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John 6:66....coincidence or not?

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AngelusSax

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Since chapter and verse numbers were a later addition by guys wanting to sell more Bibles, all verse numbers are most likely coincidence.

And the author of the Gospel of John and the author of Revelation may not have been the same John, in all honesty.
 
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AngelusSax said:
Since chapter and verse numbers were a later addition by guys wanting to sell more Bibles, all verse numbers are most likely coincidence.

And the author of the Gospel of John and the author of Revelation may not have been the same John, in all honesty.

Correct. The NT chapter and verse divisions that we have today only originated during the 16th Century. There is nothing divine about them, so yes, the whole "John 6:66" thing is definitetly a coincedence.

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The_Unknown said:
John 6:66From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.

John was the one who wrote Revelation. Is John 6:66 a coincidence?
Unimportant, for the most part.

What is important is how the verse is indicative of virtually the entire church today (and those not so appearing, seeming so only because they have fashioned Jesus into something of their own imagination, it not being the true Jesus of the whole counsel of the Bible).

Truly sorrowed to say.

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Now do 6+6+6=18.
Now read the whole 18th Chapter of St. John.
Judas betrays Jesus.
Peter cuts the ear off the High Priest's servant.
Peter denied Christ three times.
Pilate rejects truth.
Jews reject Jesus.

The things that just make you go----hmmmmm!
 
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Palatka44 said:
Now do 6+6+6=18.
Now read the whole 18th Chapter of St. John.
Judas betrays Jesus.
Peter cuts the ear off the High Priest's servant.
Peter denied Christ three times.
Pilate rejects truth.
Jews reject Jesus.

The things that just make you go----hmmmmm!
hmmmmm
 
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Palatka44 said:
Now do 6+6+6=18.
Now read the whole 18th Chapter of St. John.
Judas betrays Jesus.
Peter cuts the ear off the High Priest's servant.
Peter denied Christ three times.
Pilate rejects truth.
Jews reject Jesus.

The things that just make you go----hmmmmm!

Funny stuff, Palatka.

Let's see here; Psalm 66:6 mentions feet passing through waters, a miracle, and fervent praise because of the miracle. The AntiChrist supposedly comes out of feet of Daniel's statue, the Beast of Rev. 13 rises out of the sea, the AntiChrist performs miracles, and he also demands fervent praise. Will wonders ever cease! ^_^
In Christ,

Acts6:5
 
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Palatka44 said:
Wait, There's more. Now read every 18th verse in every chapter of every book that John wrote. A few are not relevant but many are reflective of the Church's spiritual condition.

Oh, I thought you were actually joking around. My mistake. So do you really think there is a significance in the 18th verse in many of John's books, especially seeing as he was not the author of the chapter and verse divisions in his writings, things which were created almost 1500 years later?

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Some of them have to be handled in context of the subject. For instance,
John 6:16-21
16 And when even was now come, his disciples went down unto the sea,
17 And entered into a ship, and went over the sea toward Capernaum. And it was now dark, and Jesus was not come to them.
18 And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew.
19 So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid.
20 But he saith unto them, It is I; be not afraid.
21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went.
If we follow the other accounts of this event Jesus tells Peter, after He keeps him from drowning, "Oh ye of little faith". 666 is representive of the "Great falling away" from faith.
2 Thessalonians 2:3
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
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This I believe is why John associated this number with wisdom,
Revelation 13:18
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six
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This is indeed a "Coincidental" set up of the Holy Spirit to get us to dig deep and search for wisdom.
 
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Acts6:5 said:
Oh, I thought you were actually joking around. My mistake. So do you really think there is a significance in the 18th verse in many of John's books, especially seeing as he was not the author of the chapter and verse divisions in his writings, things which were created almost 1500 years later?

In Christ,

Acts6:5
Is it significate that verse "18" of the 13th chapter of Revelation would introduce that Number 666?
I think that Chapter and verse of the Books of John are there for easy study.
The Holy Spirit is guiding us to wisdom with these Chapters and verses.
 
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Look at verse 18 of the 14th Chapter of Revelation.
Revelations 14:18-20
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.


This is the verdict rendered to that "Man of sin" and his followers.
 
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Look at what John says here.
1 John 2:18&19
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Again verse 18 is significant to the Antichrist. Verse 19 relates these times of antichrists in relation to a great falling away.
 
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AngelusSax said:
Since chapter and verse numbers were a later addition by guys wanting to sell more Bibles, all verse numbers are most likely coincidence.

And the author of the Gospel of John and the author of Revelation may not have been the same John, in all honesty.
Well, Biblically speaking, John that apostle, the beloved wrote the Revelation. [bible]John 21:18-25[/bible]
 
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Wow... NIFTY! XD

This is quite an interesting study! I wonder if the numbers were put in there coincidentally? It is interesting to see what the number 666 actually represents. It definately looks less and less like a microchip in the hands and foreheads of every one by an evil tyrant world ruler. =P

Maybe we can find out more...

what does hands and foreheads represent in the Bible? Why would 666 go there?
 
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Look at what John says here.
1 John 2:18&19
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Again verse 18 is significant to the Antichrist. Verse 19 relates these times of antichrists in relation to a great falling away.

John is speaking of his own time here, not some time thousands of years in the future.
 
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