Joyce Meyer

[jiminpa]

So my guess is just that you enjoy her teaching. You have every right to send your money to one living so high off the hog. As for me, I'll invest my funds where I believe people are sincerely interested in doing ministry to serve God rather than their own bank accounts.

I like her teaching, but I don't criticize Charles Capps's family for the money they inherited from him, or Kenneth Hagin's either.

But let me ask this, why does no one criticize John MacArthur for his millions? R.C. Sproul,(or however he spells it)? They make millions from their non-profits, and sell millions of books, and they make their living precisely for their horrible anti-Biblical teachings, as Christian doctrine. Why is it not even a question? It's not that Joyce runs around flaunting her homes, it's that people go looking for the size of her home, rifling through her trash like the gossip columnists that they really are, but no one puts the real heretics under the microscope, why?

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

I like her teaching, but I don't criticize Charles Capps's family for the money they inherited from him, or Kenneth Hagin's either.

But let me ask this, why does no one criticize John MacArthur for his millions? R.C. Sproul,(or however he spells it)? They make millions from their non-profits, and sell millions of books, and they make their living precisely for their horrible anti-Biblical teachings, as Christian doctrine.

Hmm... you do realize this thread is, "Joyce Meyer."

 

[jiminpa]

Hmm... you do realize this thread is, "Joyce Meyer."

I do. But why can't there be a thread about Joyce Meyer that doesn't spiral into a discussion of how much of the money she earns that she spends on herself and those around her? Why is it more wrong for Joyce Meyer to earn money and buy things with some of it than teacher's whose bread and butter is preaching against what the Bible actually says while claiming to be the final authority on the Bible? Joyce doesn't likely make any more money than the real false teachers who we don't talk about, and she very likely gives far more of it away, but somehow it's wrong for her to benefit from her efforts than actual con-men in the pulpit.

 

[ICONO'CLAST]

Do you have access to the accounts of her ministry? Have you read the auditor's report? If you did read it, would you find anything in it that would suggest that the salary that she is receiving from the ministry is excessive? Or, does the accountant and the team of elders and advisers actually running the ministry believe that the salary that she is being paid is appropriate for a person in her position?

Do you know how many hours a week that she works? And do you know how much time she actually spends in any of her homes, or does she spend most of her working time in hotel rooms around the country and only gets to go home when she gets annual leave like everyone else?

Or are you just making your evaluations just by watching her on Youtube and reading stuff on google about her?

Do you mean like this oscar?

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[ICONO'CLAST]

or this?

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[Ttalkkugjil]

I do. But why can't there be a thread about Joyce Meyer that doesn't spiral into a discussion of how much of the money she earns that she spends on herself and those around her? Why is it more wrong for Joyce Meyer to earn money and buy things with some of it than teacher's whose bread and butter is preaching against what the Bible actually says while claiming to be the final authority on the Bible? Joyce doesn't likely make any more money than the real false teachers who we don't talk about, and she very likely gives far more of it away, but somehow it's wrong for her to benefit from her efforts than actual con-men in the pulpit.

There would be absolutely nothing wrong imho with her making a fair and decent wage for her work and using it to support people including her family. What she earns, however, is far beyond that and it does bring into question her motives. You may not like that, but it does.

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

Do you mean like this oscar?

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Yes, the humble life of Joyce Meyer.

 

[FireDragon76]

What sort of a salary would you be paying the pastor of your church if you were the treasurer?

Pastor gets $60,000 a year plus healthcare expenses for his family that we are mandated to pay. Every one of us actually votes on his salary, too. We would never put up with a pastor's salary being secret. One of the most pious people I know is meticulous with accounting and will criticize anything he deems as a misuse of money. And I think that's a right attitude, because ultimately the money is a gift to the Church, it's not something people owe to God, so people want to see responsible stewardship of the resources they have donated. And that attitude used to be very common among all Protestants.

 

[Romans 8]

Do you mean like this oscar?

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? I thought she only had two homes! She's not making 500k a year she's making millions per year and dumping it into assets.

 

[jiminpa]

There would be absolutely nothing wrong imho with her making a fair and decent wage for her work and using it to support people including her family. What she earns, however, is far beyond that and it does bring into question her motives. You may not like that, but it does.

She openly credits God for what she has, and has the ability to give. I get it, you have a problem with what God has given her, and I guess too what He has given her the ability to give away.

I have little, therefore I have little to give. See how it works. I rejoice that she has the resources to give, use, and enjoy. She wrote a lot of books, and put a lot of hours on the road for the payoff now.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with whether her teachings are good, so I am sorry I have given so much time to this.

 

[Romans 8]

or this?

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2. 
   Joyce Meyer Plastic Surgery Before and After Photos
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   Joyce Meyer is a popular Christian author and speaker. Joyce Meyer is a devoted Christian. Her talks are filled humor and full of jibes about herself. She earned her Doctoral degree from Life Christian University in Tampa, Florida. Joyce Meyer is very successful.
   
   
   
3. 
   Joyce Meyer Plastic Surgery Before After Photos - PSID
   www.plasticsurgeryid.com/joyce-meyer-plastic...
   Some people are surprised when they look at Joyce Meyer plastic surgery before and after photosuploaded on the internet and published in some health magazines. If they look at her latest appearance, they strongly believe that she has gone overboard with surgical procedures.
   
   
   
4. 
   Joyce Meyer Net Worth | TheRichest
   www.therichest.com/.../authors/joyce-meyer-net-worth
   The below financial data is gathered and compiled by TheRichest analysts team to give you a better understanding of Joyce Meyer Net Worth by breaking down the most relevant financial events such as yearly salaries, contracts, earn outs, endorsements, stock ownership and much more.
   
   
   
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How is her net worth only 8 million if her house is worth 20 million and her jet is 10 million plus the other stuff. Shouldn't she upwards of 50 million?

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

She openly credits God for what she has, and has the ability to give. I get it, you have a problem with what God has given her, and I guess too what He has given her the ability to give away.

I have little, therefore I have little to give. See how it works. I rejoice that she has the resources to give, use, and enjoy. She wrote a lot of books, and put a lot of hours on the road for the payoff now.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with whether her teachings are good, so I am sorry I have given so much time to this.

How do you know that God has given it to her? Is any and all wealth from God? Is it always from God because of what a person has done? These are questions worthy of consideration.

 

[FireDragon76]

She openly credits God for what she has, and has the ability to give.

God didn't give her the money, millions of ordinary people chose to give her that money. That statement alone introduces a great deal of spiritual confusion.

I get it, you have a problem with what God has given her, and I guess too what He has given her the ability to give away.

This is just a not so subtle attempt to try to bind peoples consciences. "You aren't criticizing Joyce Meyers... you are criticizing God". Wycliffe and Jan Hus faced similar objections centuries ago when they criticized the wealth of the Church.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

[/QUOTE]I don't make a living deceiving Christians, so I don't have the time or resources to scour every teaching she has ever done. Since I find her teaching edifying, even though I don't fully agree with every single word of it, I listen to some of what she is currently teaching and find the vast majority of it to be very scriptural. I can't say the same about your gossip sites, since I stopped listening to their half-truths and full-on lies years ago.[/QUOTE]

One weekend I spent around five hours viewing her ministry on Youtube. She preaches from a motivational stance for Christians to have a stronger faith and trust in God for every day life. She is not an evangelist. That is not her calling. She is more in line with the ministry of helps. After listening to her teaching with an open mind, I found nothing that is contrary to Scripture.

It is quite clear that she works under the oversight of a ministry team that is made up of several godly men. Someone once advised her to have her husband preacher so she can submit to him. He tried it and after a short while knew that preaching and teaching was not his calling, so he gave the authority for his wife to continue her ministry, and so she submitted to him in that and continued her ministry as before.

She is not a Derek Prince,

Let us feel sorry for her. Not only does she own several homes but she also must spend time staying in swanky hotel rooms.

I think I have answered this issue fairly.
Just reminding you that this is the Spirit-filled/Charismatic forum and that the majority of Charismatics here support Joyce Meyer's ministry and have no problem at all with her remuneration. In fact, what people earn for what they do is no one's business but their own and whom she gives permission for access to it. At least that is what the NZ Privacy Act states. I don't know what Privacy legislation you have in your area, but in New Zealand, bandying people's private income around the public area without permission could land a person in court in front of a judge!

So, I would say that the debate concerning Joyce Meyer's income and assets is over. It is her private business and it should stay that way.

 

[ICONO'CLAST]

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[ICONO'CLAST]

I don't make a living deceiving Christians, so I don't have the time or resources to scour every teaching she has ever done.

She is not a Derek Prince,

I think I have answered this issue fairly.
Just reminding you that this is the Spirit-filled/Charismatic forum and that the majority of Charismatics here support Joyce Meyer's ministry and have no problem at all with her remuneration. In fact, what people earn for what they do is no one's business but their own and whom she gives permission for access to it.
So, I would say that the debate concerning Joyce Meyer's income and assets is over. It is her private business and it should stay that way.[/QUOTE]
oscar
you live in another country and asked for proof. we are showing you the proof without comments so you can examine it.

 

[FireDragon76]

Yes, the humble life of Joyce Meyer.

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BTW, these are the very sorts of people that supported maintaining the clergy housing exemption in our US tax codes. I think secularist groups were right to criticize it, but unfortunately our courts are now stacked with people who think churches have as much right to pocket as much money as they can in the name of "freedom of religion".

 

[Ttalkkugjil]

I think I have answered this issue fairly.
Just reminding you that this is the Spirit-filled/Charismatic forum and that the majority of Charismatics here support Joyce Meyer's ministry and have no problem at all with her remuneration.

Really. Done a survey, have you?

In fact, what people earn for what they do is no one's business but their own and whom she gives permission for access to it. At least that is what the NZ Privacy Act states. I don't know what Privacy legislation you have in your area, but in New Zealand, bandying people's private income around the public area without permission could land a person in court in front of a judge!

So, I would say that the debate concerning Joyce Meyer's income and assets is over. It is her private business and it should stay that way.

Ms. Meyer is a public figure and estimations of her income and wealth are widely available on the Internet.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

BTW, these are the very sorts of people that supported maintaining the clergy housing exemption in our US tax codes. I think secularist groups were right to criticize it, but unfortunately our courts are now stacked with people who think churches have as much right to pocket as much money as they can in the name of "freedom of religion".

I got reported and reminded by the moderator about debating on the Lutheran forum, and I see that you are debating on this forum. Do you think that there is a bit of hypocrisy here (not for the moderators who are doing their excellent job), but it seems that me, being Spirit filled, gets reported for debating on your forum, but you seem to feel free to debate on this one!

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Well, I think that's about it folks. People have given their views. So I have requested that this thread be closed down. There is no point continuing it. It has run its course. Any of you non-Charismatics are free to continue the debate through a new thread on the Controversial Theology forum, and that might prevent you getting into trouble for debating on a protected forum like this.