setst stated:
‘……the Qur'an teaches that Lord Jesus was……
the word of God made flesh.’ (My emphasis).,
@setst777
The Qur’an does
not support this dogma; nor does it teach (as you have claimed) that Yeshua was ‘the word of God made flesh.’
In the Qur’an, the divine decree – ‘Be’ (‘
kun’)! – creates Yeshua; brings into being – in the virgin womb of Mary – that which the Creator intended. The decree itself did not – and does not ever – become flesh.
Hi Niblo,
Thank you for taking time to reply to my post.
I agree that Islam does not teach that the word of God became flesh.
I agree that the Qur’an does not specifically state that Messiah is the Word of God in the flesh.
However, in all honesty and integrity, as I am clearly reading the Qur’an, here is what I learn:
Distinct from God calling into being (‘kun’) that which was conceived in Mary,
the Messiah himself, whom God called into being (‘kun’), is himself, called, 'Word of God.'
The Word of God is, by nature, eternal.
Qur'an 4:171 O people of the Book, be not excessive in your Faith, and do not say about Allah anything but the truth.
The MasīH ‘Īsā, the son of Maryam,
is only a Messenger of Allah,
and His Word that He had delivered to Maryam, and
a spirit from Him.
Qur'an 3:45 (Remember the time) when the angels said: “O Maryam, Allah gives you the good news of
a Word from Him whose name is MasīH ‘Īsā , the son of Maryam (the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary) a man of status in this world and in the Hereafter, and one of those who are near (to Allah)
So although Islam does not teach that the Word of God became flesh, and the Qur’an does not specifically state this, I do understand, from reading these verses that God called Messiah into being (‘kun), and this Messiah, whom God called into being in Mary’s womb, is called:
Word of God.
The reasonable and logical outcome, although not stated, is that:
Since the Messiah came in the flesh, and Messiah is the Word of God, then the Word of God became flesh.
Since the Word of God is eternal, then the origin of Messiah is eternal, being the Word of God,
although Messiah’s earthly physical nature is a humble man, that of a servant.
‘rūḥ’
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I don't believe that the Qur'an teaches anywhere that a person, other than Messiah, is the Spirit from God. Show me where ‘rūḥ’ is applied to any man other than Messiah.’
Y ‘Such is He who knows all that is unseen as well as what is seen, the Almighty, the Merciful, who gave everything its perfect form. He first created man from clay, then made his descendants from an extract of underrated fluid. Then He moulded him; He breathed from His Spirit (‘rūḥihi’) into him; He gave you hearing, sight, and minds. How seldom you are grateful! (Al-Sajda: 6-9).
I am familiar with the verse; however, that verse says that God breathed His spirit into him. The verse does not state that Adam is a spirit from God.
The Messiah is unique in that he was
- born of a virgin,
- sinless,
- the only Messiah,
- raised bodily alive to be with God,
- God’s Word
- spirit from God
- Messiah had status in this world
- Messiah has status in the Hereafter
Qur’an 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah,
and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and
a spirit from Him.
Qur'an 3:45 (Remember the time) when the angels said: “O Maryam, Allah gives you the good news of
a Word from Him whose name is MasīH ‘Īsā , the son of Maryam (the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary)
a man of status in
this world and
in the Hereafter, and one of those who are near (to Allah)
Qur’an 4:157-158
157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
158 Rather,
Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.
‘Say, “He is Allāh the One, Allāh the eternal. He begot no one nor was He begotten. No one is comparable to Him.”’ (Sūrah ‘Al-Ikhlas’; my emphasis).
I agree that neither the Qur’an, nor Islam in general, nor Christianity, claims that Messiah was not begotten in the way the Qur’an defines that “begotten,” which is: a physical relationship, as through intercourse, between God and Mary.
Niblo, this is my honest reply as I read the Qur'an.
Blessings