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Jan 6 Breach of the Capitol: Consequences & Repercussions III

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A minor consequence of Jan 6 is that has broken my brain

I simply don't get why Trump supporters don't imagine a "President" Maxine Waters doing similar things to Trump and realize a combination of a Child's tantrum and a political coup is totally unacceptable.

I have started having daydreams about Ron DeSantis giving a Victory speech for winning his 2nd term in November 2028 and it being clear that Trump no longer has control.
 
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FBI arrests Michigan gubernatorial candidate on charges related to involvement in January 6 riot

A GOP Michigan gubernatorial candidate, Ryan Kelley, was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor charges related to his involvement in the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021, according to the Justice Department.

Michigan GOP gubernatorial hopeful remains defiant ahead of court hearing related to January 6 charges | CNN Politics

Michigan Republican gubernatorial hopeful Ryan Kelley, a day before he was set to appear in federal court on charges related to his presence at the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot, continued to spread lies about the 2020 election and defended his appearance at the insurrection at a debate Wednesday night.
 
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U.S. prosecutors leveled new accusations Friday against the leader of the Oath Keepers and alleged members who have been charged with seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack, saying one co-conspirator came to Washington with explosives and detailing allegations that a co-defendant kept a “death list” with the name of a Georgia election official.

In a 28-page filing, prosecutors said a law enforcement search on Jan. 19, 2021, of the home of charged co-defendant Thomas Caldwell, a retired Navy intelligence officer from Berryville, Va., recovered a document that included the words “DEATH LIST” handwritten across the top with the name of a Georgia election official and a purported family member of the official. Both were targets of baseless accusations that they were involved in voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election, prosecutors said.

The prosecutor claimed that another Rhodes co-defendant, purported Florida “state lead” Kelly Meggs, had told a cooperating defendant who has pleaded guilty in a cooperation deal with the government that another Florida member of the group, Jeremy Brown, came to Washington with explosives in his recreational vehicle, which he left parked in College Park, Md.

The government last September allegedly seized weapons from Brown, including two illegal short-barreled firearms from his home in Tampa and military grenades from “the same RV that Brown used to travel to Washington, D.C. on Jan. 6,” the prosecutor asserted.

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Also keep in mind that these groups expected Trump to come to the Capitol and deputize them so they could shoot people nice and legal. Did Trump know that? Why did he want to go to the Capitol so badly? Stay tuned.
 
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Trump considers waiving claim of executive privilege for Steve Bannon

The letter would reiterate that Trump invoked executive privilege in September 2021, when Bannon was first subpoenaed by the House committee. But it would say that the former president is now willing to give up that claim — the validity of which has been disputed — if Bannon can reach an agreement on the terms of an appearance before the panel. The letter was described by three people familiar with it, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

Some advisers were seeking to talk Trump out of signing the letter.

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“Mr. Cipollone did appear voluntarily and answered a whole variety of questions,” said committee member Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.). “He did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses and I think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in the hearings to come. It was a grueling day for all involved. … But it was well worth it.”


Hutchinson testified that, on the morning of Jan. 6, Cipollone came forward with an urgent request, saying “something to the effect of: ‘Please make sure we don’t go up to the Capitol, Cassidy. Keep in touch with me. We’re going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen.’”
 
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I'm not sure but I believe if he is found guilty of participating in an insurrection he will be barred from running for office again
I hope he is barred. He scares me
 
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The prosecutor claimed that another Rhodes co-defendant, purported Florida “state lead” Kelly Meggs, had told a cooperating defendant who has pleaded guilty in a cooperation deal with the government that another Florida member of the group, Jeremy Brown, came to Washington with explosives in his recreational vehicle

It occurs to me that we still don't know (or at least I don't know) who planted the bombs at the DNC and RNC the night before.
 
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It occurs to me that we still don't know (or at least I don't know) who planted the bombs at the DNC and RNC the night before.

I raised this same question long ago, it seems. I hope that some FBI agent is beavering away at bits of evidence even now. We had our Gunpowder Plot in 1605, an act of treason. (Spoiler: it did not go well for the plotters; they were hunted down mercilessly, tortured into confession then hung, drawn and quartered - just saying.)

I notice that the posters who would claim that treason is the wrong term are conspicuously absent. Am I offering a hostage to fortune?
 
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In a letter seen by the AP news agency, the former president said he was "waiving executive privilege for you, which allows for you to go in and testify truthfully and fairly, as per the request of the unselect committee of political thugs and hacks".

[Graceful as ever]

Former Trump strategist Steve Bannon has told the House select committee investigating the 6 January Capitol riots that he is willing to testify, according to US media.
 
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Five takeaways from the Trump Jan. 6 documentary ‘Unprecedented’

“Unprecedented,” a three-part docuseries by British filmmaker Alex Holder, was released Sunday morning by Discovery+ and features new interviews with Trump and his children specifically about Jan. 6, and video from the president’s rally on the Ellipse just before his supporters stormed the Capitol. It provides greater definition to events already seared into the nation’s consciousness, showing viewers that Trump’s attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, for all the surreptitiousness of his allies’ “Stop the Steal” efforts, occurred in plain sight — and began long before the morning of Jan. 6.

#1 Trump unrepentant
#2 His kids wouldn't talk about Jan 6.
#3 The Trump faithful remain faithful: "The snapshots, sprinkled throughout the three episodes, serve as a reminder that no matter the revelations about the president’s effort to overturn the election and his actions during the violent Capitol insurrection, it may be all but impossible to crack Trump’s political base given the emotional investment of supporters"
#4 'Both sides' will find something to enjoy. "Had the events of Jan. 6, 2021, not transpired, the documentary might have turned out like a Trump production, given the wealth of praiseful commentary from the president’s children and scenes from rallies and events where Trump and his surrogates were warmly received."
#5 No bombshell, but Discovery+ should do well.
 
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Trump's attorney spoke to FBI, court filing says - CNNPolitics

The FBI interviewed Donald Trump's attorney two weeks ago, federal prosecutors disclosed in a new court filing on Monday, a previously unknown development that could significantly shape the Justice Department's sprawling investigation into the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

In his interview on June 29, the attorney, Justin Clark, contradicted former top Trump adviser Steve Bannon's claim that the former president invoked executive privilege over particular information or materials, which Bannon had cited as an excuse to avoid testifying before the House select committee investigating the insurrection.

According to prosecutors, Bannon's "attorney misrepresented to the Committee what the former President's counsel had told the Defendant's attorney."
 
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Judge Carl Nichols issued a series of rulings on motions preparing for the trial Monday that largely did not go Bannon’s way, including knocking out several potential defenses he had raised. After the judge concluded, Bannon lawyer David Schoen said in the courtroom, “What is the point of going to trial here if there are no defenses?”

Nichols agreed, suggesting Bannon’s team consider that.

Womp womp.

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On June 7, 2018, President Donald Trump announced his intent to nominate Nichols to serve as a United States district judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

[I'm not sure how many womps it woudl take to express this.]
 
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First Thing: Role of far-right groups to be examined by January 6 panel | US news | The Guardian

This is 21 November 2021. They are Proud Boys.

They are obviously a coordinated group; some would say they were threatening the peace.
 
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The Seventh Hearing of the January 6th Committee will begin at 1:00 PM EDT
The next Jan. 6 committee hearing will focus on extremist organizations
The House Jan. 6 committee holds its seventh hearing on its months-long investigation Tuesday, focusing on the involvement of extremist groups like the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and the QAnon movement and the groups' possible connection to Trump associates, including Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.

Former Oath Keepers spokesman Jason Van Tatenhove will testify. Van Tatenhove left the organization well before the Capitol insurrection and will appear as a live witness to give a historical perspective on the group.

The hearing will also look at a Dec. 19 tweet from former President Donald Trump that read: "Big protests in D.C. on January 6. Be there. Will be wild!" The tweet is viewed as "a pivotal moment that spurred a chain of events, including a pre-planning by the Proud Boys," according to a committee aide.
 
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Colorado Youth Pastor Charged in Connection with Capitol Riot After Former Bible College Classmate Tips Off FBI

“I’m probably going to lose my job as a pastor after this,” Ethridge later said in a video from inside the Capitol rotunda, his eyes still apparently suffering the effects of pepper spray. “But what is it going to take? … I think we’re to a point where talk is cheap. If this makes me lose my reputation, I don’t care.”

According to 9News, Ethridge was fired from his job as a youth pastor at a church in Florida less than two weeks later for his involvement in the Capitol riot.

[Per DOJ, he is charged "with civil disorder, a felony, and related misdemeanor offenses."
 
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From the Guardian this morning:

The House committee investigating the January 6 attack has accused Donald Trump of inciting the “American carnage” he once warned against when he summoned a mob to Washington in a last-gasp attempt to stay in power.


The session, the seventh in a series of public hearings to present the findings of the committee’s year-long investigation, concluded with a disclosure from the committee vice-chair, the Republican Liz Cheney.


Trump had attempted to contact a witness cooperating with the investigation, Cheney said, adding that the witness did not answer and the committee had alerted the justice department. “We will take any efforts to influence witness testimony very seriously,” Cheney said.


Meanwhile, a former spokesperson for the Oath Keepers militia, Jason Van Tatenhove, appeared at a Tuesday hearing in Washington alongside Stephen Ayres, a former Trump supporter from Ohio who participated in the attack.

  • What did the committee present in Tuesday? The evidence showed that Trump, increasingly desperate after the states confirmed Joe Biden’s victory in December, sought to seize a second term and began fixating on 6 January, when Congress would meet to certify the election results.
  • What did Van Tatenhove say? In powerful testimony, he said Americans needed to recognise that Trump attempted to mount “an armed revolution” in order to stay in power, adding that people died that day and a gallows was set up. “This could have been the spark that started a new civil war,” he said.

    First Thing: January 6 attack panel examines Trump’s ‘summoning a mob’ | US news | The Guardian

    Every session brings us a little closer to the inevitable conclusion that Trump was behind the January attack.

 
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First Thing: Role of far-right groups to be examined by January 6 panel | US news | The Guardian

This is 21 November 2021. They are Proud Boys.

They are obviously a coordinated group; some would say they were threatening the peace.

The caption in the Grauniad is wrong. The photograph is from 6 Jan 2021. It was circulating that evening or the next day. I think it is their pre-insurrection group photo, rather than after action. One way to tell is by their apparel. The orange caps are a dead giveaway to that date.
 
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