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Judas was once saved and lost it...

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It is more like "slavery" and being bored to tears to sit under an exalted man called the pastor over others like a Lord over slaves. And to watch the dry dead religious show week after week. It might be more exciting to watch laundry go around n the laundry bin.

That is a judgement.
1. You have no idea if people are "bored to tears"; if they were, do you really think they'd keep coming back?
2. You have no idea if one of your Christian, born again, Spirit filled brothers considers themselves to be exalted, or if the congregation treat them that way.
3. You have no idea if a church service is a "dry, dead, religious show"; no idea how many people may be blessed, challenged, moved, filled again with the Spirit in such a service.
This does happen - I have seen, and experienced it. That probably causes a problem for you - to hear that God can, and does, work, sometimes mightily, in a service which you consider to be "against his order", but that's how it is. You might want to ask yourself why God would work in this way if he doesn't approve of what's going on.

I have seen meetings in homes after we shared the patterns and order of the church and the foundation of Christ was laid, where the brothers and sisters had wonderful meetings.

Great! It sounds lovely, and I mean that.
But just because some Christians may not know how to wait on God, or have the faith to do so, just because they may not like the kind of gathering you describe, it doesn't mean that you can judge them for being "out of God's order" and condemn the whole thing as being dead and dried up.

I have been to meetings where people appear to be speaking in tongues; there isn't always an interpretation though, so how do I know they're not just saying anything so that they appear to be part of the group and fitting in with everyone else? If someone gives a prophecy, how do I know that it has been, or will be, tested as Scripture says we should?

If these three girls were over men that could cause problems with God leading them.

It was a girl's school, but as God can speak through girls and women too, that's not an issue.

You speak of a gathering that was not in the Spirit and waiting and had other issues.

Another judgement - you have no idea whether it was or not.

The bottom line is that you believe that everyone who meets/worships in a way other than what you have described, is "outside of God's order; I don't.
You have described us as dead, dried up, religious and no doubt believe that we are also outside of God's will. I don't know how you explain that God is with us, blessing, filling and teaching us, but he is.

I sspeak of Gods truth and true church

ALL born again Christians are the church. That "bored to tears, dried up" person is your brother or sister, so is that pastor whom you judge is reading words from his own mind and what he, and other people, know about God.

I do not believe in this "God's order" that you keep talking about; I do not believe that anyone who does not worship the way you describe is misguided, wrong, outside of God's will, dried up or any of the other things that you have said. I do not believe the pastors are false, nor that writing a sermon down means that they aren't filled with, or inspired by, the Holy Spirit.
You obviously do believe these things.
There is nothing more to be said.
 
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You say that whether or not we make it or not as Christians is determined by who we obey. I don't agree with that due to saying that means you have to work for your salvation.

I just thought I would clarify what I was suggesting. I do believe in grace, technically a person is not saved by what they do. We are saved by the blood of Jesus, I can't work for my salvation, and so are you while you believe in Jesus. I am saved today. What I was suggesting is that as Christians we should be putting off the old life, not encouraging sin. Sin infact has a hardening effect on our hearts. If we rebelliously sin, and disregard God's commands it give Satan access to our lives, giving us spiritual blindness.

Heb 3:12-13 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
 
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