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[RestoreTheJoy]

Well, okay. So, for instance, YouTube prohibits videos of gun owners showing how to make legal modifications to guns. Is that a matter of censorship of ideas...or merely enforcing decorum.

Well, if the modifications are legal (have not researched this), then the video should remain. If illegal to do so, then the argument could be made that it cannot abet criminal behavior.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Umm...I think Dietrich Bonhoeffer would argue that statement should be heavily qualified.

Yeah, "true and right" might eventually prevail...after a great deal of sorrow and bloodshed.

And maybe not ever. In military intelligence, we used to say, "We have never discovered anything the Soviets have successfully hidden."

In the same way, we don't know what truth has been successfully suppressed.

Bonhoeffer certainly spoke out, much of which he was able to do abroad during the 30s. But the Nazis certainly "silenced" him for doing so, permanently in 1945, just one month before the war ended, sadly.

But we know the truth now. The Nazis were the ones perpetrating evil.

 

[RDKirk]

Bonhoeffer certainly spoke out, much of which he was able to do abroad during the 30s. But the Nazis certainly "silenced" him for doing so, permanently in 1945, just one month before the war ended, sadly.

But we know the truth now. The Nazis were the ones perpetrating evil.

As I said: Yeah, "true and right" might eventually prevail...after a great deal of sorrow and bloodshed.

How many voices speaking the truth did the Nazis silence that we have never heard? As I also said, we have never heard a truth that has been successfully suppressed.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

As I said: Yeah, "true and right" might eventually prevail...after a great deal of sorrow and bloodshed.

It's unfortunate. But so long as there is evil, control, and manipulation, some humans are going to speak out against it. Justice and Mercy both - not just one- are in our nature as human beings, as we are created in God's image.

 

[RDKirk]

It's unfortunate. But so long as there is evil, control, and manipulation, some humans are going to speak out against it. Justice and Mercy both - not just one- are in our nature as human beings, as we are created in God's image.

The Apostle Paul argues that justice and mercy are not in our human nature.

 

[Bradskii]

So which system would you replace capitalism with?

Wasn't there some old tongue-in-cheek joke about how "capitalism is the worst system, except for all of the other ones that have been tried"?

That was democracy.

And there is nothing to replace capitalism. It's been the only game in town since one guy swapped some berries for a couple of fish.

 

[RDKirk]

That was democracy.

And there is nothing to replace capitalism. It's been the only game in town since one guy swapped some berries for a couple of fish.

Well, more like when one guy sold his berries for some shells, bought some fish with one of the shells, and used the rest of the shells to buy a bigger berry basket.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

And there is nothing to replace capitalism. It's been the only game in town since one guy swapped some berries for a couple of fish.

If that's true, then that would mean social justice activists are wrong when they assert that capitalism is an outgrowth of white supremacy, yes? If it's based on human preferences and interactions that are as old as time itself, it predates any of the tribal bickering we're familiar with.

And there have been other system tried, they've just failed miserably.

The difference between capitalism and systems like communism/socialism is that capitalism is based natural laws that were discovered, as where the other two are based on laws that were created.

The biggest ones being, supply & demand and the dynamics between scarcity/value and effort/value. Those were things that people discovered. As to where Karl Marx's theories of communism were based on the products of his own mind and preferences, and Henri Saint-Simon's theories of socialism tried to underpin natural laws with a specific set of values that sometimes conflicted with natural laws and didn't account sufficiently for the human element.

 

[Pommer]

And there have been other system tried, they've just failed miserably.

When have we tried anything else besides “survival of the fittest”?

A managed economy is necessary even under capitalism, but it requires a light touch.
Unregulated “free-markets” will always tend to oscillate betwixt boom-and-bust.

 

[HARK!]

When have we tried anything else besides “survival of the fittest”?

What is Darwinism for 500?

Hey wait, isn't Marxism derived from Darwinism?

Maybe this is one reason why many who adopt Marxism make attacks on family values; as strong families tend to take care of their weaker members, especially in YHWH's family.

 

[Pommer]

What is Darwinism for 500?

He wait, isn't Marxism derived from Darwinism?

Maybe this is one reason why many who adopt Marxism make attacks on family values; as strong families tend to take care of their weaker members, especially in YHWH's family.

If religion ever became a burden to capitalism, capitalism would march boldly on leaving religion in the dust.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

When have we tried anything else besides “survival of the fittest”?

We haven't, but those other systems have been tried elsewhere...they tend to last however long it takes to deplete the resources gained under thier previously capitalistic systems.

A managed economy is necessary even under capitalism, but it requires a light touch.
Unregulated “free-markets” will always tend to oscillate betwixt boom-and-bust.

I don't think anarcho-capitalism is what anyone is advocating for here. (with the the exception of maybe a small handful of die-hard libertarians)

My original post mentioned that BLM touted wanting to "dismantle capitalism" and described it as an outgrowth of white supremacy.

Anytime someone says they want to dismantle capitalism (or defends that sentiment), I ask them what they'd like to try replacing it with.

 

[Pommer]

We haven't, but those other systems have been tried elsewhere...they tend to last however long it takes to deplete the resources gained under thier previously capitalistic systems.

I don't think anarcho-capitalism is what anyone is advocating for here. (with the the exception of maybe a small handful of die-hard libertarians)

My original post mentioned that BLM touted wanting to "dismantle capitalism" and described it as an outgrowth of white supremacy.

Anytime someone says they want to dismantle capitalism (or defends that sentiment), I ask them what they'd like to try replacing it with.

A social-democratic system would set a framework of “taking care of the people living under the system” would be a good start. Make sure that the lowest of the low are adequately provided for without provisions for “work-for-healthcare”; yes, there’ll be deadbeats. A functioning society can take care of them. If it doesn’t, what good is it?

 

[Bradskii]

Well, more like when one guy sold his berries for some shells, bought some fish with one of the shells, and used the rest of the shells to buy a bigger berry basket.

Currency helps facilitate the process. But it can operate quite well on a barter system. If you've got a lot of what others want, then you're going to end up with more of everything.

And interesting that you used shells as the form of currency. I thought to use them myself and it's a common phrase that we shell out X amount for goods and services.

 

[Bradskii]

If that's true, then that would mean social justice activists are wrong when they assert that capitalism is an outgrowth of white supremacy, yes? If it's based on human preferences and interactions that are as old as time itself, it predates any of the tribal bickering we're familiar with.

If one group has distinct financial advantages over another, then capitalism will only exacerbate those differences. But capitalism isn't a result of those differences. I've not heard anyone suggest that. And yeah, it's as old as exchanging berries for fish - and developing a currency to facilitate the process.

The difference between capitalism and systems like communism/socialism is that capitalism is based natural laws that were discovered, as where the other two are based on laws that were created.

I'd agree with that. Socialism is a great idea. Except for the fact of human nature. It's a very rare person indeed who says 'Well, I've got enough now. I don't need any more'.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

A social-democratic system would set a framework of “taking care of the people living under the system” would be a good start. Make sure that the lowest of the low are adequately provided for without provisions for “work-for-healthcare”; yes, there’ll be deadbeats. A functioning society can take care of them. If it doesn’t, what good is it?

I think the mistake people make is assuming "capitalism with a welfare state" is synonymous with "socialism"

The PM of Denmark had to clarify that in his speech at Harvard.

Actual socialism (while still better than communism...at least on paper, though the end results tend to be eerily similar) requires much more central planning on heavy handed control.

 

[Bradskii]

What is Darwinism for 500?

He wait, isn't Marxism derived from Darwinism?

I think it's the other way around. People cite Darwin in support of capitalism. They think 'fittest' means the strongest, whereas it means those best suited (fitted) to the environment.

Marx (and Engels) proposed that just as Darwinian evolution was the process whereby species come into being and change is the natural state of affairs, that capitalism is part of that process of constant change within history (as opposed to nature) and is not eternal. And that socialism is the next stage.

He wasn't suggesting that socialism was a result of the evolutionary process per se. But in the same manner as Darwin had overturned the idea that nature was immutable, so he was proposing that the seemingly fixed and natural political ideals weren't immutable but were also subject to a process of change. A change that would result in a system that was a better fit for society. And that socialism was the fittest political ideal.

 

[RDKirk]

Currency helps facilitate the process. But it can operate quite well on a barter system. If you've got a lot of what others want, then you're going to end up with more of everything.

And interesting that you used shells as the form of currency. I thought to use them myself and it's a common phrase that we shell out X amount for goods and services.

There were Polynesian islanders who did use shells. But, no, bartering doesn't work in the long run and over the long course of trade. That's why systems of currency were invented across so many cultures.

 

[HARK!]

He wasn't suggesting that socialism was a result of the evolutionary process per se. But in the same manner as Darwin had overturned the idea that nature was immutable, so he was proposing that the seemingly fixed and natural political ideals weren't immutable but were also subject to a process of change. A change that would result in a system that was a better fit for society. And that socialism was the fittest political ideal.

Is this the philosophy that Marxist Oligarchs rely on to justify killing off everyone who stands in the way of their better way?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

There were Polynesian islanders who did use shells. But, no, bartering doesn't work in the long run and over the long course of trade. That's why systems of currency were invented across so many cultures.

Correct...bartering tends to only work in small communities where there's a common idea of what's "valuable"

In a big country, there has to be some common form of currency that weighs out and represents value across a variety of regions and interests.

For instance, if you had a northern territory where pelts for warmth were a valuable commodity, those aren't going to be exactly appealing to a southern territory where it's hot outside most of the year.

Much like if you live in a dry dessert environment, fresh drinking water it going to be a hot commodity...not so much in an area that has a dozen fresh springs and streams within walking distance.