JOyce Meyer

[tonya]

Have any of you ever heard of Joyce Meyer and if so what is your opinion about her? I watch her several nights a week and have read a few of her books..

 

[Dead Man Walking]

I love Joyce Meyer (she's an awsome speaker), but she is more of a motivational speaker than a preacher. I wouldn't want to hear here every single week.

 

[Suffolk Sean]

I really like her. I don't agree with everything, but if I agreed with everything everyone said, I would start to worry.

 

[Andry]

I'd sugggest you check the previous Joyce Meyer thread(s) before this one is rehashed and duplicated ad infinitum....again.

And check her website. God bless.

 

[BarbB]

I like her alot - and her books - especially the one about "my big mouth" which is still a problem for me!

 

[adamdavid]

Hers is one of the TBN shows that I really learn from... I think she has some great things to say... Granted, I don't always agree 100% with her, but that goes for most people... I have yet to meet anyone that I agree with 100%, so thats very much okay...

 

[favored_one]

I like her practical outlook on life.

 

[Anthony]

Saying Joyce Meyer has practical teachings is on the same level as saying she’s a nice person. It doesn’t matter. If you have a nice Jehovah’s Witness or nice New Ager, the value of their message is not established on a congenial disposition but on their core doctrinal beliefs.

If you find yourself not agreeing with her as so many don't, maybe it's time to check what she is preaching to the Bible

 

[Andrew]

You seem to be the odd one out Anthony.

Most here like her including me, and find nothing wrong with her teachings. She definitely a woman annointed by God to preach.

 

[n2wolves]

maybe we should do as scripture tells us whether we like Joyce or not.

1Co 14:35 And if they would learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home: for it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church.

 

[ShaunJ]

maybe we should do as scripture tells us whether we like Joyce or not.

1Co 14:35 And if they would learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home: for it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church.

Acts 2
17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

Galatians 3
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

[kimbot]

oh my goodness. don't tell me there are still people who believe that n2wolves!! I am not a feminist. I submit to and obey my husband and recognise some of my duties as a woman in Christs body. BUT

Do you think Paul meant that women were not to speak in church period??? obviously not, apart from the two scriptures quoted by ShaunJ, Paul himself has said women were to pray and phrophesy with their heads covered (1 Cor 11:5) - not to start another issue on hair length as he goes on to say that if this causes contention it is not importnat - that there is no doctrine of hair length in gods church.(1 Cor 11:16).

Point being. Paul as inspired by the Holy spirit would not contradict himself. There will be women prophets as ther always has been- (Mighty Deborah....). He is simply referring to order in the church as the entire chapter 14 is. Women used to sit together and chatter often having small children with them - this would obviously cause disruption. Also they must not barge in if they have a question- remembering that women in the New testement would not have recieved as much teaching as we do today.

And lastly wifes willa lways remain ultimately (and the greek word for women in vs34 is also translateable as wife) submissive to the Husband in these areas.

This is interesting though...

"Or did the word of God come originally from You? or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord." 1 Cor 14:36-37

This verse immediately follows the new paragraph on women/wifes keeping silent in church. Could it be that the Corinths sent these Doctrines in a letter to Paul? Corinthians 1 was written in response to reports and a message from a female church member to Paul that there were divisive factions and doctrines being established.... could paul be saying

" what? is the word of God just for men, did you write it??? do you think you are the only ones who can understand it???, what I write to you is what the Lord says on these matters NOt visa versa!"

It is interesting to note that some of the other issues in 1 Cor take on the same style... for example the hair thing . Paul says (Paraphrased)

" of course it is shameful for women to pray with their heads uncovered! so if it is uncovered it must be shaven. but no! to be shaven is also shamefull..."

and more...

" isnt long hair to a womans glory? of course becoause thats the way nature intended it so perhaps it isn't shameful to be covered....."

he finishes with...

"this should not be a divisive issue in the Body of Christ!!!!!!!!!"

hmmm that was a rant. just my musings.

Oh and Joyce Meyer is a true woman of God her teachings are biblically sound. Sometimes they require a bit of dicipline to follow.... maybe thats what gets peoples goats....

Yours in Christ

 

[kspchemist]

he finishes with...

"this should not be a divisive issue in the Body of Christ!!!!!!!!!"

You are telling me that Paul says that if y'all argue about what I said earlier then disregard what I said? That is a VERY illogical application of Paul says. That verse is actually the beginning of a new passage talking about contention within the church. Honestly do you think it is logical for something to be in scripture and if we argue about it then disregard it? What does the Bible say about scripture? II Timothy 3:16 'All scripture is given by inspiration of God, an is profitable for doctrine, for reproff, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:'
Back to my question would it be logical for the scripture to be instructing in anything and then say if you are going to argue about it then disregard it? Absolutely not!! God will not contradict himself!

 

[kimbot]

nice way to reply I'll watch you blush during judgement for that one!

But these are just my musings. Not teachings. what do you think he meant by that last verse

"But if anyone seems to be contentious we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God" 1 Cor 11: 16

it cannot be in reference to the next verse on the lords supper as he clearly starts a new topic... "In Giving you these instructions I do not praise you..."

And what do you think about this verse? that I put at the beginnig of the post with reference to the Vs on women and silence.?

"Or did the word of God come originally from You? or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord." 1 Cor 14:36-37

I also mean that arguments over detailed doctrines such as hairlength/ fashion are totally unimportant (such things belong to the Law from which we do not recieve salvation - that is not to say it is unimportant - Jesus came to fulfil the law)

The One TRUE message of the gospel is - GRACE and LOVE. Such doctrines as mentioned are unimportnat when they threaten to divide the Body of Christ

"Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has recievd him" Rom 14:1

" He who observes the day observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day , to the Lord does not observe it....For if we live, we live to the Lord and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore whether we live or die we are the Lords." Rom 14:6-8

"therfore let us not jusge one another anymore but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or cause to fall in our brothers way! Rom 14:13

" for the Kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy spirit." Rom 14 :17

"Do you have faith? have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves." Rom 14:23

And so many more.

 

[Suffolk Sean]

I never did like the sound of a mule braying.

Real nice. Great way to argue your point.

If you want to be taken seriously I suggest you drop that kind of comment and try looking at what your sig says.

 

[Theophilus7]

I never did like the sound of a mule braying.

That is a despicable remark.

Regardless of your own feelings about Joyce Meyer and her teachings, hateful ad hominems will score you no points in any attempt to dissuade others from listening to her and gleaning some of the many uplifting and practical insights she has gleaned from her walk with the Lord.

 

[Fools Hope]

My mom watches Joyce Meyer every night. She absolutely loves her and Joel Osteen, if you've ever heard of him.

 

[John 10:10]

Joyce is truly anointed in the ministry God has given Meyers. She gives credit to Dave as the one who helped her to where she is today. Dave is in charge of the minstry, and Joyce says she is only God's mouthpiece. No ego there that I can see.

One of her more profound statements is this:

"Your giftings will take you places where your character can't keep you."

Lack of Godly character has caused more men of God to fall than anything else. Maybe that's why Joyce keeps getting better and better. She has great character, and she's not a man.

Blessings

 

[kspchemist]

nice way to reply I'll watch you blush during judgement for that one!

Trust me I won't be blushing.

"But if anyone seems to be contentious we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God" 1 Cor 11: 16

According to your logic concerning this verse, I guess we cannot preach on sexuality at all. That is a VERY contentious subject. I guess we cannot talk about ANYTHING that would cause any sort of hurt feelings in the church. How foolish! I guess Jesus couldn't call the Pharasees 'serpents and vipers' because that is contentious. Especially according to
AGAIN READ THE BIBLE IN CONTEXT AND NOT ACCORDING TO YOUR OPINION! I have said why would Paul spend half a chapter talking about hair, and then say it's not important. If it wasn't important then Bible wouldn't spend more than 1 or 2 verses total on it. It would make more logical sense to for it to follow in the verses 17-19 NOT 1-15. I'll place those verses there to show you.
17 Now in this I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse.

That phrase especially makes it clear from the context that verse 16 was the beginning of a new paragraph.

The One TRUE message of the gospel is - GRACE and LOVE.

Please Romans 6:1-2a 'What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid.' Does the fact that we are under grace gives us a green light to sin. God forbid! Being under grace is a HIGHER standard than being under the law. Look at Hebrews 10:16 'This is the covanent that I will make with them after those days, saith the LORD; I will put my laws into thier hearts, and in thier minds will I write them.' When we are saved God puts the laws and commandments into thier mind and heart. Why is this verse in the Bible? To let us know that God has raised the standard, just like He did with Beltashazaar. Beltashazaar had the knowledge of what Nebuchadnezzar did, and the harm it caused because he did not listen to God. Likewise we have the knowledege of what people did in the Bible and thier follies, so we can learn from thier mistakes. Sin is part of the gospel message! After we have Bible God has rised the standard of what he requires. The law shows us our sin, through repentance we are pardoned from our sin! The doctrines Paul preached were again contentious. We cannot always preach love, love, love. We would not get anywhere. The Bible says we are to be separate from the world and not of the world. 'For what has darkness has to do with light?' Whether or not you realize it, God does require something more than just going to church on Sunday. It is a daily walk with the LORD.

 

[adamdavid]

Saying Joyce Meyer has practical teachings is on the same level as saying she’s a nice person. It doesn’t matter. If you have a nice Jehovah’s Witness or nice New Ager, the value of their message is not established on a congenial disposition but on their core doctrinal beliefs.

If you find yourself not agreeing with her as so many don't, maybe it's time to check what she is preaching to the Bible

I'm not sure if you were referring to me or not, but I'm gonna answer that one anyways... I don't always agree with everything she teaches, but I've never heard her teach anything that is definitely unbiblical. Just a different interpretation of the particular scripture than I would use... She is practical and bible-based, and minor disagreeances are absolutely no reason to disregard her teachings...
And to even imply an equaity with JW's or New Agers is, IMO, very wrong.