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Jonah 3 days

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This might be a silly girl question, but I'm curious. Did God intentionally select 3 days for Jonah to be inside the fish to represent Jesus' resurrection or was that just a coincidence?

If intentional why the OT 3 day representation?
Probably to represent Christ's resurrection. A lot of things in the Old Testament points us to Christ.
 
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This might be a silly girl question, but I'm curious. Did God intentionally select 3 days for Jonah to be inside the fish to represent Jesus' resurrection or was that just a coincidence?

If intentional why the OT 3 day representation?
I haven't a clue but love the part where Jonah stuck to his confession and maintained his identity in Christ by, acknowledging he was a hebrew and that he worshipped The Lord God Creator of the Heavens, seas and dry land. Whenever I am in a storm, do I carry on acknowledging That Christ is Lord or does my confession change to suit the situation at hand??:bow: I often ask myself the question.....
 
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This might be a silly girl question, but I'm curious. Did God intentionally select 3 days for Jonah to be inside the fish to represent Jesus' resurrection or was that just a coincidence?

If intentional why the OT 3 day representation?

I suppose there's no real way of knowing for certain, but there are any number of "coincidences" in the old testament that might point toward Christ. The story of Joseph who was clothed in many colors by his father then rejected by his brothers only to become powerful among the gentiles. The "mark" of Ezekiel 9:4 is actually a Hebrew tau, resembling a Christian cross. The conquering of Israel by Antiochus that took seven years, though in the middle of the seven years the temple being destroyed. Later the Roman conquest of Israel that took seven years with the temple being finally destroyed in the middle, 3.5 years, of the war.
 
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This might be a silly girl question, but I'm curious. Did God intentionally select 3 days for Jonah to be inside the fish to represent Jesus' resurrection or was that just a coincidence?

Technically the 3 days inside the fish represented the time Christ's body was dead. Coming out of the fish would be akin to Christ resurrecting and leaving the grave.

If intentional why the OT 3 day representation?

The number three in the bible signifies completion or perfection, and unity.
 
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Did God intentionally select 3 days for Jonah to be inside the fish to represent Jesus' resurrection or was that just a coincidence?

If intentional why the OT 3 day representation?

As someone else had pointed out regarding the OT types and shadows of Jesus:
Matthew 12:39-40
Jesus answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
 
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Decay starts to be noticed, but Jesus' body did not see decay.

Seeing as how Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life on the morning of the third day rather than the evening of the third day; then the time he spent in the tomb wasn't three full days and three full nights, i.e. 72 hours. It was more like 60.

I think it's reasonable to assume that Jesus' corpse experienced at least the beginnings of putrefaction before he was resurrected, but it was soon enough that his body wasn't entirely consumed.
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Seeing as how Jesus' crucified dead body was restored to life on the morning of the third day rather than the evening of the third day; then the time he spent in the tomb wasn't three full days and three full nights, i.e. 72 hours. It was more like 60.

I think it's reasonable to assume that Jesus' corpse experienced at least the beginnings of putrefaction before he was resurrected, but it was soon enough that his body wasn't entirely consumed.
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Actually what I was thinking was that Jesus was incorruptible, the spirits of death all left the graves to focus on Jesus below. So some newly dead Godly people came back to life as well.
 
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I was thinking was that Jesus was incorruptible

Jesus' body is no doubt incorruptible now, but it wasn't then. The Word of John 1:1-14 came into this world with a mortal human body no different than anybody else's mortal human body. In point of fact, it's fairly easy to prove that Jesus' body was made of the very same flesh and bones as Adam's.
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Jesus' body is no doubt incorruptible now, but it wasn't then. The Word of John 1:1-14 came into this world with a mortal human body no different than anybody else's mortal human body.

He didn't have a human father so that makes him unique. Adam and Eve also didn't have any human parents but they weren't literal children of the Father like Christ was.

In point of fact, it's fairly easy to prove that Jesus' body was made of the very same flesh and bones as Adam's.

Adam was made from the ground with no parents. That's much different than how Christ's body was created.
 
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Did God intentionally select 3 days for Jonah to be inside the fish to represent Jesus' resurrection or was that just a coincidence?

If intentional why the OT 3 day representation?

First of all, the Book of Jonah is not a literal history. It is an extended parable written to address a severe societal problem in Israel in the decades following the return from the Exile. The number 3 like the number 7 represents completeness. Gospel narratives, like many other Biblical passages were written in the Hebrew/Jewish literary style of Haggadic Midrash. The writers searched scripture for old concepts to incorporate into the new. It represented God continuing to work in the world. The literal historicity was not important, it was the meaning that mattered.
 
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I think Jesus' body was left alone by the spirit of death and that there was no decay by death. Jesus tasted death briefly. As Jesus died, death encroached on Him and left the tombs, resulting in people coming back to life and returning home.

Like Jonah, Jesus in death kept praising God and kept looking to the temple.
 
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Like Jonah, Jesus in death kept praising God and kept looking to the temple.

I think he showed a hatred for the temple. He would actually become the temple of new Jerusalem. Any other temple was disgusting.
 
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Adam and Eve also didn't have any human parents


In the beginning God made the first woman with already-existing human material taken from the first man's body (Gen 2:21-22) so that the woman became just as much Adam as Adam; she is not a discrete creature made independently of the man out of sand or dirt and rock. She was made with the flesh and bone of an already existing human being's flesh and bone (Gen 2:23, Gen 5:2). In effect then, Eve was Adam's first child.

The thing to note is that seeing as how Eve's flesh and bones were made with Adam's flesh and bones; then Eve's biological progeny, from first to last, are all born with Adam's flesh and bones too because there are no foreign flesh and bones in Adam's family: they're all his.

Acts 17:26 . . From one man God made every nation of men

So then, seeing as how Mary was biologically related to Eve, then Mary's body was composed of Adam's flesh and bones too just like all the rest of Eve's biological progeny. Ergo: any, and every, child produced by Mary's body is biologically related to Eve's body; and thus to Adam's.

One way to cut Jesus out of Adam's biological line would be to cut Mary's ovum out; but even then, there's David to consider.

Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" in that passage is sperma (sper'-mah) which is a bit ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny; for example:

Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

That seed is obviously spiritual progeny. But the seed in Rom 1:1-3 is biological progeny because David's seed is "according to the flesh" i.e. his physical human body.

Seeing as how David was Adam's biological progeny, the any, and every, child produced by David's seed would be a child of Adam's seed too. There's just no getting out of it because God created no other race of humans than Adam's.
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There's just no getting out of it because God created no other race of humans than Adam's.

At least no presently extant human race. There were several extinct human races before us. The last one, Flores man, went extinct just 13,000 YBP.
 
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At least no presently extant human race. There were several extinct human races before us. The last one, Flores man, went extinct just 13,000 YBP.


The Phylogenetic Tree Of Life is an interesting scientific diagram that traces all forms of life back to a singular genetic heritage regardless of species. In other words; if you started with a raccoon, and followed its branch down the tree far enough, you'd eventually intersect with another branch that you could then trace to mushrooms. The tree is sort of the equivalent of a Big Bang of living things.

The branch on that tree that interests me the most is the one that traces human life. According to the diagram; any two people you might select-- no matter what their age, race, or gender --if traced back far enough, can eventually be linked to a common ancestor; which of course is no surprise to Bible-believing Christians. I've no doubt your Flores man fits in there somewhere; and traced back far enough, will discover him related to Adam.
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