In some states, it's protected at the state level. At the federal level, it's not a law, but there may be some administrative regulations that have a similar effect.
a private sale is not a public businessThought experiment. Let’s say you have a rifle for sale. Someone calls you and asks if it’s good for target shooting. Of course, you say. It’s what you use it for.
Then he comes to buy it and says the targets he likes to shoot is pictures of little black girls. Do you still sell him the rifle?
and if the target of the gun buyer was not litle black girls but transexuals?I sure wouldn’t because it’s sick to knowingly support such evil.
It doesn't strike me as much of a leap to go from protecting gender as a class to protecting gender identity as a class. While I don't particularly care for predicting what various politicians or courts will or won't do, I wouldn't be surprised if the Biden administration pushed the issue in court (assuming it even comes up - I'm not familiar with what's cooking on this front). As far as the court goes, I wouldn't expect Thomas or Alito to vote in favor of trans rights, nor would I expect the libs to vote against them, but I wouldn't be surprised by much of anything from the rest.Right...and if push comes to shove, my guess is this administration backs down at the federal level or else the SCOTUS might strike it down.
As for states creating protected classes whole cloth....what exactly is the ruling on that? Wouldn't it defy equal treatment under the law?
would it be forced speech or forced artistic expression if the couple were African American?That's the crux of this particular case. The person was attempting to purchase essentially an off-the-shelf article. This is distinct from the earlier case in that there was no implication of "forced speech" -- i.e., forced artistic expression--involved.
This would be like the difference between a wedding photographer and a passport photographer in being required to service a homosexual couple. I personally could consider it "forced speech" -- I.e. forced artistic expression--in the case of the wedding photographer, but not in the case of the passport photographer.
still doesn't make discrimination OKWell by telling the baker the meaning, the ambiguous decoration is no longer ambiguous. Meaning was established.
I agree with the assessment prior to telling the baker the meaning....he wouldn't have objected. One doesn't reasonably infer meaning from the decoration alone.
Once the meaning was explicitly stated
....it's not something that one needs to infer.
Some are good. Health and well-being of children is important. The other two things are up for debate.Correct, they can't employ children or warm frozen burger patties in their armpits or discriminate against certain classes of people. There's all sorts of things We The People have decided they can't do.
That’s one way to avoid the question.If the moon were made of green cheese would the space rats be fat?
I'm sure you will be disappointed to find out that yes they are a protected class under title VIIIs transgender a legally protected class?
As far as I know, Joe just changed the wording on the enforcement. No law was passed was it?
Apparently you don’t understand what a thought experiment is.I would not own a rifle or sell one to a stranger. Your hypotheticals are bad.
Jack Phillips, on the other hand, actually does make birthday cakes, pink cakes and blue icing.
I don’t support discrimination. If there was a restaurant in town that didn’t serve blacks, I wouldn’t frequent that establishment. And hopefully enough other people would do the same, and the business would close.Well that is not entirely true, you refused to support the bar owner that sees fit to sell alcohol to minors.
Again why do you support discriminatoin?
if you own a business that is open to the public then it has to be open to all of the public even people you don't happen to like
Still no. But it looks like some are okay with it.and if the target of the gun buyer was not litle black girls but transexuals?
any legitimate refernces to back this up?Not true.
We just watched 4 years if Trump supporters getting denied service and kicked out of restaurants.
As far as I can tell....discrimination against sex was prohibited, from there it added "gender identity" and "sexual orientation". The latter term is pretty clear even if certain claims about it aren't.It doesn't strike me as much of a leap to go from protecting gender as a class to protecting gender identity as a class.
While I don't particularly care for predicting what various politicians or courts will or won't do, I wouldn't be surprised if the Biden administration pushed the issue in court (assuming it even comes up - I'm not familiar with what's cooking on this front).
I don't think it would make it to the SCOTUS. Just imagine trying to define gender identity to the court in a way that creates a distinct category that has the same immutable characteristics of other protected classes.As far as the court goes, I wouldn't expect Thomas or Alito to vote in favor of trans rights, nor would I expect the libs to vote against them, but I wouldn't be surprised by much of anything from the rest.
I'm sure you will be disappointed to find out that yes they are a protected class under title VII
The “meaning” of a cake is that it is delicious and good to eat. Sometimes it’s even “pretty”.Well by telling the baker the meaning, the ambiguous decoration is no longer ambiguous. Meaning was established.
I agree with the assessment prior to telling the baker the meaning....he wouldn't have objected. One doesn't reasonably infer meaning from the decoration alone.
Once the meaning was explicitly stated
....it's not something that one needs to infer.
The “meaning” of a cake is that it is delicious and good to eat. Sometimes it’s even “pretty”.
The “meaning of the decorations” doesn’t enter into it.Normally....but when the client divulged the meaning of the decorations, I think they blew the case.
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