Judge who ordered deportation flights of Venezuelan gang members be returned faces calls for impeachment

[Postvieww]

Republicans are screaming "lawfare" because of law suits filed to stop Trump's evil policies but Republicans used it to fight Biden's policies in 21 and 22.

No previous President has the number of lawsuits against him that Trump has. It is the only dying gasp liberals have left. Trump will prevail in the end on appeal. Many non thinking liberals in Washington fail to see the fact that if legitimate executive power is stripped from Trump if they ever reclaim the Presidency they have shot themselves in the foot. It is law fare at its worst and is just covering for the waste, fraud and corrupt behavior of politicians in Washington.

 

[Yarddog]

False! Biden said give me the power but he already had it Trump has just proved that.

No, the president can’t completely close the border via executive order

VERIFY readers asked if Biden can close the border with an executive order. Presidents have restricted who comes into the U.S., but those orders can only go so far.

www.verifythis.com

As for the bill you claim would have fixed the border it allowed 5000 a day before anything could be done. That was not a fix ! Trump is already below that number.

No one said that it was a complete fix but it would have gone a long way in stemming the flow of the criminal element.

What Is the 'Bipartisan Border Bill' and How Would It Change the US Immigration System?

The “bipartisan border bill” has been front and center in the election, but it is often presented without clarity on what it would do.

immigrationimpact.com

Biden is the one who didn’t want the border fixed. 1 he stopped the wall. 2. He flew in people with little to no vetting. 3. He tied the hands of border control officers from doing their actual jobs ( they supported Trump). 4. He allowed murderes , rapists, drug dealers and human traffickers to enter and operate in the US. It is an absolute farcical joke for anyone to say Biden was for border security and was held back by Trump and Republicans. The facts just do not support that! Trump has done more in just a few days than Biden did in 4 years because he actually is working to fix the border and not just complaining he doesn’t have the power. The border was probably the number one issue the lost the election for Democrats and many still live in la la land on that issue. Oh yeah I left out all of the executive orders of Trumps that Biden trashed. Biden was a disaster!

https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/3857782-myth-vs-truth-dissecting-the-republican-narrative-about-the-border/

Fact-Check: 5 Immigration Claims Made by Republicans at the RNC

Newsweek is fact-checking some of the remarks made by speakers on the second day of the RNC.

www.newsweek.com

Fact-checking Abbott’s claims about ‘open border’ policies

In response to President Joe Biden's decision to lift a Trump-era policy that reduced the number of migrants entering th

www.politifact.com

 

[Yarddog]

No previous President has the number of lawsuits against him that Trump has.

No previous President has broken so many laws as Trump.

It is the only dying gasp liberals have left. Trump will prevail in the end on appeal.

He hasn't so far. Most appeals have been upheld.

Many non thinking liberals in Washington fail to see the fact that if legitimate executive power is stripped from Trump if they ever reclaim the Presidency they have shot themselves in the foot.

Trump is trying to use Executive Orders to enact laws. He doesn't have that authority. He swore to uphold the Constitution and US laws but he has failed. Americans have rights, immigrants have rights and when Trump tries to strip those rights it is resolved in the courts.

It is law fare at its worst and is just covering for the waste, fraud and corrupt behavior of politicians in Washington.

True waste and fraud needs to be eliminated but Trump and Musk are just eliminating what they think is waste. They have lied about much of their cuts, as well.

 

[Richard T]

Immigration judges can go rogue as activists too.

There should not be one.

Those who came here illegally should be deported. These judges ignored law when they came in.

The judges did not ignore the law. The police or ICE have to refer a case, it is not the judges duties to guard the border. When ICE and Federal prosecutors refer the cases, the judge rules. When someone is incarcerated, arrested or claims asylum, the judges also rule. Thus, the judge is certainly within their constitutional domain to request hearings before deportations. Yes, Trump use of the Alien Enemies Act, may or may not hold up. It is not up to Trump, it is not his final call, it is the courts that have to interpret that law for this specific use, which is novel by the way. Trump is well within his rights to invoke the law, but again the final interpretation is the courts responsibilities and ultimately, it may go to the U.S. Supreme Court. All powers of the President are interpreted by the courts. Many times the President has been wrong, long before Trump. The judges are a check on the system. Given it is only a few hundred prisoners so far, the reason Trump did not wait likely was that he wanted the theatrics. Many enjoyed seeing the illegals getting this treatment. Sadly though there were some that were not criminals or gang members. That is why the courts and lawyers are needed to make sure everything is done according to due process. In the Old West there was vigilante justice, the removal of non-citizens from US soil to alternative places is similar and such a removal requires the legal process that may or may not be within the power of the President in some or all cases.

 

[Valletta]

Somewhere, I'm sure but most are not.

There are a significant number. See the article below:

UNDERSIDE OF TRANS VISIBILITY DAY - Catholic League

Bill Donohue

www.catholicleague.org

 

[Yarddog]

There are a significant number. See the article below:

UNDERSIDE OF TRANS VISIBILITY DAY - Catholic League

Bill Donohue

www.catholicleague.org

The article doesn't say anything about how many radicals are out there.

 

[Postvieww]

True waste and fraud needs to be eliminated

True!

Trump and Musk are just eliminating what they think is waste. They have lied about much of their cuts, as well.

False!

 

[Yarddog]

False!

Nope. Musk admitted that much. If they would have taken the time, they wouldn't have fired people that they had to hire back. Some of the items had been cut a year or two back.

 

[BryanJohnMaloney]

These situations of hard left local prosecutors and judges grasping for control of the people and trying to run the nation need to be stopped. We should not tolerate such abuses of power.

Only a severe extremist of the hard right would call adhering to due process "hard left".

 

[ralliann]

The judges did not ignore the law.

Many did with Sanctuary cities.

The police or ICE have to refer a case, it is not the judges duties to guard the border.

That goes both ways...coming in or going out...

When ICE and Federal prosecutors refer the cases, the judge rules.

No cases for vetting were done when these people came in. that was simply an executive decision.
Now the Judge is deciding TO VET, the DECISION authority of the executive to get them out.... Activism...

When someone is incarcerated, arrested or claims asylum, the judges also rule.

I hope laws are clearly put in place for these activists. Any illegal entry, not coming to a port of entry, disqualifies themselves an asylum seeker.

Thus, the judge is certainly within their constitutional domain to request hearings before deportations. Yes, Trump use of the Alien Enemies Act, may or may not hold up. It is not up to Trump, it is not his final call, it is the courts that have to interpret that law for this specific use, which is novel by the way. Trump is well within his rights to invoke the law, but again the final interpretation is the courts responsibilities and ultimately, it may go to the U.S. Supreme Court. All powers of the President are interpreted by the courts. Many times the President has been wrong, long before Trump. The judges are a check on the system. Given it is only a few hundred prisoners so far, the reason Trump did not wait likely was that he wanted the theatrics. Many enjoyed seeing the illegals getting this treatment. Sadly though there were some that were not criminals or gang members. That is why the courts and lawyers are needed to make sure everything is done according to due process. In the Old West there was vigilante justice, the removal of non-citizens from US soil to alternative places is similar and such a removal requires the legal process that may or may not be within the power of the President in some or all cases.

These judges are outside of their jurisdiction of authority, of the executive branch.....And it has been done, over and over. The arrogance of the judges in Colorado, to attempt to decide for this nation who we could or could not vote for was shut down. This one will also when it comes before the supreme court. Perhaps even when the liberal judges these liberals SHOP FOR, are exhausted and the case is heard by HONEST JUDGES. whichever comes first....

 

[Yarddog]

Many did with Sanctuary cities.

Many communities did. That isn't judges.

That goes both ways...coming in or going out...

Judges have the duty to protect rights from endured by the Constitution or by other laws. It doesn't matter which way they are going. The Executive branch has the duty to enforce those laws.

No cases for vetting were done when these people came in. that was simply an executive decision.

Incorrect, those coming in are supposed to be vetted by immigration courts. When those courts are backlogged, immigrants need to be placed somewhere while awaiting their court date.

Trump made matters worse by killing the immigration bill,which would have added more judges and stream lined the process which would have cut the time to months instead of years. Trump has since cut immigration judges making things worse. He wanted to create a crisis so he could declare an emergency.

Now the Judge is deciding TO VET, the DECISION authority of the executive to get them out.... Activism...

Incorrect. He is applying Federal law as is his job to do so. Trump needs to obey the he law.

I hope laws are clearly put in place for these activists. Any illegal entry, not coming to a port of entry, disqualifies themselves an asylum seeker.

Federal law covers this.

These judges are outside of their jurisdiction of authority, of the executive branch.....And it has been done, over and over.

Not according to the US Constitution.

The arrogance of the judges in Colorado, to attempt to decide for this nation who we could or could not vote for was shut down. This one will also when it comes before the supreme court.

That is how the process works.

Perhaps even when the liberal judges these liberals SHOP FOR, are exhausted and the case is heard by HONEST JUDGES. whichever comes first....

So, you believe only conservative judges can be honest? Shouldn't politics be put aside and judges apply the rule of law?

 

[ralliann]

Many communities did. That isn't judges.

Judges have the duty to protect rights from endured by the Constitution or by other laws. It doesn't matter which way they are going. The Executive branch has the duty to enforce those laws.

Incorrect, those coming in are supposed to be vetted by immigration courts. When those courts are backlogged, immigrants need to be placed somewhere while awaiting their court date.

Trump made matters worse by killing the immigration bill,which would have added more judges and stream lined the process which would have cut the time to months instead of years. Trump has since cut immigration judges making things worse. He wanted to create a crisis so he could declare an emergency.

Incorrect. He is applying Federal law as is his job to do so. Trump needs to obey the he law.

Federal law covers this.

Not according to the US Constitution.


That is how the process works.


So, you believe only conservative judges can be honest? Shouldn't politics be put aside and judges apply the rule of law?

They came in illegally, not using a port of entry.

 

[Yarddog]

They came in illegally, not using a port of entry.

They are still covered under US Immigration laws.

 

[ralliann]

They are still covered under US Immigration laws.

They can, or should be deported....They shouldn't be covered.

 

[Yarddog]

They can, or should be deported....They shouldn't be covered.

It doesn't matter what you feel. We are a nation of laws. They should be followed until the Congress changes them.

 

[ralliann]

It doesn't matter what you feel. We are a nation of laws. They should be followed until the Congress changes them.

LOL, you didn't care when law was not enforced to open our borders. Don't you see the problem here? They can be deported, and they will when all this gets to a proper courtroom that will allow law to be enforced.

 

[Yarddog]

LOL, you didn't care when law was not enforced to open our borders.

We have never had open borders. Their are laws covering who can enter this country.It is illegal to enter the US or over stay your Visa. But, there are laws on how these people are to be handled.

Don't you see the problem here? They can be deported, and they will when all this gets to a proper courtroom that will allow law to be enforced.

Yes, they can be legally deported but Trump is not following the law.

 

[ralliann]

We have never had open borders.

Conversation done

 

[Yarddog]

Conversation done

Good, you've shown that you don't know the law

 

[Richard T]

Many did with Sanctuary cities.

Here is a definition of a sanctuary city. "A sanctuary city is generally defined as a municipality that limits or denies its cooperation with federal immigration enforcement to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation. This can include policies that prevent local law enforcement from inquiring about immigration status or complying with federal detention requests. While there is no official legal definition, the term typically refers to cities, counties, or states that adopt such policies. It was local politicians that made sanctuary cities. Federal involvement was thwarted. No Federal judge had anything to do with that. Federal judges execute the law as they feel fit. All are vetted and voted in by Congress. If they are out of bounds the Appeals Courts can overturn their decision. I think the judge was well within his rights to question the deportations. It is good that the Supreme Court too is settling the legal issue about the limits of a district judge. Both Trump and the judicial branch pushes the legal limits of their power. Thank God we have a system that over time can handle things and make peace on this and other issues.

That goes both ways...coming in or going out...

No cases for vetting were done when these people came in. that was simply an executive decision.
Now the Judge is deciding TO VET, the DECISION authority of the executive to get them out.... Activism...

I hope laws are clearly put in place for these activists. Any illegal entry, not coming to a port of entry, disqualifies themselves an asylum seeker.

These judges are outside of their jurisdiction of authority, of the executive branch.....And it has been done, over and over. The arrogance of the judges in Colorado, to attempt to decide for this nation who we could or could not vote for was shut down. This one will also when it comes before the supreme court. Perhaps even when the liberal judges these liberals SHOP FOR, are exhausted and the case is heard by HONEST JUDGES. whichever comes first....