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LDS Joseph Smith and the Astronomers

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That may be what you guys do, however, any true lover of God's word studies the original language if possible for they give a clue to what the true meaning is. And that is the bottom line of study---to know the truth, not our truth, not anyone's elses truth, but THE truth as God intended. It is His truth that is the only thing that matters, not being in agreement with anyone else.
 
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Ignored for lack of coherent point and random scripture postings.
 
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I suppose I will just have to agree with the Bible about proxy baptism.
Which means you disagree with mormonism. That is, if you actually understood what the Biblical position is on it. Which it appears you don't. Paul was asking a question to those who didn't believe in the resurrection. If these people didn't believe in a resurrection, then what is the purpose of them baptizing there dead if the dead will not be resurrected (according to their belief)? His point was it was a useless practice for them.

Notice Paul uses THEM, not a 'we' or 'us'. It was never a Biblical belief or practice (OT or NT). Outside of this one obscure and out of context line, there is absolutely no evidence of Jews, Christians, or the early Christian church believing in or practicing baptisms for the dead.
 
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If they didn't believe in the resurrection they would NOT be doing baptism for the dead. Baptism for the dead was being done by those who had the authority to do that work. Paul was a preacher, not a baptizer:

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 1:14 - 17)

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
 
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It is hard find a valid defense against Biblical scripture.
Vomiting scripture to see what sticks shows a lack of discussion maturity. The Bible tells me to not associate with such foolish people.
 
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You clearly do not understand the context of 1 Cor 15:29.
 
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That is just the point, your scripture reading is way faulty, for you do not read them according to God, the Jews language, Greek language or cultural practices of the day, you read them according to JS---and He had absolutely no knowledge of any of them! He wrote strictly from his own imagination and learning. And it is proof that what he says is not of God.
 
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So you say.
 
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I believe in the Bible, but not your interpretation and additions to it.

Ah, but you got that backwards. It is JS whose interpretations and additions are unbelievable! And since you consider his interpretations to be more accurate than even the bible itself---you have nothing but a false prophet to rely on. As even you guys admit---he had no knowledge of Hebrew nor Greek nor understood their culture either. Which is why he got sooooo many things totally wrong. Prime example being God created every living creature before it was born on earth. That concept --- among MANY others, is nowhere in the bible.
 
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I didn't say he baptized no one, but that was not what he was called to do. Paul was called to preach the gospel.


So what? Did I miss something? What is important about that? Different apostles and disciples were called for different things.
 
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Yes it is:

(Old Testament | Genesis 2:1)

1 THUS the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
 
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So what? Did I miss something? What is important about that? Different apostles and disciples were called for different things.
Yes and some were called to do baptism for the dead:

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:29)

29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
 
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