Joyce Meyer

[GodismyRefuge]

WOF or not?

 

[HumbleMan]

I don't know. When I see her on TV, she seems (to me) to preach kinda the same message as Joel Olsteen, not so much prosperity, but using religion as therapy to help you overcome.

I'm probably way off base because I don't go looking for her on TV, but that's my initial impression.

BTW, I think she is a gifted speaker and a someone seeking Christ's heart.

 

[Crispie]

Is she the one with the crazy hair and lots of makeup that is at these scheduled shows? Or is she the woman who is a great speaker, and speaks at Churches and Gatherings. Ive seen several women speakers on TBN, and heard of the name. Myabe if you could describe what she looks like?

 

[HumbleMan]

Is she the one with the crazy hair and lots of makeup that is at these scheduled shows? Or is she the woman who is a great speaker, and speaks at Churches and Gatherings. Ive seen several women speakers on TBN, and heard of the name. Myabe if you could describe what she looks like?

JOyce is a nice looking woman, probably in her fifties, with short hair, and a semi-southern accent. Like I said before, a real good speaker. I know who the other one is, but I can't recall her name. I usually see her on TBN when PTL is in need of "love donations".

 

[Crispie]

Oh yeah her! Yeah shes awesome. Very good speaker.

 

[Emma!]

WOF or not?

Why does it matter??

 

[Andrew]

Well she uses the Word, and mixes it with faith.

So yes, I'd say she's Word of Faith.

 

[songbird88]

WOF or not?

Everyone is word of Faith... they just have not figured it out yet. When they finally do, its like "Oh... I see it now!"

 

[kspchemist]

I don't know what she is. I personally don't like her at all.

 

[jangnim]

At the risk of upsetting someone, and this is not my intent, I think 'Joyce Meyer Ministries Inc.' pretty much screams what we should think of her. Put INC. behind any ministry name and it is no longer a ministry, but a money making concern.


I had a discussion in another forum on these TV preachers who go on and on about how God is blessing them with cash and jets and new clothes, and then they hit people up for cash at the end of their program. It really upsets me that so many get hooked on these folks.


We really need to be careful of who we trust, even if their teaching seems true. We need to beware of wolves among us.


My issue is, everything is money in these groups. They have rallies, and charge admission, they schlep their books on stage and in the book stores, and then they have the nerve to ask for even more money on their programs. And to make it seem more palitable, they quote scripture promises for prosperity. God doesn't bless you because you give to these ministries, He blesses you for doing His will, including giving to the places He tells you. Personally, I think we need to seek out the poor and homeless in our own neighborhood rather than giving to a "ministries inc." Just my opinion.

 

[tonya]

I personally like her and watch her...have some of her tapes and books!

 

[SOLDOUT4HIM]

I think she is a good teacher and truly loves Jesus. I am not sure of her denominational persuasion.

 

[Suffolk Sean]

At the risk of upsetting someone, and this is not my intent, I think 'Joyce Meyer Ministries Inc.' pretty much screams what we should think of her. Put INC. behind any ministry name and it is no longer a ministry, but a money making concern.


I had a discussion in another forum on these TV preachers who go on and on about how God is blessing them with cash and jets and new clothes, and then they hit people up for cash at the end of their program. It really upsets me that so many get hooked on these folks.


We really need to be careful of who we trust, even if their teaching seems true. We need to beware of wolves among us.


My issue is, everything is money in these groups. They have rallies, and charge admission, they schlep their books on stage and in the book stores, and then they have the nerve to ask for even more money on their programs. And to make it seem more palitable, they quote scripture promises for prosperity. God doesn't bless you because you give to these ministries, He blesses you for doing His will, including giving to the places He tells you. Personally, I think we need to seek out the poor and homeless in our own neighborhood rather than giving to a "ministries inc." Just my opinion.

Just because an organization is incorporated says nothing about it other than it's assests are it's own and they are seperated from that of it's officers.

I have been to many Joyce Meyer meetings and never once charged admission, most of what she does is preach, I don't recall books being hawked on stage for more that perhaps a minute (tapes maybe more) but 95% of the stage time is usually preaching or worship.

That being said, I have issues with ministries bearing the name of the servant.

 

[MrsGnomeCrusher]

God doesn't bless you because you give to these ministries, He blesses you for doing His will, including giving to the places He tells you.

Do you have scripture for this?

I believe, that if you believe you're tithing to these churches or ministires, and in your heart you believe it's to spread the gospel, I do not think God is going to hold that against you and not bless you because someone else takes your money, which you intended for "good" and uses it for "evil."

That saying, I believe one should research where the monies go when you do donate to these churhces and charities. You should give where you're led to give. I'm sure some of these churches and ministries do do some good and are not all bad as was portrayed by this post. I don't believe that all of these tv ministires are a bunch of blood-sucking, money grubbing people who are just in it for the cash in their back pockets. Some are. Some aren't.

As for the "Inc." and what not . . . I believe some of that may have to do with a "company's" non-profit status??

As for Joyce, I think she's a good speaker. I have read one of her books, which made me think on many things.

 

[Andry]

Just because an organization is incorporated says nothing about it other than it's assests are it's own and they are seperated from that of it's officers.

I have been to many Joyce Meyer meetings and never once charged admission, most of what she does is preach, I don't recall books being hawked on stage for more that perhaps a minute (tapes maybe more) but 95% of the stage time is usually preaching or worship.

That being said, I have issues with ministries bearing the name of the servant.

It's simply good business....or to spiritualize it, good stewardship. Incorporating has advantages and disadvantages, and it's probably prudent that ministries and/or non-profits do incorporate. As SS said, it's got little to do with trying to scam people - we could do that without incorporating!

I echo Sean's sentiment though...I don't have 'my' ministry, and will never have one bearing my name. But that's just my personal choice, and not a criticism for those who choose to use their names.

 

[songbird88]

At the risk of upsetting someone, and this is not my intent, I think 'Joyce Meyer Ministries Inc.' pretty much screams what we should think of her. Put INC. behind any ministry name and it is no longer a ministry, but a money making concern...

Any church, ministry, or charitable organization that wants to be recognized by the state HAS to be incorporated as a non-profit corporation. It is a good thing because it means they are somewhat monitored by the government in their activities.
Also, ministries cannot accept donations from individuals and tell them they can deduct that contribution from their taxes unless that ministry is incorporated as a non profit organization.

So "INC" is a good thing....

 

[FireFly316]

I have been watching Joyce Meyer for a number of years and I would describe her teaching as a practical every day living application of the Bible with a strong emphasis on faith. I really like her teaching and think she is honest and sincere in her message - it's not about money making and I have read a lot of her books and listened to a number of tapes. I understand her to be charismatic as she teaches about gifts of the spirit but I don't know if she is WOF.

 

[jangnim]

I suppose I was a little out of line in my first post for that I am sorry, I have some very strong feelings about some of these TV personalities.

Oddly everyone grabbed on to the Incorporation comment, which if it is not for profit I must apologize. I would ask those of you who responded to my previous post the question: Are you certain that these ministries are not for profit, not just Joyce but all of them? What troubles me is some of the ministries say or put on the screen that even if you donate to a specific cause for which they lead you to think they'll use your donation, they might not use the cash for that thing.

It seems to me that Incorporation is a protection method so as to keep assets apart from the officers as stated, yet it's not for profit status has a very specific meaning. It means they can't show a profit at the end of the tax year. Yes they must be incorporated to be permitted to allow those who give, to take the tax deduction, okay. Just my opinion, they also incorporate so they can draw salaries out of the ministry. This is the only legal way to channel non-profit money out without causing governmental red flags.

Regarding the question about giving to these ministries, I would say scripture is full of statements to tell us what our Lord sees as worthy giving. The old testament prophets had a lot to say to the Jews regarding how much they did for the poor and under priviledged. I won't even begin to go into that. But if we look at the Epistles, we see references to 'the offering' which Paul was transporting to various places from other places. They gave to the poor and needy. So no, I don't have a specific verse, but a general sense of what is said. But then again I am just crazy enough to think no preacher should be a "professional" paid minister, but do as Paul did. So I guess my issues go deeper than just these TV ministries too. And again I would emphasize, this is simply my unworthy opinion.

 

[Emma!]

If there were not Gods children on the TV, there would be something that is ungodly on TV in its place. I praise God that christians are stepping up and using some technology and actually using it to further His Kingdom. Praise God!! Regardless of what people may think of Joyce Meyer, she is a vessle that God is using to help many come to Christ and stay there!!

 

[NewSong]

WOF or not?

I am not sure what WOF is but I do know that I enjoy listening to her and she hasn't hurt my Christian walk with something twisted and demented. She has been a real encouragement and sometimes a kick in the backside to keep going.
I don't listen to her that often but for my birthday she sent me a tape that only God would know I would love. I used that tape to see me through some really dark moments of serious illness to encourage myself when I couldn't read his word because I was so desperately ill and that is what I lived on was that tape feeding me the word of God because there was no human in my picture to read it to me or even speak it. I know God uses her ministry. So WOF? Don't know!