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John McCain pro/con

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Reasons why I won't vote for McCain:


  • I don't trust him to end torture of prisoners of war.
  • He won't get us universal health care.
  • He is anti-gay rights.
  • He is anti-abortion.
  • I don't see that he has a good plan to reduce gas prices.
These are some of the reasons why I will not be voting for McCain this year.

There are MANY more reasons for a rational person to vote for someone other than McCain, but those are good ones. The fact that he has no integrity left is the main one for me, i.e., in the last year and a half he has flip-flopped on nearly all the major political issues that most people care about.

McCain can't be trusted. He is a bitter old man out to get his and will do or say ANYTHING, apparently, for political ends. With his age-related lower level of testosterone he's basically the female equivalent of Hillary Clinton. ;)
 
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I just watched a speech by McCain in Louisiana. Given the fact that all politicians are liars, I agreed with the content of his speech. However, he is very wooden in his style. Obama is silky smooth in his oratory.

McCain is much better one on one in debates.

Should be interesting to follow this presidential race and see if words matter more than the delivery style or "charisma" of the speaker.

I knew Ronald Reagan and he's no Ronald Reagan. But Obama would be dreadful for this country as POTUS. Dear Lord I think we're "screwed" regardless. My consolation in all of this is God is sovereign and the times are developing exactly as He has planned.
 
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I just watched a speech by McCain in Louisiana. Given the fact that all politicians are liars, I agreed with the content of his speech. However, he is very wooden in his style. Obama is silky smooth in his oratory.

McCain is much better one on one in debates.

Should be interesting to follow this presidential race and see if words matter more than the delivery style or "charisma" of the speaker.

I saw his (McCain) speech as well. I have to admit, that I caught myself clapping two or three times. Old Fire Marshall Bob did pretty good tonight. I also flipped over to MSNBC and watched all the regulars talk openly about thier great party for nominating a AA. While at the same time they completely ignored what Ford had to say. Ford had actually made a few good comments about McCain's speech, but old panface Olberdame wasn't even dignifying his existance. Such a hyprocritical party. Glad it's not mine.
 
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McCain can't be trusted. He is a bitter old man out to get his and will do or say ANYTHING, apparently, for political ends. With his age-related lower level of testosterone he's basically the female equivalent of Hillary Clinton. ;)
You should put him on your ignore list.
 
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I can't condone the treason conducted by Juan McShamnesty against his own party (Republican) over the years.

However, B. Hussein Obama's Marxist/Socialist/Racist/Anti-American background is so offensive I'm compelled to vote for McCain this November.

Perhaps a real conservative will emerge for the 2012 elections. One can only hope. :thumbsup:
 
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I just watched a speech by McCain in Louisiana. Given the fact that all politicians are liars, I agreed with the content of his speech. However, he is very wooden in his style. Obama is silky smooth in his oratory.

McCain is much better one on one in debates.

Should be interesting to follow this presidential race and see if words matter more than the delivery style or "charisma" of the speaker.

I knew Ronald Reagan and he's no Ronald Reagan. But Obama would be dreadful for this country as POTUS. Dear Lord I think we're "screwed" regardless. My consolation in all of this is God is sovereign and the times are developing exactly as He has planned.
My wife and I were discussing this same topic last night. There's quite a few things that could be taken that way.

As to the speech, was it this one?
You will hear from my opponent's campaign in every speech, every interview, every press release that I'm running for President Bush's third term. You will hear every policy of the President described as the Bush-McCain policy. Why does Senator Obama believe it's so important to repeat that idea over and over again? Because he knows it's very difficult to get Americans to believe something they know is false. So he tries to drum it into your minds by constantly repeating it rather than debate honestly the very different directions he and I would take the country. But the American people didn't get to know me yesterday, as they are just getting to know Senator Obama. They know I have a long record of bipartisan problem solving. They've seen me put our country before any President -- before any party -- before any special interest -- before my own interest. They might think me an imperfect servant of our country, which I surely am. But I am her servant first, last and always. ....


I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq. I called for the change in strategy that is now, at last, succeeding where the previous strategy had failed miserably. I was criticized for doing so by Republicans. I was criticized by Democrats. I was criticized by the press. But I don't answer to them. I answer to you. And I would be ashamed to admit I knew what had to be done in Iraq to spare us from a defeat that would endanger us for years, but I kept quiet because it was too politically hard for me to do. No ambition is more important to me than the security of the country I have defended all my adult life.

Senator Obama opposed the new strategy, and, after promising not to, voted to deny funds to the soldiers who have done a brilliant and brave job of carrying it out. Yet in the last year we have seen the success of that plan as violence has fallen to a four year low; Sunni insurgents have joined us in the fight against al Qaeda; the Iraqi Army has taken the lead in places once lost to Sunni and Shia extremists; and the Iraqi Government has begun to make progress toward political reconciliation.
None of this progress would have happened had we not changed course over a year ago. And all of this progress would be lost if Senator Obama had his way and began to withdraw our forces from Iraq without concern for conditions on the ground and the advice of commanders in the field. Americans ought to be concerned about the judgment of a presidential candidate who says he's ready to talk, in person and without conditions, with tyrants from Havana to Pyongyang, but hasn't traveled to Iraq to meet with General Petraeus, and see for himself the progress he threatens to reverse.

 
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cute, except that's not always the case, such as when predatory lending practices lead to people losing their homes, and McCain is bought and paid for helping the interests of these companies AGAINST the interests of Americans who are losing their homes or their equity in those homes

Americans once knew how to make a budget.
 
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My wife and I were discussing this same topic last night. There's quite a few things that could be taken that way.

As to the speech, was it this one?
"You will hear from my opponent's campaign in every speech, every interview, every press release that I'm running for President Bush's third term. You will hear every policy of the President described as the Bush-McCain policy. Why does Senator Obama believe it's so important to repeat that idea over and over again? Because he knows it's very difficult to get Americans to believe something they know is false. So he tries to drum it into your minds by constantly repeating it rather than debate honestly the very different directions he and I would take the country. But the American people didn't get to know me yesterday, as they are just getting to know Senator Obama. They know I have a long record of bipartisan problem solving. They've seen me put our country before any President -- before any party -- before any special interest -- before my own interest. They might think me an imperfect servant of our country, which I surely am. But I am her servant first, last and always. ....


I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq. I called for the change in strategy that is now, at last, succeeding where the previous strategy had failed miserably. I was criticized for doing so by Republicans. I was criticized by Democrats. I was criticized by the press. But I don't answer to them. I answer to you. And I would be ashamed to admit I knew what had to be done in Iraq to spare us from a defeat that would endanger us for years, but I kept quiet because it was too politically hard for me to do. No ambition is more important to me than the security of the country I have defended all my adult life.

Senator Obama opposed the new strategy, and, after promising not to, voted to deny funds to the soldiers who have done a brilliant and brave job of carrying it out. Yet in the last year we have seen the success of that plan as violence has fallen to a four year low; Sunni insurgents have joined us in the fight against al Qaeda; the Iraqi Army has taken the lead in places once lost to Sunni and Shia extremists; and the Iraqi Government has begun to make progress toward political reconciliation.
None of this progress would have happened had we not changed course over a year ago. And all of this progress would be lost if Senator Obama had his way and began to withdraw our forces from Iraq without concern for conditions on the ground and the advice of commanders in the field. Americans ought to be concerned about the judgment of a presidential candidate who says he's ready to talk, in person and without conditions, with tyrants from Havana to Pyongyang, but hasn't traveled to Iraq to meet with General Petraeus, and see for himself the progress he threatens to reverse."

Yes. Excellent in every way. I only wish McCains speech delivery style was better. Thanks for posting it.
I'm looking forward to the debates. That should be very revealing. McCain is an excellent debator.
 
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The pro is he is the lesser of the 3 evils. Obama and Hiallry are worse.

The Con is he is illuminati too and there is no stopping them.

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McCain slams Obama’s Iran policy at AIPAC
"'Never again' a promise US and Israel will honor"

While presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama was finally wrapping up the Democratic nomination, Republican candidate Sen. John McCain challenged his rival's Iran policy in a speech at the annual AIPAC poilicy conference in Washington on Monday.

McCain was met with loud applause when he expressed his support of tough sanctions against Iran by making reference to the Holocaust. “When we join in saying ‘never again,’ this is not a wish, a request, or a plea to the enemies of Israel. It is a promise that the United States and Israel will honor, against any enemy who cares to test us,” said McCain.

The senator from Arizona disputed the idea that the US has not been able to reach understandings with Iran as a result of not having met with its leaders. “The idea that they now seek nuclear weapons because we refuse to engage in presidential-level talks is a serious misreading of history,” said McCain.

Obama is scheduled to address the AIPAC Policy Conference on Wednesday morning, after Tuesday’s final Democratic primaries in South Dakota and Montana. He has expressed willingness to meet with Iran’s leaders in the past without preconditions in an attempt to steer Iran away from its pursuit of nuclear capabilities, a position that McCain considers naïve.

The Obama campaign quickly shot back that, “McCain stubbornly insists on continuing a dangerous and failed foreign policy that has clearly made the United States and Israel less secure. He promises sanctions that the Bush administration has been unable to persuade the (UN) Security Council to deliver.”

McCain called for tough sanctions, particularly against the Central Bank of Iran, and supported restrictions on Iran’s import of refined petroleum goods. The former navy pilot also articulated his disapproval of Obama’s call to withdraw troops from Iraq and claimed that this would jeopardize the security of Israel and lead to civil war and genocide.

The Obama campaign responded that McCain “promises to continue a war in Iraq that has emboldened Iran and strengthened its hand.”

To view the McCain speech,
Watch live footage here

www.icej.org
 
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Yes. Excellent in every way. I only wish McCains speech delivery style was better. Thanks for posting it.
I'm looking forward to the debates. That should be very revealing. McCain is an excellent debator.
Keep in mind that we have elected many men who were not the best orators. I too look forward to the debate, although I still wish we could ask for a new hand.
 
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Mcain is a last gasp.
I'm voting on the issues, not on who has the best chance.
I'm a delegate for Ron Paul.

My friend I understand your dilemma. I'm sure you must know a vote for any other candidate than Obama or McCain is a wasted vote.
 
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My friend I understand your dilemma. I'm sure you must know a vote for any other candidate than Obama or McCain is a wasted vote.

If enough Republicans vote for Bob Barr that it will defeat McCain, then votes for another candidate will have served a very good purpose.
 
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My friend I understand your dilemma. I'm sure you must know a vote for any other candidate than Obama or McCain is a wasted vote.
Not voting at all or a vote for Obama or McCain is a wasted vote in my opinion.
I voted for myself in the last Pres. election, and I couldn't have done a worse job.
 
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Mcain is a last gasp.
I'm voting on the issues, not on who has the best chance.
I'm a delegate for Ron Paul.

Last gasp...hahaha your pic of smoking nuns ..hahah

FUNNNYYY

Anyway Everyone is voting for McCain because he is waaaaYYY the lessor of the evils to choose from.

Most Hillary foolwers are already loaded onto the McCain band wagon.

one word.

LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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...Into the abyss.

Hi Carey, good to see ya pal.
I'm back from 30 days in the hole for dis'n Rome.
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I noticed that no one has anything to say about John McCain. Make sense, Republicans are just about attacking Obama, they're not even looking to support their own candidate. I just wanted to comment in this thread because the cobwebs were starting to build up.

I guess my question really is, how many people are voting for McCain that don't support him?
 
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I'll say this about McCain: He is a proponent of the warfare/welfare state in directopposition to freedom. He will continue the failed policies of foreign intervention & entanglements that has us borrowing money from our enemies to overthrow tyrranical dictators we supported because we considered them to be lesser in evil than communism.
He seems oblivious to the core of the problem which is our having handed monetary policy over to an anonymous group of private international banksters.

President Woodrow Wilson after creating the Federal Reserve said:

"A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
~ Woodrow Wilson

From Wikipedia regarding Colonial Scrip, our country's first paper currency:
"The currency was born when a lack of gold and silver in the Colonies made trade hard to conduct, and a barter system prevailed. One by one, the Colonies began to issue their own paper money to serve as a medium of exchange to make trade vibrant. The Governments could then retire excess notes out of circulation by taxing the people, helping some Colonies generally avoid inflation. Each Colony had its own currency and some were better managed than others. It was banned by English Parliament in the Currency Act after Benjamin Franklin had explained the benefits of this currency to the British Board of Trade. Outlawing the circulating medium caused a depression in the Colonies, and Franklin and many others believed it to be the true cause of the American Revolution.
Follow the money.

BTW, I love that song "Summer Madness". Very Cool.:cool:
 
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