Jerk pastor

[RedDead1981]

This pastor's demeanor revealed that he had probably exhausted the private counseling that you refer to. Time to bring out the club.

His demeanor? That's a pretty big inference to make into details we have no access to.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

And that can be done without the ridicule during a worship service. I don't believe you have the correct grasp of church discipline, whether a worship service is structured or not.

I'm guessing the problems with these individuals led to the pastor being greatly troubled about those problems. Enough to bring them out in front of the whole congregation. Also based on his rather direct threat to leave and find another church his authority was subject to a church 'board' of some sort. Not what God had in mind for the authority structure of the church.

 

[wintermile]

This pastor's demeanor revealed that he had probably exhausted the private counseling that you refer to. Time to bring out the club.

His demeanor did not reveal that at all. Again, I point out the pastor stated the man to be wed was the real deal. Beatings are not of the kingdom of God, nor is your suggestion the man to be wed had it coming.

James C. Howell writes "To our humiliation, Christians have martyred other Christians who didn't believe the right things, who were born in the wrong region, who dared to right a listing ship."

I am set on the speech of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. "...The richness of the Wod of God ought to determine our prayer, not the poverty of our heart." "Nothing that we despise in the other man is entirely absent from ourselves...We must learn to regard people less in the light of what they do or omit to do, and more in the light of what they suffer."

 

[Supreme]

How do you know so much from such a short article?
Who is judging whom here?

The pastor is judging a member of his congregation. I mean, the nerve of someone to insult someone who comes to their church in front of everyone else. It just blows my mind.

 

[Jake Brake]

The pastor is judging a member of his congregation. I mean, the nerve of someone to insult someone who comes to their church in front of everyone else. It just blows my mind.

Check out the church before you complain about how those people walk in the Spirit is what I'm saying.
Any one who goes there knows what the standards are. And brother it sure looks like they tow a tight line and I respect them for that. Apparently not everyone goes to heaven, and not every one may like Immanuel (God is With Us) Baptist Church.

To me this Baptist church is a meat & potatoes church, not an sweet tea and skittles church like so many are these days.

Honestly, what type of Christian would rebuke this pastor or congregation after reading a short secular sponsored article? I would think that Christians would stand together and work out flaws in private, if any.

Welcome to Immanuel Baptist Church

Dr. Jim Standridge, Senior Pastor

Dr. Jim Standridge is not your ordinary, run-of-the-mill pastor. When it comes to preaching a gospel of change and higher living, we are not engaged in a run-of-the-mill relationship. Bro. Jim's style is Spirit-led, encouraging, and practical, engaging the believer in matters of the heart and barring no word in confronting the follower of Christ on issues of sin and iniquity. Bro. Jim toes the line, counsels with the Word of God, and has a heart for God and the church. Bill R. Bowman, Associate Pastor

Bro. Bill Bowman came to the Associate Pastorship from the life of a cowboy, bringing with him a unique perspective on the Word of God and a wealth of hard-imparted Godly wisdom. Where Bro. Jim is the prophetic preacher and counselor, Bro. Bill is a common-sense church administrator and the keeper of order. He specializes in counseling and sees and hears God in a powerful way in everyday life.

 

[Motor City Christian]

Translation: We are going to beat you over the head with legalism whenever we can. We would make the Pharisees blush if they were here. We see you when you're sinning; we know when you're awake.

It would be funny if it weren't true.

Yet, they forget "Judge not, lest ye be judged". I don't see anywhere saying that excludes pastors.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Check out the church before you complain about how those people walk in the Spirit is what I'm saying.
Any one who goes there knows what the standards are. And brother it sure looks like they tow a tight line and I respect them for that. Apparently not everyone goes to heaven, and not every one may like Immanuel (God is With Us) Baptist Church.

Legalism is not a good way to shepherd a church.

To me this Baptist church is a meat & potatoes church, not an sweet tea and skittles church like so many are these days.

It's a law-based church. You need equal parts law and equal parts gospel. What this pastor did is NOT part of the gospel.

Honestly, what type of Christian would rebuke this pastor or congregation after reading a short secular sponsored article? I would think that Christians would stand together and work out flaws in private, if any.

I would rebuke this pastor. The video is judged on its own merit.

Welcome to Immanuel Baptist Church

Which really proves nothing in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Jake Brake]

Legalism is not a good way to shepherd a church.

It's a law-based church. You need equal parts law and equal parts gospel. What this pastor did is NOT part of the gospel.

I would rebuke this pastor. The video is judged on its own merit.

Which really proves nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Ok, I see your point of view. But I agree with it and they have the right message, get right with God or get out.

I have no idea how you are using 'legalism' here when we know nothing about the church from video or short article. Nor see how anyone can rebuke any one from this edited video or short article. Maybe it's because they have Baptist in there church name that caused an inward bias to speak out, I don't know. There is a lot of that religious bias going around these days.

 

[wintermile]

@ Jake Brake

The pastor told someone he stated is the real deal to get right with YWHY or get out? Is the pastor telling the man to get out? You prefer those who have the drama targeted at them without knowing why get out.

The pastor did not study up on Genesis 14 or the Scriptures leading up to or after. Had he done so he would be grateful for the spiritual battle that took place. He would be thankful that Abram kept an eye on spiritually swaying Lot. That Abram entered into a spiritual, and extremely tactical, battle for Lot and brought him back.

No matter what demonination a pastor is, each may be subjected to temptation from satan the world or the flesh if prevention beforehand has not been exercised. Even if they exercise preventitve measures beforehand, I have been encouraged to pray for them in many ways that enable them to stand firm in faith.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The pastor is judging a member of his congregation. I mean, the nerve of someone to insult someone who comes to their church in front of everyone else. It just blows my mind.

Jesus (and Pastor Standridge) said, "It's my way or the highway." (Paraphrased of course.)

 

[Motor City Christian]

Jesus and a know it all pastor are not comparable.

 

[seashale76]

That's a church? That's not anything. Some people actually waste their time with something like that? If they do it has to be out of a misplaced sense of guilt. That's a rant that has nothing to do with anything. Where is the liturgy? Where's the Eucharist? Where is the gospel? If he had any issues with his parishioners then it could be addressed privately or even during confession. No, thank you. I needn't wonder where atheists come from- and can hardly fault them if this is what some are raised in.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Jesus (and Pastor Standridge) said, "It's my way or the highway." (Paraphrased of course.)

Only Jesus knew the true hearts of the people. And only Jesus' way is right.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

His demeanor? That's a pretty big inference to make into details we have no access to.

That's correct. We don't have any of the details. But I think it's prudent to give the pastor the benefit of any doubt. Private counseling would have given him very clear insight into the hearts of those he is lambasting in the video. It is also clear that something had taken place that offended him and his office as pastor rather seriously.

 

[Robban]

Pretty cool guy.

Wonder if it was from an internal meeting of the congregation.

 

[USCGrad90]

I have not watched the video yet, but I will. The one quote that gets me from the newssite is ""You're not worth 15 cents..."

In the eyes of God, we are all priceless. We are not perfect, but we are all valued enough by God that he gave his ONLY begotten Son. Not just for the pastors and saints, but for each one of us, no matter how low, how much we sin, or how much someone feels we are worth.

If the Pastor feels this way, then I hope he adheres to biblical principles and approaches it in private and follows up with his Deacons as needed. (Matthew 5:23-24) If he publicly condemns his congregation without having first approached it privately more than once, it is not a church I would want to attend.

 

[Jake Brake]

@ Jake Brake

The pastor told someone he stated is the real deal to get right with YWHY or get out? Is the pastor telling the man to get out? You prefer those who have the drama targeted at them without knowing why get out.

The pastor did not study up on Genesis 14 or the Scriptures leading up to or after. Had he done so he would be grateful for the spiritual battle that took place. He would be thankful that Abram kept an eye on spiritually swaying Lot. That Abram entered into a spiritual, and extremely tactical, battle for Lot and brought him back.

No matter what demonination a pastor is, each may be subjected to temptation from satan the world or the flesh if prevention beforehand has not been exercised. Even if they exercise preventitve measures beforehand, I have been encouraged to pray for them in many ways that enable them to stand firm in faith.

Just bet you and that pastor have different interpretations. You speak as if you know the guy, then you judge him, then you rebuke him. This is everything you didn't like about the pastor, and you are doing it.

 

[wintermile]

Just bet you and that pastor have different interpretations. You speak as if you know the guy, then you judge him, then you rebuke him. This is everything you didn't like about the pastor, and you are doing it.

By not addressing what I said or asked, which everyone is used to, you are neglecting to contribute.

Discernment is not judgement.

I am addressing how the pastor stated in the video that the man to be wed is the real deal after he targeted him. I asked you did the pastor say or intend for that man who he said is the real deal to get out. Either way what the pastor has done in the video does not make sense. If there was a private meeting and what was said offended the pastor, the pastor would not have send the man to be wed was the real deal.

I also brought up Genesis 14 to demonstrate how I expect others to value Scripture and authority. This pastor did not demonstrate his authority in the video.

A reminder about the importance of prayer for pastors (and their families) was on my mind too.

My actions involve discernment, compassion and a sincerity to block any activity that takes away from the glory of YWHY.

Now if you want to discuss it, please address why the pastor wants the man to be wed out even though he stated he is the real deal.

 

[Jake Brake]

By not addressing what I said or asked, which everyone is used to, you are neglecting to contribute.

Discernment is not judgement.

I am addressing how the pastor stated in the video that the man to be wed is the real deal after he targeted him. I asked you did the pastor say or intend for that man who he said is the real deal to get out. Either way what the pastor has done in the video does not make sense. If there was a private meeting and what was said offended the pastor, the pastor would not have send the man to be wed was the real deal.

I also brought up Genesis 14 to demonstrate how I expect others to value Scripture and authority. This pastor did not demonstrate his authority in the video.

A reminder about the importance of prayer for pastors (and their families) was on my mind too.

My actions involve discernment, compassion and a sincerity to block any activity that takes away from the glory of YWHY.

Now if you want to discuss it, please address why the pastor wants the man to be wed out even though he stated he is the real deal.

your entitled to your opinion and interpretation.