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Neither are most unregistered gun owners.Most registered gun owners aren't the ones going out, and doing these crazy things.
Unfortunately, we have gangs especially in certain cities that run wild. They have illegal guns, and they don't care if they kill people outside their circle of bad guys. A city near me has very restrictive gun laws, and yet it has no effect on the gangs at all. More people were killed there than in Afghanistan. People need to stop and let that soak in for a minute.
I think its cruel that the government allows these gangs to run these neighborhoods, and yet they have allowed it for as long as I can remember. Other cities do much better on that front, but the government there is so arrogant they won't allow enough changes to happen to save their own people. Of course they are the poor, and many are minorities - which if anyone wants to scream 'racism'? I wouldn't have an issue with it there. Why? It wouldn't happen in the RICH parts of the city. It's hypocritical with all their chanting of inclusiveness, diversity, etc. They are all mouth and no action. They love to chant their "Sanctuary' status, but do they market to those people their chances of getting killed there are high? Nope.
The mayor loves to tell people its guns from surrounding states, but if you read enough news stories? It's a convenient tale that is politically satisfying to him, and not reality. Yet, they leave him alone...because he does all the 'right' things overall - and well connected. If he loses in the next election? Someone with his same 'groupthink' will take over, and nothing will change. It makes me cynical, because you see all these innocents die...and they do nothing.
Their gun laws aren't saving them, because their government ignores problems they decide NOT to deal with. It's heartbreaking, and cruel. It really is.
Private group or NGO. The issue with the government being in charge is one of our government having no checks and balances. That is a very dangerous road to go down.
Because when talking about African Americans, he refers to the inner cities, he does that all the time. Most African Americans do not live in the inner city, yet this does not stop Trump from conflating the two. That is racist.Just to put mit out there:
Trump: "inner cities run by Democrats are more dangerous than war zones"
The media's response? Well, Trump is racist.
This comment right here:
“Our inner cities are a disaster. You get shot walking to the store. They have no education. They have no jobs. I will do more for African-Americans and Latinos than she (Hillary) can ever do in 10 lifetimes.... we need to get the drugs out. We need to get the crime and the gangs out.”
Was seen as a majorly racist comment. It was spun into that all Trump saw were blacks and Latinos in inner cities, and that those races are why Trump thought they needed to be cleaned out.
Because when talking about African Americans, he refers to the inner cities, he does that all the time. Most African Americans do not live in the inner city, yet this does not stop Trump from conflating the two. That is racist.
Granted, ignorance or even an ignorant comment can be viewed racist. I thought it was a stupid way of stating it.
His intentions, however, are to help people in low-income areas, inner cities, and gang overrun neighborhoods. He put it wrong.
Honestly, there are so many levels of stupid in that comment.
They should be charged for the murders. If the guns were stolen maybe we should get of all guns.So- how do we keep guns out of the hands of those that aren't legally allowed to have them anyway?
It's actually so rare for someone to do what this guy did as to be one of the last things we should be worried about. What it is is a rare thing that percolates to the surface of a "news junkie" culture, which we have become.Neither are most unregistered gun owners.
Not to defend criminals but when was the last time you heard of a gang member pointlessly shooting up a church, or school, or concert, or mall, or a movie theater?
It doesn't happen. Gang members mostly kill each other because that's just what their business entails. We need to try to stop these random massacres that seem to happen in our country alarmingly more frequently than in any other civilized nation. Bringing up the average gangster or street thug is ignoring the issue.
Inner cores have definitely been gentrified. I remember working in downtown Seattle about ten years ago. It was a nice and safe place, until it got dark. I remember, especially on third avenue, where all the poor blacks were waiting around bus stops, to be extra careful and aware if I found myself there after a later than normal work day. The busses becam their connectivity to the "inner city" from the CD (central district) when now has also been somewhat gentrified.Just to put mit out there:
Trump: "inner cities run by Democrats are more dangerous than war zones"
The media's response? Well, Trump is racist.
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This comment right here:
“Our inner cities are a disaster. You get shot walking to the store. They have no education. They have no jobs. I will do more for African-Americans and Latinos than she (Hillary) can ever do in 10 lifetimes.... we need to get the drugs out. We need to get the crime and the gangs out.”
Was seen as a majorly racist comment. It was spun into that all Trump saw were blacks and Latinos in inner cities, and that those races are why Trump thought they needed to be cleaned out.
They should be charged for the murders. If the guns were stolen maybe we should get of all guns.
I don't worry much about being killed in a mass shooting but you can tell the families of the 26 people killed yesterday their real concern should be with the people out protesting police violence and not the person who just murdered their loved ones in their church yesterday.It's actually so rare for someone to do what this guy did as to be one of the last things we should be worried about. What it is is a rare thing that percolates to the surface of a "news junkie" culture, which we have become.
And focusing on stuff like this while ignoring the real problems can get us into trouble. Case in point, we have an active and dangerous "Black Lives Matter" movement happening in our country (well, getting rid of Obama gave it a strong shot of cold water, but still...) because of the epidemic of "innocent and unarmed" black man being shot and killed by white cops. Except that is not what is happening.
Look at these numbers. Yes, that is ten. TEN. Total.
POLICE KILLING OF BLACKS: Data for 2015, 2016, 2017 - Sociology Toolbox
I think it's interesting that you make a post about black people when the post you quoted was about gang members and thugs... it makes me think of the "What does a thug look like?" and the gymnastics people used to pretend that they don't mean black.It's actually so rare for someone to do what this guy did as to be one of the last things we should be worried about. What it is is a rare thing that percolates to the surface of a "news junkie" culture, which we have become.
And focusing on stuff like this while ignoring the real problems can get us into trouble. Case in point, we have an active and dangerous "Black Lives Matter" movement happening in our country (well, getting rid of Obama gave it a strong shot of cold water, but still...) because of the epidemic of "innocent and unarmed" black man being shot and killed by white cops. Except that is not what is happening.
Look at these numbers. Yes, that is ten. TEN. Total.
POLICE KILLING OF BLACKS: Data for 2015, 2016, 2017 - Sociology Toolbox
Yep. What makes this news is two things: It is rare and guns are controversial.I don't worry much about being killed in a mass shooting but you can tell the families of the 26 people killed yesterday their real concern should be with the people out protesting police violence and not the person who just murdered their loved ones in their church yesterday.
What worries more than these actual shootings is our sheer inability to address this as a problem in our society. Instead we turn to infighting and blaming everyone we don't like. If we can't even recognize it as a problem, what hope do we have of ever fixing or even improving it?
My point was that something that IS dangerous, BLM, is based on lousy information and a warped view of what is happening in the real world.I think it's interesting that you make a post about black people when the post you quoted was about gang members and thugs... it makes me think of the "What does a thug look like?" and the gymnastics people used to pretend that they don't mean black.
Gang members and thugs != black people
When you're talking about gangs, they entail more than Bloods or Crips. They also include Latin Kings, MS-13, the Mafia, Black Dragons, Flying Dragons, Bandidos, Cossacks, etc.
But the quote you responded to was about gang members and thugs and you launched into a response about Black Lives Matter. And what's more puzzling is talking about unarmed people being killed by the police when the topic is gun violence.My point was that something that IS dangerous, BLM, is based on lousy information and a warped view of what is happening in the real world.
I never mentioned "thugs".
My mistake, then. My whole point about events like this is taht we are completely missing the point when we talk about false "causes" and ignore the real issue, and that sometimes that can cause even MORE harm. The BLM connection to less than one "unarmed black man" shooting per state (and even then ignores that some of them were not "innocent' nor helpless).But the quote you responded to was about gang members and thugs and you launched into a response about Black Lives Matter. And what's more puzzling is talking about unarmed people being killed by the police when the topic is gun violence.
I don't know where you got that statistic from but it is not true. Here is a link to a site promoting gun control, so if anything they are biased against gun ownership.If you had good systems you wouldnt have over 700 children under the age of ten killed each year by another toddler.
A stupid way he persists in stating it. Remember, Donald doesn't suffer correction well -- or at all, for that matter.
As he often does -- Chronic foot-in-mouth syndrome.
If you're referring to Donald's comment, we'd need a DSRV to plumb the depths of some of his more asinine comments if you're looking to avoid the appearance of racism...
The problem, as I've said before, is threefold:
1: A public figure can't afford too many unfortunate gaffes before earning (deserved or not) a reputation.
2: For a president, anything more than one is too many.
3: Donald has had far more than one.
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