Jellyfish fossil imprints, turtles, giraffes,...

[Innerfire89]

Excellent. This is a concept that can be tested.

Now, what exactly do you consider a small apple? A bird? What do you consider a big apple? A brontosaurus?

Small apples.
Small animals, ocean creatures that would be washed up in the initial stages of the flood.
Large apples.
Larger animals, land animals. That would likely float when dead.

 

[GirdYourLoins]

I have met someone a few times who is a world renowned geneticist. He has given talks to meetings of the worlds top geneticists such is his reputation including being asked to be a speaker at a meeting of the top geneticists n the world. He is also a Christian and believer in a young earth and the flood. He always says there is no point in going into detail but can prove that evolution as currently taught is impossible and cannot be true.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I have met someone a few times who is a world renowned geneticist. He has given talks to meetings of the worlds top geneticists such is his reputation including being asked to be a speaker at a meeting of the top geneticists n the world. He is also a Christian and believer in a young earth and the flood. He always says there is no point in going into detail but can prove that evolution as currently taught is impossible and cannot be true.

Appeal to authority AND anecdotal. A twofer.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dqhall]

This is point out a few thing that make macro evolution and old earth look like nonsense.

Jellyfish fossil imprints.
Millions of years ago jellyfish washed up on shore, because the soil was so full of micro organisms it was gooey and preserved the imprints. I don't buy it! Jellyfish that a almost nothing to begin with, rot into nothing within a day at most if not just swept back into the ocean. They weigh nothing. And am I supposed to believe that if the earth exited millions of years ago, that anyone could know anything about what it was like? Try a world wide flood caused the jellies to be covered with mud.

Turtles, how did they evolve to have shells? Shells that protect them from predators? But hey, what's the rush, take a couple million years, you're only be hunted to extinction!

Giraffes.
They have a special flap in the arteries of thier neck to reduce the blood flow to their brains when they bend down. If they didn't, then they would die of a massive brain hemorrhage.

Living fossils.
Some are supposed to be tens of millions of years old, but haven't evolved into something else.

Dino egg fossils.
Found in the higher parts of the Grand canyon, the fossilized eggs just sat there all safe and cozy for millions? Billions of years?

Blood clotting.
Anyone use blood thinners, a slight touch and there's a new bruise, a small cut can't stop bleeding on it's own. Imagine if your blood didn't clot at all, you couldn't survive a day. But the ability for blood to clot took a long, long time to work itself out.

I won't even get into how the moon is moving away from the earth and the effects it would have caused trillions of years ago.

This thread is mostly satirical, but still truthful, look these things up for yourselves to see just how laughable secular science is.

Coal miners found fossil ferns while mining coal beneath the surface of the earth. One would have thought something so delicate could not have lasted over 100 million years. The plant perished, but its imprint was preserved.

Wikimedia Commons - Free Media Repository
File:Early Cretaceous Plant Fossils.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

 

[Jonathan Leo]

This is point out a few thing that make macro evolution and old earth look like nonsense.

Jellyfish fossil imprints.
Millions of years ago jellyfish washed up on shore, because the soil was so full of micro organisms it was gooey and preserved the imprints. I don't buy it! Jellyfish that a almost nothing to begin with, rot into nothing within a day at most if not just swept back into the ocean. They weigh nothing. And am I supposed to believe that if the earth exited millions of years ago, that anyone could know anything about what it was like? Try a world wide flood caused the jellies to be covered with mud.

Turtles, how did they evolve to have shells? Shells that protect them from predators? But hey, what's the rush, take a couple million years, you're only be hunted to extinction!

Giraffes.
They have a special flap in the arteries of thier neck to reduce the blood flow to their brains when they bend down. If they didn't, then they would die of a massive brain hemorrhage.

Living fossils.
Some are supposed to be tens of millions of years old, but haven't evolved into something else.

Dino egg fossils.
Found in the higher parts of the Grand canyon, the fossilized eggs just sat there all safe and cozy for millions? Billions of years?

Blood clotting.
Anyone use blood thinners, a slight touch and there's a new bruise, a small cut can't stop bleeding on it's own. Imagine if your blood didn't clot at all, you couldn't survive a day. But the ability for blood to clot took a long, long time to work itself out.

I won't even get into how the moon is moving away from the earth and the effects it would have caused trillions of years ago.

This thread is mostly satirical, but still truthful, look these things up for yourselves to see just how laughable secular science is.

Lol the earth is 6000 years at most. Exactly around the time God made it.
NASA Deny God = Big Bang
They try to hide God by saying life only exists because were in the goldy locks zone. Were not to far or to close to the sun.
They use stars and say their like our sun but are very far away

People believe this!!!!

If we look at our dna we realise that it is to complex to exist by chance

If you try and imagine if there was a Big Bang, that out of everything that happened, our planet was the only fortune 1 to harbor life

Over the last 6000 years, not one animal has evolved

Alligators are of dinosaur decent lol

Looking at all of this, we clearly see that life was not the result of a one chance event. It is highly orchestrated with precision. Someone made this happen and when you read the Bible, it’s clear it’s The Almighty Father God.

When I read in the Bible that the punishment for sin in woman is excruciating pain in child birth and then watch wildlife programmers and realise no other animal suffers that pain in child birth, it furthers my belief in God

Or when I watching stars all my life and realise their formation hasn’t changed in 35 years yet, we’re supposed to be hurtling through space at 1000s of miles an hour, furthers my belief that God has created a flat plain on the 4 pillars and we are within a dome. Asteroids will not take out mankind because God told us it will be Himself.

When I find that the worlds creators that supposedly came from asteroids that killed the dinosaurs look nothing more than the result of a big bomb detonation

The more I’m with God, The more deception becomes a reality

 

[Innerfire89]

Coal miners found fossil ferns while mining coal beneath the surface of the earth. One would have thought something so delicate could not have lasted over 100 million years. The plant perished, but its imprint was preserved.

Wikimedia Commons - Free Media Repository
File:Early Cretaceous Plant Fossils.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

See that's what gets me there, a hundred million years? Why would it even be possible to identity a fern from a hundred million years ago? It's can it be possible to know anything about anything a hundred million years ago? That's an extraordinary claim to accept as fact, one that takes faith in the scientists who make the claim.

 

[4x4toy]

This is real and not a cartoon chart on a wall .. Thousands of yrs per layer ? I think not

 

[4x4toy]

many different radiometric testing on new formed rock only a few years after formation

 

[Job 33:6]

Small apples.
Small animals, ocean creatures that would be washed up in the initial stages of the flood.
Large apples.
Larger animals, land animals. That would likely float when dead.

Did you know the largest terrestrial mammal to ever walk the earth is found in cenozoic layers? In fact there is no real order in the size of animals throughout the succession. Big animals are found in old rocks and new, small animals are found in old rocks and new.

 

[Job 33:6]

It's not there's no difference in the age of the layers, but the age that they're guesses to be by interpretative baisis.

So, you think that shallow layers may be older than deeper layers?

You think that the jurassic layers for example, may have been deposited before triassic layers?

One would simply have to ask, how it is that the jurassic layers came to be, if there were not already triassic layers underneath them.

Did the jurassic layers float in mid air while the triassic layers filled in beneath them?

No of course not. Obviously the triassic layers were there first, and are therefore, older.

 

[4x4toy]

I believe this guy

 

[gideon123]

OP

How would you feel, if you met someone who was criticizing Genesis in a sarcastic way. Then when you asked them, they admitted that they have never read Genesis.

My suggestion ... why dont you open a modern Biology textbook and find out what the Theory Of Evolution actually says? Most proponents of the young Earth theory have never even read the theory of evolution. They criticize a theory that they 'think' they understand, based on falsified opinions written by a minority of Christian writers. These ideas are vastly outdated, and are skewed to make the Theory Of Evolution appear ridiculous.

If you did take the time to read the whole theory, including the enormous amount of scientifoc evidence that now **supports** evolution, then you would be able to make an educated judgment about whether you agree.

The choice is up to you.

And in the same way, the choice for many scientists who criticize the Bible ... is to actually pick up the Bible and read it with their own eyes.

Blessings!!

 

[4x4toy]

The problem for me is I was an evolutionist and an Atheist who sucked life from Christians through my ridicule and supposed superior knowledge .. The science and 6 day creation now fit better than ever once I opened my eyes to judge fair .. And you're right , it is a choice that I made to look and weigh for myself ..

 

[Innerfire89]

OP

How would you feel, if you met someone who was criticizing Genesis in a sarcastic way. Then when you asked them, they admitted that they have never read Genesis.

My suggestion ... why dont you open a modern Biology textbook and find out what the Theory Of Evolution actually says? Most proponents of the young Earth theory have never even read the theory of evolution. They criticize a theory that they 'think' they understand, based on falsified opinions written by a minority of Christian writers. These ideas are vastly outdated, and are skewed to make the Theory Of Evolution appear ridiculous.

If you did take the time to read the whole theory, including the enormous amount of scientifoc evidence that now **supports** evolution, then you would be able to make an educated judgment about whether you agree.

The choice is up to you.

And in the same way, the choice for many scientists who criticize the Bible ... is to actually pick up the Bible and read it with their own eyes.

Blessings!!

Why do you assume I haven't studied?
It is a riddiculs theory and an assault to scripture cooked up by deniers of the God of the bible.

 

[Job 33:6]

Lol the earth is 6000 years at most. Exactly around the time God made it.
NASA Deny God = Big Bang
They try to hide God by saying life only exists because were in the goldy locks zone. Were not to far or to close to the sun.
They use stars and say their like our sun but are very far away

People believe this!!!!

If we look at our dna we realise that it is to complex to exist by chance

If you try and imagine if there was a Big Bang, that out of everything that happened, our planet was the only fortune 1 to harbor life

Over the last 6000 years, not one animal has evolved

Alligators are of dinosaur decent lol

Looking at all of this, we clearly see that life was not the result of a one chance event. It is highly orchestrated with precision. Someone made this happen and when you read the Bible, it’s clear it’s The Almighty Father God.

When I read in the Bible that the punishment for sin in woman is excruciating pain in child birth and then watch wildlife programmers and realise no other animal suffers that pain in child birth, it furthers my belief in God

Or when I watching stars all my life and realise their formation hasn’t changed in 35 years yet, we’re supposed to be hurtling through space at 1000s of miles an hour, furthers my belief that God has created a flat plain on the 4 pillars and we are within a dome. Asteroids will not take out mankind because God told us it will be Himself.

When I find that the worlds creators that supposedly came from asteroids that killed the dinosaurs look nothing more than the result of a big bomb detonation

The more I’m with God, The more deception becomes a reality

Well said Jonathan, well said. Good job.

 

[MyGivenNameIsKeith]

Which brings up another good point ^. If the planet were only 6000 years old, and evolution were not true, you would think there would be animals in the fossil record that are actually alive today. But, in reality there are not. There are no dinosaurs for example, not a single one. No burgess shale animals, no devonian tetrapodomorphs, no mammal/reptile hybrids, no proto whales, no turtles with half shells etc.

The animals of the fossil record are gone. And there is not a single example of anything in the fossil that lives today. Even crocodile ancestors were 3-4 times in size and length, shark ancestors like megalodon were like 50 feet long, they arent around either. No plesiosaurs, nothing. There is not a single fossil animal that continues to live today.

Which is bizarre if you believe the planet is only 6000 years old.

Coelacanth - Wikipedia
believed to have gone extinct 66 million years ago. Rediscovered in 1938. Go figure.

Ginkgo biloba - Wikipedia
Fossils date to 270 million years ago? Still trucking....

Metasequoia glyptostroboides - Wikipedia The dawn redwood
Fossils found no younger than 150 million years old, still going

Just naming a few....but there are more feel free to check out
Living fossil - Wikipedia

Someone needs to recalibrate the clocks they are using to date these things. I mean I would feel kind of worn out after several million years...seeing as how humans supposedly evolved and this was only thousands of years ago.... just saying.

 

[GirdYourLoins]

Can someone answer a question for me. I have read that current teaching on fossil formation says the animal or plant must die in a watery environment and soft mud and silt much be laid on top of it. My question is, how did the watery layers get laid on top of the dead animals if there was not a flood and how did we get fossils in mountains?

 

[4x4toy]

Well, lets tackle one topic at a time here.

Lets start with the first statement in your post.

"A lot to cover there. To think that a world wide flood couldn't leave behind fossils doesn't make much sense, there would be evidence left behind from the initial stages."

Dinosaurs are found in mesozoic rock layers. There are precambrian as well as paleozoic layers found below them, and cenozoic layers found above them.

As we know, there are dinosaur nests, with eggs in them. Some nests even have dinosaurs laying over their eggs, in the nest.

Now...Both paleozoic and cenozoic eras have metamorphosed rock present within them. So, what you have, in a physical sense, is a nest, with eggs, somehow un-obstructed, literally in the middle of the flood.

This is why it doesn't make sense for a nest or eggs or dinosaur tracks to be there. Because its in the middle of the flood, with metamorphic features both before and after it, as well as erosional features of highly dense rock.

If this is not enough there's plenty more being found all over ..

 

[GirdYourLoins]

Which brings up another good point ^. If the planet were only 6000 years old, and evolution were not true, you would think there would be animals in the fossil record that are actually alive today. But, in reality there are not. There are no dinosaurs for example, not a single one. No burgess shale animals, no devonian tetrapodomorphs, no mammal/reptile hybrids, no proto whales, no turtles with half shells etc.

The animals of the fossil record are gone. And there is not a single example of anything in the fossil that lives today. Even crocodile ancestors were 3-4 times in size and length, shark ancestors like megalodon were like 50 feet long, they arent around either. No plesiosaurs, nothing. There is not a single fossil animal that continues to live today.

Which is bizarre if you believe the planet is only 6000 years old.

If the earth is billions of years old why I have I not heard once heard of partially formed or developing fossils. It seems that we have fossils or otherwise preserved remains such as dried, frozen, etc. I do not recall once having seen evidence of a fossil being in the process of forming. If the old earth view on fossil formation was rue we would have evidence of modern animals starting to form fossils.

Please explain why fossils do not appear to be forming now.

And while you are at it, can you explain the Cambrian explosion and why there are no fossil records before that.

 

[Jonathan Leo]

Coelacanth - Wikipedia
believed to have gone extinct 66 million years ago. Rediscovered in 1938. Go figure.

Ginkgo biloba - Wikipedia
Fossils date to 270 million years ago? Still trucking....

Metasequoia glyptostroboides - Wikipedia The dawn redwood
Fossils found no younger than 150 million years old, still going

Just naming a few....but there are more feel free to check out
Living fossil - Wikipedia

Someone needs to recalibrate the clocks they are using to date these things. I mean I would feel kind of worn out after several million years...seeing as how humans supposedly evolved and this was only thousands of years ago.... just saying.

If evolution were true, then we humans should have change ever so slightly by now, but we haven’t.
If evolution is real, it has no cut off point. Are you saying that evolution has stopped at us?? The way I see it is like God says it, were still selfish beings with hardened hearts.
It’s also a bit of a coincidence that God said we have dominion over all animals and we do. If evolution is survival of the fittest of any given spiecies, why is it since mans recordings from 6000 years ago, not 1 animal has tried to take over mankind?
Answer: Evolution is a lie