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The leadership of the church has been in league with the Papacy officially since 1968 when she was accepted into the WCC. Just as their was gross apostacy in the days of Israels time with the leadership, we should not be surprised at it now.... however, like Stryder said, we are not to leave just as the Israelites were not to leave. There is no other option....
Stryder take a look at this and see what is going on in the SDA leadership and the strange symbols that is invading the temples.
jesusisfreedom.net/seventh-day-adventists-symbols.html]Seventh Day Adventist's Symbols - Digging for Truth[/url]
I´m trying to figure that out, no encouraging anyone to leave the SDA, but I wanna know in the mist of confusion the truth. Lucifer is very cleaver and persuasive, and all in this world belongs to him, we need to be pay attention to leadership on the SDA. They getting close to the Vatican it seems. And this can be good right?
its not that simple...
egw was wrong many a time, why not this time...?
Stryder take a look at this and see what is going on in the SDA leadership and the strange symbols that is invading the temples.
jesusisfreedom.net/seventh-day-adventists-symbols.html]Seventh Day Adventist's Symbols - Digging for Truth[/url]
I´m trying to figure that out, no encouraging anyone to leave the SDA, but I wanna know in the mist of confusion the truth. Lucifer is very cleaver and persuasive, and all in this world belongs to him, we need to be pay attention to leadership on the SDA. They getting close to the Vatican it seems. And this can be good right?
It is that simple. And wrong according to who? Thought you weren't talking about her any more?
dont worry ECR, the question whether to leave or not to leave is not yours to decide... maybe God wants you to remain in that church, or at least stay for now, maybe He wants you to leave and if so He will show it to you, no arguments from other people will change your opinion, only the Lord Himself can do that...
Well, maybe Jenaine Sautron is the way for God show the people have to leave the SDA. Remember, Miss White was accept at that time only by 20 % of the people. Miss Sautron only by 5%. Miss Sautron says we are at the end and we need to reform to be prepare to stand in front of God...stopping eating meet, coffe, milk because this food are contaminated...this is right according to the codex allimentarium that we have today...and worse if we see the codex monsanto, each is the regulation of all animals for humans consumption. Where's the prove that this new prophet is not a real one...and, each is the consequences in ignore this message that could be a real message of Jesus in our final days?
personally I dont believe in any prophet after the book of revelation... the bible must be sufficient for me...
Even though the Bible said there would be prophets in the last days?
Well, lets take that food for worm prophecy which I think everyone with a sane mind will agree on that it failed...
Not familiar with that one. Would you be so kind as to point out where I can read that? Anti-EGW sites excluded if you don't mind, they tend to ignore context at the expense of proving a point.
there you go Stryder, like so many times I highly doubt that it will have an impact on you...
many apologists come up with the excuse that this prophecy was indeed conditional, the condition was Jesus' return, which has happened yet, and so the rest of the prophecy couldnt be fulfilled either...yeah man!
"I was shown the company present at the Conference, Said the angel: "Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus." Ellen G. White, 1Testimonies, p. 131-132. May 27, 1856
I'm familiar with that quote, and I've had questions about it. But my question is why do you have a problem with the "conditional" response?
because it sounds foolish to me...
first of all I dont see a condition in that prophecy....
let me bring you closer to the problem...
lets talk business here
If I tell a client the following
"You will get your goods by the end of the month."
Do you see a condition there? - I dont think so...
Imagine the client didnt get the goods by the end of the month, he is furious and asks me about it, and I tell him that it was all conditional, he would have received the goods if they had been ready...
Now you see, I have failed, I didnt keep my end of the bargain, I broke the contract, and it is only natural that he didnt receive the goods because I have failed to produce them... implying such a condition? well,!
I think I would definitely lose that client...
Now can you show me the condition within that prophecy?
It is a wonder that some here who come as sda sound more like the devil's advocate than anything. Should we be surprised at that?
sky
Fair enough. But that's to you. This is a rather objective statement wouldn't you say? So who's right if you find it foolish and someone else doesn't?
It is a wonder that some here who come as sda sound more like the devil's advocate than anything. Should we be surprised at that?
sky
Scoffers to the left of me, sceptics to the right, here I am Lord stuck in the middle with you.
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