of their heart before they die. I would not want to put myself in the position of not walking according to His Word if I knew His will in a matter. You would have to harden your heart to not hear the voice of God leading you into fellowship.

The word does not say the kingdom of God is within you "when you repent". It simply says the kingdom of God is within you, seek first the kindom of God and all these things will be added unto you. What does that mean; "the kingdom of God is within you"?

Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mark 1:14-15

After you do that, the Kingdom of God is within you. It's definitely not in the world.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:3

<Some people are simply too weak to be "perfect".

He wants us to walk before Him with a perfect heart. I think that just means that we obey the commandments He writes on our heart.

The things that christians consider in terms of salvation are actually things that God requires to those who know the Word. To whom much is given, much is required. Be perfect, for I am perfect.
Not everyone has the knowledge or strength to be perfect. Will they all go to hell?

We're responsible to walk in the light that we have. If He gives us a chance to learn His Word, He expects us to consult the instruction manual for righteousness. That's a desire He puts within us. What He asks you to do, He strengthens you to do. I can't say how to judge anyone, but we have His Word to instruct us.

Where is the mercy? Pride is what got satan kicked out of heaven. Christians often consider themself better than the "sinner". But I tell you; the sinner, who knew he was a sinner and begged for forgiveness, went back to his house more justified.

On my own, I'm no better than anyone. It's not my plan to send anyone to Hell. Although we don't understand fully how God can send someone to burn forever, His Word indicates that He does and will to those who don't know Him and are disobedient. That's where the wrath of God is, the children of disobedience. It's unpopular to say, but we need to hear it.