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Hey everyone. I haven't posted here in quite some time. Mainly because I've been really busy. I am absolutely, totally, crazy in love with my boyfriend. We dated for about three months almost two years ago and five months ago we started dating again. We have a serious relationship and we intend to get married when we can get some other things straightened out.

Last night I felt this anger welling up inside me. I went for a walk and he joined me. He took my hand and asked, "are you angry with me?" I said, "no. I'm angry, but not at you."

Here's the issue. I'm 25 and he's 41. I know it's a big age difference, but it's an obstacle we've managed to overcome somewhat. Jim was married about twelve years ago to a woman who had two young children each from a different previous marriage. They were miserable. The marriage lasted about four years before she took the kids and moved to Florida to shack up with a guy she met on the internet. With the way the situation was going, Jim wasn't all that heartbroken about it, except for the fact that she moved his son so far away. She would later confess that she saw nothing in him but a steady paycheck and a babysitter for her kids. Nice, huh?

Well, there's a part of me that is angry because I feel like this totally undeserving woman got Jim all to herself during his prime. Now he's always tired, his body aches after working in a steel mill all day long. We never really go out and do anything because he gets exhausted around ten o'clock. I understand the situation, but it still makes me insanely upset that his ex got to spend his best years with him. I almost feel like the virgin who devoted her body to the Lord and stayed pure for her husband, only to find out on her wedding night that he had been with countless women, most of them one-night stands. You feel hurt that someone else, who didn't deserve such a gift, got to have that experience and you're getting what's left over. I feel robbed in a way. I know it sounds incredibly juvenile and selfish.

Jim sat me down last night and he said, "Jennifer, it's going to get worse every year I'm alive. I have heart problems and Alzheimer's runs in my family. I don't mean to sound morbid or negative, but I probably won't live but another twenty years." It absolutely devestates me to think of it. I'm thinking about myself being in my early forties and being a widow. But then I think about guys who are closer to my age range and it makes me shudder. I love Jim because he's from the "old school" where men treat women like ladies. Before chivalry turned into a word synonymous with "wuss". I don't know how I should feel about all of this. I guess I just needed to vent. Please pray for us. :(
 

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From the sounds of it the reason you don't want someone your age is because you don't think they'll treat you right, correct? Well I'm going to have to disagree with you, there are guys out there that will treat you like a lady. They're just a little harder to find. I understand that you have strong feelings for him by now, but I would consider what will to your future. But the best thing you can do is pray about it. And don't forget God had amazing Plans for you Jennifer.:)
 
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I think Jim needs to become proactive in regards to his health, engage in some preventative medicine (exercise, medications for his heart, etc.). A man of 41, given the advances in medicine, should expect to live another 40 years at least, even with his family history. He may also want to consider a job change, it is probably what is really wearing him down. Mainly, he just needs to do right for himself and for you. "Get busy living or get busy dying" (quote from The Shawshank Redemption").
 
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Hi Jennifer, :)

"In sickness or in health, 'til death do us part..." There's a reason why that line is in the traditional wedding vows. There are always pros & cons to every decision made. In relationships, there are tradeoffs as well. An older man will be more tired and have possible health issues as he gets older. That's part of the "package", so to speak if you decide to marry an older man. But as you said, you see the "good" qualities in him that could outweigh the negative you see, true? No one is perfect, but I think what's even more important than the age gap to consider, is whether Jim is a spiritually mature Christian who loves God with all of his heart, mind and soul. Does he put his security in God and God only? Has he learned any valuable lessons from his first marriage? Is he a man after God's heart?

As far as your fear of being a young widow, have faith knowing that God loves you and wants the best for you. He will NEVER LEAVE YOU...therefore, if and when God closes one door, another one will be opened. As you grow closer to God and learn to trust in Him, you will understand the depths of His love for you. His love casts out all fears and brings you joy and freedom to love others.

From your post, all the negative feelings you have vented leads me to think that maybe you are not 100% sure whether Jim is the right one for you. Maybe take more time in the relationship before you get engaged. It's a good idea to work out all the issues both of you are having. As you can tell from the marriage forum, there are many marriages that are struggling due to partners being unequally yoked and spiritual immaturity. So you're smart not to rush into marriage.

You're a sweet person and deserve the very best in life. May God give you peace, wisdom, and bless your relationship with Jim. :angel:
 
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Yikes.. If I were in your shoes I don't think missing the best years or getting leftovers would be my main concern. Aside from the fact that the Bible calls divorce and remarriage "adultery", which is a sin that if continued and not repented of could keep a person out of Heaven, how do you know there wasn't another reason his wife left him? I'm sure she wasn't perfect, but maybe he didn't treat her right either. If that's the case then keep in mind he'll likely treat you the same way. I'm not trying to be a downer, I just know what the Bible says and this situation gives me an uneasy feeling. After all there's a reason you have this feeling like you're getting someone else's leftovers--he has already married and you weren't the bride. God designed marriage to last "for as long as you both shall live". Disruption of that design results in pain. The good news is that you still have time to back out of this thing and marry the way God intended, if you want to.

I do wish the best for both of you, and I will pray.
 
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Carri20 said:
Yikes.. If I were in your shoes I don't think missing the best years or getting leftovers would be my main concern. Aside from the fact that the Bible calls divorce and remarriage "adultery", which is a sin that if continued and not repented of could keep a person out of Heaven, how do you know there wasn't another reason his wife left him? I'm sure she wasn't perfect, but maybe he didn't treat her right either. If that's the case then keep in mind he'll likely treat you the same way. I'm not trying to be a downer, I just know what the Bible says and this situation gives me an uneasy feeling. After all there's a reason you have this feeling like you're getting someone else's leftovers--he has already married and you weren't the bride. God designed marriage to last "for as long as you both shall live". Disruption of that design results in pain. The good news is that you still have time to back out of this thing and marry the way God intended, if you want to.

I do wish the best for both of you, and I will pray.

If you divorce someone for cheating on you then you're guiltless. Since her boyfriend lost his wife to another man and I'm assuming he didn't start dating this girl until after the divorce I think they're ok.
 
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Well that's iffy. According to the Bible, you can DIVORCE your spouse if they are unfaithful, but does it say you can remarry? No. This is where people are left to assume one way or the other--is it ok to remarry, or is it not? I would think a person who truly desires to please the Lord would refrain from seeking a new marriage partner after a divorce. There's no may-be-sin up that path.
 
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I think you are right to view yourself as deserving of a knight in shining armor. This guy is old, he was spiritually undiscerning enough to marry someone who viewed him as a paycheck. He is tired, and believes he wont live much longer. He thinks he will get alzheimer's disease. He seems broken, and in need of Jesus Christ, not you.

I would advise not to missionary date. This man needs Jesus to revitalize him. This burden will fall to you, if you feel too weak to guide him to Jesus you need to RUN. Your walk with God is more valuable than anything, don't let anything compromise it.

Remember, do not missionary date. The burdens are too heavy for you, you have to let Christ carry them. Run.
 
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fluffy_rainbow said:
Hey everyone. I haven't posted here in quite some time. Mainly because I've been really busy. I am absolutely, totally, crazy in love with my boyfriend. We dated for about three months almost two years ago and five months ago we started dating again. We have a serious relationship and we intend to get married when we can get some other things straightened out.

Last night I felt this anger welling up inside me. I went for a walk and he joined me. He took my hand and asked, "are you angry with me?" I said, "no. I'm angry, but not at you."

Here's the issue. I'm 25 and he's 41. I know it's a big age difference, but it's an obstacle we've managed to overcome somewhat. Jim was married about twelve years ago to a woman who had two young children each from a different previous marriage. They were miserable. The marriage lasted about four years before she took the kids and moved to Florida to shack up with a guy she met on the internet. With the way the situation was going, Jim wasn't all that heartbroken about it, except for the fact that she moved his son so far away. She would later confess that she saw nothing in him but a steady paycheck and a babysitter for her kids. Nice, huh?

Well, there's a part of me that is angry because I feel like this totally undeserving woman got Jim all to herself during his prime. Now he's always tired, his body aches after working in a steel mill all day long. We never really go out and do anything because he gets exhausted around ten o'clock. I understand the situation, but it still makes me insanely upset that his ex got to spend his best years with him. I almost feel like the virgin who devoted her body to the Lord and stayed pure for her husband, only to find out on her wedding night that he had been with countless women, most of them one-night stands. You feel hurt that someone else, who didn't deserve such a gift, got to have that experience and you're getting what's left over. I feel robbed in a way. I know it sounds incredibly juvenile and selfish.

Jim sat me down last night and he said, "Jennifer, it's going to get worse every year I'm alive. I have heart problems and Alzheimer's runs in my family. I don't mean to sound morbid or negative, but I probably won't live but another twenty years." It absolutely devestates me to think of it. I'm thinking about myself being in my early forties and being a widow. But then I think about guys who are closer to my age range and it makes me shudder. I love Jim because he's from the "old school" where men treat women like ladies. Before chivalry turned into a word synonymous with "wuss". I don't know how I should feel about all of this. I guess I just needed to vent. Please pray for us. :(

my husband is 14 yrs older than me. its not a big deal yet. your in my prayers babe.
 
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fluffy_rainbow said:
Well, there's a part of me that is angry because I feel like this totally undeserving woman got Jim all to herself during his prime. Now he's always tired, his body aches after working in a steel mill all day long. We never really go out and do anything because he gets exhausted around ten o'clock. I understand the situation, but it still makes me insanely upset that his ex got to spend his best years with him. I almost feel like the virgin who devoted her body to the Lord and stayed pure for her husband, only to find out on her wedding night that he had been with countless women, most of them one-night stands. You feel hurt that someone else, who didn't deserve such a gift, got to have that experience and you're getting what's left over. I feel robbed in a way. I know it sounds incredibly juvenile and selfish.

Hi Jennifer,

First, I want to say that I've read a good number of your posts awhile ago, and I find you to be an inspiring woman who has an awesome testimony of God's love and restoration in her life :)

As for your hurt, I can understand how that feels, to a certain degree. I waited for my husband, but he did not wait for me, sadly... he was with one other girl and lived with her for six months. But on the flip side of things, I am the only one he ever made a covenant with and married, and I am the only one he has ever been given a gift by, the only one who has ever loved him (she was extremely abusive and had Narcissistic Personality Disorder), the only one who his friends and family liked/loved, only one who was ever part of his family, and many other important "firsts" that would take forever to list (and there are even a lot of physical firsts for both of us!). Secondly, I have to realize that although I did save my virginity for him, I was not completely pure either, and "he who lusts has committed adultery in his heart." Although I'd never had any type of sex with anyone but my husband, I'd done various physical things with other guys, including an ex fiance, and I'd struggled with purity in other ways. So even though I may have saved a bit more for him than he did for me, I messed up too. (And emotionally, I actually saved less for him than he did for me... but that is a different story) And, my ex fiance (who also later turned abusive) stole a lot of my "prime," especially as compared to how it is now, as I am bipolar now and I wasn't when I was with him.

I think my situation would apply to you at least conceptually, if not experientially in some ways too.

If the man you are with is committed to growing in wisdom and love of the Lord, you are in fact getting his best years emotionally and mentally, as well as relationally. And, it is at the metaphysical level that connections are formed... you will have incomparably more intimacy with him, now that he is more mature and more wise than he used to be. (No matter how mature he was then, I know nobody who was smarter and more mature in their twenties than they are in their forties) I realize the physical aspects of it are frustrating and sad though :( In Heaven we will all have new, strong, and capable bodies... so someday you will have all you missed in knowing him, and more (marriage will not exist in heaven apart from marriage with Christ, but I definitely believe that we will always have a very special relationship, and our closest human relationship with our spouse on earth, even once we are in heaven).

I hope this encourages you and helps. I will be praying for you. :prayer:

Love,
Kayli
 
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I'll be praying for you. I really liked the post of prevention, exercise, vitamins, etc. My husband is 36 and has complained about the same thing for years. (Being tired all the time, etc.) I think some of it comes when you just feel so negative too. JMO
 
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Carri20 said:
Well that's iffy. According to the Bible, you can DIVORCE your spouse if they are unfaithful, but does it say you can remarry? No. This is where people are left to assume one way or the other--is it ok to remarry, or is it not? I would think a person who truly desires to please the Lord would refrain from seeking a new marriage partner after a divorce. There's no may-be-sin up that path.
With the exception of adultery I agree with you.

"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." - Matt 19:9

So to me, Jesus said it flat-out. If and only if she cheats on you, you can divorce and remarry without it being adultery. It would be adultery in any other case.

But anyway.

To the OP, I don't know what God's will is for your life. Or for Jim's. Undoubtedly you did learn something from this, but that's not going to comfort you very much. All I can say is Jesus loves you and has blessings in store for you, either on earth or in Heaven. That's probably painfully shallow but I will pray for you.
 
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Carri20 said:
Well that's iffy. According to the Bible, you can DIVORCE your spouse if they are unfaithful, but does it say you can remarry? No. This is where people are left to assume one way or the other--is it ok to remarry, or is it not? I would think a person who truly desires to please the Lord would refrain from seeking a new marriage partner after a divorce. There's no may-be-sin up that path.

I see what you are saying Carrie, and perhaps in a perfect world we could put all our feelings (hormones, prejudices, characteristics, etc.) in a box and hide it away and do only what is absolutely, 100% right before God 100% of the time. I suppose we should all strive for that. But we all fail, and if you fall in love, well - ya fall in love. And it's not so easy to give somebody up after that's already happened because some people feel the Bible is iffy on this. I don't think it is.

I think personally that if you can divorce your spouse if they are unfaithful, it is only logical that you could be married to another. If you have every right to return to being single... well, don't singles have every right to marry?

Anyway, I don't think that's the problem Fluffy is particularly asking for help on today - and I wanted to let you know that I completely understand your feeling on this one. You'd love to have him when he was say, 30. But the thing is, maybe you would have absolutely despised him when he was thirty. Obviously, he wasn't very good at choosing women then! :) He might have let you walk right on by, or might have not treated you well... or, well, we'll never know. I think you are like me and constantly try to wonder about "what if". Eventually, I always have to just tell myself to STOP and remember where I am, what the reality of the situation is, and then ask if I can accept it or not.
 
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Well, all i can say is that you cant change the past or the age gap but you sound ok with it. Its ok to feel that way but dont loose perspective of the whole situstion. That is you love him even with the way you are feeling and that you cannot forget so understand that. If you love him then this issue should pass and you can find ways to accomodate each other, like take weekends off or some other time when both of you are up to it.
 
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