Israel-Hamas Thread II

[essentialsaltes]

Five journalists among 20 killed in Israeli strike on hospital, Gaza officials say​

We have verified several graphic videos showing two Israeli strikes on Nasser Hospital in Gaza, killing a number of journalists.

One video, captured on a livestream by Al Ghad TV, shows several emergency workers responding to the first strike near the top floor of Nasser Hospital, as a number of journalists in the background capture the scene.

A staircase, where journalists often gather to film views across Khan Younis, is visible in the footage. A strike then directly hits the emergency workers and reporters, sending smoke and rubble in the air. At least one body is visible in the aftermath.

Many people are saying that terrorists use a first strike to draw medics and journalists, and you follow it up with a second to kill them.

Today's attack comes two weeks after six journalists, including four from Al Jazeera, were killed in an Israeli targeted attack near al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City.

The Foreign Press Association has called for an "immediate explanation" from the Israeli military and PM's office following the death of "a group of journalists from several major international news outlets".

There is extensive damage to the main building of Nasser Hospital in the southern Gaza Strip, the World Health Organization (WHO) chief says.

In a post on X, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus says the area hit houses the hospital's emergency department, the inpatient ward and the surgical unit, and that the emergency staircase has been damaged.

He adds that among those injured are "critically ill patients who were already receiving care".

I have just discovered that on Saturday I used some material in a report for BBC Radio 4 taken from the final story that [Reuters cameraman] Hussam filed for Reuters. He captured the funeral of an entire family that was killed by an Israeli air strike on a displacement camp in Khan Younis.

Over 190 journalists have been killed since the start of the Israel-Gaza war, says the Committee to Protect Journalists, with at least 180 of them being Palestinians killed by Israel.

 

[wing2000]

We have verified several graphic videos showing two Israeli strikes on Nasser Hospital in Gaza, killing a number of journalists.

One video, captured on a livestream by Al Ghad TV, shows several emergency workers responding to the first strike near the top floor of Nasser Hospital, as a number of journalists in the background capture the scene.

Unacceptable. Hitting the same target after 1st responders move in is an act of a terrorist nation.

 

[Vanellus]

The dangerous lives of Palestinian journalists in Gaza:

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Gaza’s journalists are talented, professional and dignified. That’s why Israel targets them | Nesrine Malik

What the Israeli government is trying to do with these killings is not just stop the stream of damning reports and footage, but annihilate the very image of Palestinians that these media professionals convey. The credibility, dignity and talent that Gaza’s journalists exhibit to the world in their reports and social media posts has to be extinguished.

But I think Nesrine Malik may be wrong. Israel has the weapons and money to destroy Gaza and either kill, starve or forcibly displace all Palestinians living there. And it has massive western support. So it may well succeed in burying the truth and for some people on this forum that is evidently a good thing.

 

[Benaiah468]

History has come full circle - Gaza has become the 21stC version of the "WARSAW GHETTO"and the deaths of almost 60,000 Palestinians, primarily women and children combined with a policy of mass starvation is Netanyahu's version of the "HOLOCAUST!"

Meanwhile, Holocaust comparisons seem to be socially acceptable again, even in connection with Israel's actions in Gaza, of all places.

Your comparison is not only ignorant of history. It is malicious. Because it insinuates that Israel, the state of Holocaust survivors, the refuge for the Jewish people, is acting today as the Nazis once did. It is a perfidious reversal of all the facts: the state that is defending itself against a murderous terrorist organization is equated with the greatest extermination regime in history.

Such a comparison is not an opinion. It is an accelerant. It relativizes the industrial murder in the gas chambers. It puts targeted military operations, however harsh they may be, on a par with the systematic extermination of an entire people. And it opens the door to a new wave of anti-Semitism, which today no longer reveals itself as such, but disguises itself under the cloak of human rights.

The Gaza Strip is not a walled ghetto, but a territory ruled by Hamas that has repeatedly become a base for terrorism against Israel. Israel withdrew completely in 2005 and received rockets instead of peace.

It is inhumane when a state is forced to destroy underground terrorist systems in the middle of schools and has to justify itself morally while its opponents abuse people as human shields. It is inhumane when a terrorist organisation exploits its own population as a propaganda weapon.

Anyone who draws a comparison between Warsaw Ghetto and Gaza is mocking the dead of Treblinka, Bergen-Belsen and Majdanek. They are insulting the survivors and also insulting those who are risking their lives in the war against Hamas to protect their people.

There is no genocide taking place in Gaza. The population has been growing for decades. And although innocent people are dying at the moment, the figures give no indication that Palestinians are being killed on a scale that amounts to decimation or extermination.

Furthermore, Gaza is not only sealed off by Israel, but also by Egypt. Cairo's role in the suffering in Gaza is generally underreported, but significant.

It is time to move away from these historical comparisons. They demonise and do not point the way to solutions.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Anyone who draws a comparison between Warsaw Ghetto and Gaza is mocking the dead of Treblinka, Bergen-Belsen and Majdanek.

We honor the dead with our resolve to let things like this happen "never again".

 

[Benaiah468]

The only way to ensure the elimination of Hamas members in Gaza is to destroy all infrastructure and housing to effectively render it uninhabitable for all 2.2 million Palestinians!

Objectively speaking, there is hardly any alternative to invading Gaza, because that is where Hamas and its terrorists are based, where their headquarters and infrastructure are located. If you want to deal Hamas a serious blow, you can only do so in the Gaza Strip, not from outside.

Netanyahu has always made it clear that he will not tolerate Hamas remaining in Gaza in any form. Due to Hamas' intransigence, Netanyahu has little choice but to maintain military operations in the Gaza Strip until Israel has achieved its ultimate war aim, namely the complete destruction of the terrorist organisation's military and political infrastructure in the Gaza Strip.

Hamas is fanatical, it carries out terrorist attacks and incites fanaticism among the population. Those who hate Israel are already teaching their children to hate Israel, so that they grow up hating Israel without having decided to do so themselves: a vicious circle.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to separate the evil leaders of Hamas from the peace-loving people. A large proportion of Gaza's inhabitants support Hamas or sympathise with it.

Gaza City is not only geographically the heart of the reign of terror, it is the symbol of power that Hamas wants to defend at all costs. But the terrorist organization has long since changed. The "army" of Oct 7 has become a weakened guerrilla force, hunted down in tunnels, shattered in command structures, without real support.

While Hamas is showing toughness to the outside world, its interior ministry is appealing to Arab states that Israel must be stopped, otherwise Gaza will face the same fate as Rafah, Khan Yunis, and the northern coastal region.

Hamas's double message is telling: it boasts of resilience to Israel, while portraying itself as a victim to the Arab world. This balancing act betrays weakness. The fact that a regime that just months ago fantasized about a "victory" over Israel is now seeking protection from Arab governments speaks volumes. Hamas knows that Israel's plan to take Gaza City is serious, and this time there is no turning back.

The more Hamas boasts with threats, the clearer it becomes: it is fear that speaks. Fear of inevitable defeat, of reckoning with Israel and of the rejection of its own people, who believe less and less in the ‘resistance’ because it has only brought suffering.

If Hamas remains stubborn and refuses to surrender its weapons, release the hostages and capitulate, Israel will certainly implement its plan to temporarily take over the Gaza Strip. The costs may be high, both in terms of the suffering of the population in the Gaza Strip and in terms of possible military losses by the Israeli armed forces, but Israel is convinced that they are worth the outcome: the liberation of the hostages, the disarmament of Hamas, and the end of Hamas's 18-year tyranny over the "Palestinians" in the Gaza Strip.

In the end, it will not be Hamas that determines what the future of Gaza looks like, but Israel and those "Palestinians" who finally want to live without the rule of terror.

Despite their widely expressed public sympathy for the "Palestinians", Arab states in the Middle East show little willingness to accept them as refugees from the Gaza Strip. Yet resettling the inhabitants in Arab countries in the Middle East could reduce the number of civilian casualties in the conflict between Hamas and Israel.

The attitude of Arab countries towards "Palestinian" refugees contradicts the propagated ideals of support and solidarity.

It seems as if they turn a blind eye and a deaf ear when it comes to actually taking in "Palestinians". The obvious contradiction between words and deeds also extends to other Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which often vehemently demand rights for "Palestinians" but in practice do nothing to take in their Muslim brothers and sisters in need.

Nowhere are the "Palestinians" as unwelcome as in the Arab states. And the “Palestinians” who are able to flee want to go anywhere but an Arab country. In the West and in Israel, "Palestinians" have long been citizens, but in the Arab states they remain disenfranchised and stateless, even if they were born there.

 

[Desk trauma]

The Gaza Strip is not a walled ghetto

Furthermore, Gaza is not only sealed off by Israel

Pick one.

 

[Desk trauma]

Objectively speaking, there is hardly any alternative to invading Gaza, because that is where Hamas and its terrorists are based, where their headquarters and infrastructure are located. If you want to deal Hamas a serious blow, you can only do so in the Gaza Strip, not from outside.

I don’t want to be involved in the conflict at all but am forced at gun point to prop up Israel.

 

[Benaiah468]

Unacceptable. Hitting the same target after 1st responders move in is an act of a terrorist nation.

I consider your statement to be a completely unbalanced and malicious insinuation to accuse an entire nation of terrorism.

A terrorist state denies, covers or distorts the facts.
A terrorist state shifts the blame onto others.
A terrorist state does not investigate incidents.

Regarding this case none of this applies to Israel.

Israel values the work of journalists, medical personnel and all civilians.

Netanyahu openly stated that this was a tragic accident. The tragedy occurred despite efforts to prevent harm to civilians. The air strike was directed against high-ranking Hamas members.

"The military authorities are conducting a thorough investigation",

the Prime Minister's Office said in a statement on the tragic incident.

Brigadier General Effie Defrin, spokesperson for the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), made it clear from the outset, that the IDF does not deliberately target civilians.

He explained that Hamas bears ultimate responsibility both for starting the war and for prolonging it by continuing to hold hostages in the Gaza Strip. He emphasised that the IDF would fulfil its duty to investigate the incident in accordance with international law. The Chief of Staff, Eyal Zamir, had ordered an immediate investigation into the incident. He said, that they will present their findings as transparently as possible.

The Israeli military has now announced the initial findings of its investigation. According to these findings, the attack was carried out because of a camera attributed to Hamas. Troops had identified a camera that had been positioned by Hamas to observe its own forces and to carry out terrorist activities against the armed forces. The conclusions were supported by further information, including documented military use of hospitals, including Nasser Hospital, by Hamas, states the final report on the initial investigation.

The Chief of Staff accuses six of the 20 people killed in the attacks of terrorism. At the same time, he expressed regret for any harm caused to civilians. Zamir announced a further investigation into the approval process prior to the attack and the decision-making process on the ground.

Reporting from an active war zone involves enormous risks, especially in a war with a terrorist organisation such as Hamas, which cynically hides behind the civilian population.

After the Oct 7 terror onslaught, Hamas fighters vanished underground. When they emerged again, they were no longer dressed in the military uniforms they had worn to invade Israel, but in civilian clothes, ready to launch attacks while hidden in plain sight among the public.

What does not apply to Israel, but does apply to Hamas:

In Oct two years ago, a fatal explosion occurred in the car park of Al-Ahli Hospital in the Gaza Strip when a rocket struck. Immediately after the explosion, Hamas accused Israel of firing on the hospital. The terrorist Hamas militia spoke of more than 470 fatalities. Hamas's interpretation spread immediately and worldwide.

When asked for evidence, the head of the Hamas government's media office, Salama Maruf, wrote in a message to the New York Times:

"Who says we are obliged to present the remains of every rocket that killed our people? In general, you can come and see for yourself based on the evidence we have."

The cause of the explosion at the hospital turned out to be a misguided rocket fired by the militant "Palestinian" organisation Islamic Jihad from a cemetery behind the hospital.

 

[Benaiah468]

Pick one.

The Gaza Strip is not a walled ghetto

Furthermore, Gaza is not only sealed off by Israel

The Gaza Strip has been entirely under "Palestinian" control since 2005 and functions like a small state.

If you want to enter Israel, you need a visa (permit). Many "Palestinians" have one because they work in Israel and receive medical treatment there.

Before Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in 2007, there were 120,000 "Palestinian" workers in Israel, which provide the local economy with 2 billion dollars budget every year. Before the second "Palestinian" intifada in 2000, more than 40,000 workers from the Gaza Strip spoke fluent Hebrew, a language they had acquired while working in Israel in various fields. Israel revoked work permits for about 13,000 "Palestinian" workers from the Gaza Strip to work legally in Israel following the Hamas attack on 7 Oct.

The bitter truth is that some of them carried out the espionage work that Hamas needed to prepare for the recent massacres, a huge breach of trust. Anyone can read in Hamas' charter that the government in Gaza wants to destroy Israel. That is why Israel keeps the border relatively closed and pays close attention to who enters the country.

Many countries do the same, by the way. Egypt has also sealed its border.

The Warsaw Ghetto served as a precursor to the complete extermination of the Jews. Israel does not have extermination camps.

The inhabitants of the Warsaw Ghetto never massacred innocent civilians. Never. Of course, Nazi soldiers were targeted. Attacks on military personnel are legal under the laws of war. But as terrible as conditions in the Warsaw Ghetto were, and as desperate as its inhabitants were, they never attacked innocent civilians. Hamas showed its true barbaric face when it cold-bloodedly killed a thousand innocent Israeli civilians.

If Israel could believe that the "Palestinians" would become responsible members of a democracy, some believe they would be offered citizenship. However, since a culture of resistance and hatred is deeply rooted in Gaza society, such a measure is unlikely.

It would be wonderful if Jews and "Palestinians" could participate in building a nation as equal citizens. But how can a sustainable society be maintained when a significant portion of the population finds secular democratic rule with Jews ethnically and religiously repugnant?

 

[PK_VDMA]

Well I'm drunk on it.

I love the Jews so much, I wish I was one - I'm a Jew wannabe... If I could wear a skull cap without fear of being a fraud, I'd wear one everyday. Not for religious reasons, but because I know a superior culture when I see one.

I’m picturing a Catholic walking into Mass wearing a kippah and a AIPAC pin.

 

[PK_VDMA]

The Gaza Strip has been entirely under "Palestinian" control since 2005 and functions like a small state.

If you want to enter Israel, you need a visa. Many "Palestinians" have one because they work in Israel and receive medical treatment there. The bitter truth is that some of them carried out the espionage work that Hamas needed to prepare for the recent massacres, a huge breach of trust. Anyone can read in Hamas' charter that the government in Gaza wants to destroy Israel. That is why Israel keeps the border relatively closed and pays close attention to who enters the country.

Many countries do the same, by the way. Egypt has also sealed its border.

The Warsaw Ghetto served as a precursor to the complete extermination of the Jews. Israel does not have extermination camps.

The inhabitants of the Warsaw Ghetto never massacred innocent civilians. Never. Of course, Nazi soldiers were targeted. Attacks on military personnel are legal under the laws of war. But as terrible as conditions in the Warsaw Ghetto were, and as desperate as its inhabitants were, they never attacked innocent civilians. Hamas showed its true barbaric face when it cold-bloodedly killed a thousand innocent Israeli civilians.

If Israel could believe that the "Palestinians" would become responsible members of a democracy, some believe they would be offered citizenship. However, since a culture of resistance and hatred is deeply rooted in Gaza society, such a measure is unlikely.

It would be wonderful if Jews and "Palestinians" could participate in building a nation as equal citizens. But how can a sustainable society be maintained when a significant portion of the population finds secular democratic rule with Jews ethnically and religiously repugnant?

Oh, look, a “Judeo-Christian”. I see your comrade are hard at work destroying what’s left of Christianity in the region—paid for by American taxpayers . ALL for 1948 Israel—lol. As a USA taxpayer I can’t wait to see their funding cut off.

 

[essentialsaltes]

UN human rights staff urge leadership to declare Israel’s war in Gaza a genocide​

The letter, seen by the Guardian, says that based on the “available evidence and authoritative assessments by the UN-appointed experts, as well as legal and [international humanitarian law] professionals, the legal threshold [for genocide] has been met. [We] therefore urge the Office to state the legal characterization publicly.”

The 1,100-word letter, signed by about a quarter of the 2,000 staff of the Geneva- and New York-based Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), says the Israeli offensive in Gaza meets the legal threshold of genocide and that this means “arms sales, transfers and related logistical or financial support to Israeli authorities” constitutes a clear breach of international law by all those involved.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I’m picturing a Catholic walking into Mass wearing a kippah and a AIPAC pin.

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Churches are just buildings. It would be better to flee.

 

[PK_VDMA]

Churches are just buildings. It would be better to flee.

It’s truly inspiring to see boomer Israel-worshipers passionately backing an anti-Christian regime over actual Christians. Priorities, right? Apparently, there’s a divine exemption clause that lets Israel dehumanize anyone in their path, no limits, no questions asked. Must be nice to have a blank moral check endorsed by blind allegiance. US Congress is occupied territory of Israel. Before the 2003 Iraq War for Israel, the Christian population in Iraq was over a million, today around 150,000. All these desert wars for Israel sake brings nothing but destruction to Christians. Brought to you by USA taxpayer money.

 

[Benaiah468]

UN human rights staff urge leadership to declare Israel’s war in Gaza a genocide​

Those who blame Israel for the deaths in Gaza refuse to see the obvious: Hamas is the real culprit. Under international law, the terrorist organization ranks among humanity's worst enemies.

It is one of the most perfidious distortions of our time: while Hamas openly declares its goal of destroying Israel and keeping the civilian population in fear and terror, international voices accuse not the terrorists, but the Jewish state. The images from Gaza, destroyed houses, suffering families, are being exploited to demonize Israel. But anyone who takes the law seriously cannot ignore a simple truth: Hamas is responsible for the suffering in Gaza.

Legally, the situation is clear. Terrorist organizations such as Hamas have been considered "hostes humani generis", enemies of all humanity, for centuries. Those who deliberately target civilians, who abuse children as human shields, who use rape, torture, and hostage-taking as instruments of war, forfeit any right to invoke "liberation" or "self-determination." International law clearly distinguishes between attack and defense, between legitimate combat operations and intentional crimes.

Israel is not the aggressor here, but rather a state defending itself and its citizens and in doing so, protecting the international legal order. Every attack, every rocket, every perfidious use of hospitals as weapons depots is not only an attack on Israel, but on the very idea of a civilized world.

Since its founding, Hamas has not spent a single day trying to build a peaceful community. Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 would have provided an opportunity to build schools, infrastructure, and a functioning economy. Instead, those in power invested in tunnel systems, rocket production, and the cult of death. They relied on martyr myths and the absurd idea that bloodshed would bring eternal life. With this religiously embellished nihilism, peaceful coexistence is impossible.

The fact that Israel causes civilian casualties in its defensive operations is a bitter reality, but not intentional. In legal terms, there is no "mens rea," no intent. Hamas, on the other hand, bases its entire strategy on precisely this intent: civilians are to die, Jews as well as its own population, because only these images serve its own narrative. With every "Palestinian" child driven to its death, Hamas believes it is increasing political pressure on Israel. It is a despicable but coldly calculated logic.

However, international law does not recognize any excuse for such crimes. The principles of distinction, proportionality, and military necessity apply to states as well as to insurgents. Anyone who, like Hamas, deliberately misuses hospitals, schools, and residential buildings as cover is committing "perfidy", a serious violation of the laws of war that is clearly defined in the Geneva Conventions. This guilt cannot be relativized, glossed over, or shifted onto Israel.

The international community therefore not only has the opportunity, but also the duty to punish Hamas. This is not a regional conflict, but a crime against humanity. Those who spare the perpetrators are complicit. Those who seek to blame Israel undermine the foundations of international law.

In the sober language of justice, truth is exonerating. For Israel, this means that its defense against Hamas is not an act of aggression, but the only possible response to an enemy that flatly denies the Jewish state's right to exist. The real perpetrators are sitting in the bunkers of Gaza, not in the offices of Jerusalem.

In the end, we are left with an uncomfortable but inevitable realization: there will be no peace until "Palestinian" society openly renounces the logic of terror. As long as Hamas is celebrated and excused, as long as the international stage willingly accepts its lies, Gaza will remain a battlefield. Those who truly want peace must acknowledge the truth and that truth is that Hamas is not liberation, but crime.

 

[Benaiah468]

Oh, look, a “Judeo-Christian”. I see your comrade are hard at work destroying what’s left of Christianity in the region.

Israel is one of the few countries in the Middle East where Christians enjoy full civil rights, can practise their religion freely, hold high office and do not have to fear reprisals, at least not from the authorities. Reprisals and hostility do exist, but these often come from within their own ranks or from Muslim fellow citizens. Although the majority of Christian (68%) and Muslim (61%) Arabs consider themselves ‘Israelis’ and appreciate the freedom that life in Israel offers, Palestinian nationalism remains widespread.

Christian Arabs who live in areas with a Muslim majority must therefore be particularly careful not to become targets. If they keep their views to themselves, nothing will happen to them. But the more they identify as Israelis, the more uncomfortable it becomes for them. This is clearly illustrated by the example of Arab Christians who see themselves as part of the State of Israel in every respect and voluntarily perform military service. For their protection, the Israeli army has granted them special permission: normally, every soldier is required to travel to and from their respective army base in uniform. Christian Arab soldiers, however, are allowed to do so in civilian clothing in order to remain unrecognised among their own people.

Worldwide, the number of devout Christians who recognise G-d's intentions for Israel based on the Bible, who are saddened by the persecution of Jews throughout church history, and who stand up for Israel in prayer and practical support is growing. In addition, more and more Christians and non-Christians are seeing through the one-sided reporting of many media outlets, which all too often pillory Israel and conceal the glorification of violence, corruption, and human rights violations by the Palestinian leadership.

It is all the more surprising that church leaders in Jerusalem, (the city of the great King. Mt 5:35b), in particular, do not share this understanding, but are openly anti-Israeli. Clergy do not want to be accused of normalising relations with Israel or betrayal, nor do they want to put their members in the "Palestinian" territories in danger. Some therefore go on the offensive with anti-Israel statements.

But there is also another, deeper reason: it is the heresy, widespread since the early days of church history, that the Christian church has replaced Israel as G-d's chosen people. According to this replacement theology, which occurs in various forms and under different names (fulfilment theology, substitution theology), all the promises that G-d made explicitly to the Jewish people now apply to the church.

"Palestinian" church leaders have added a political component to the replacement theology prevalent among millions of Christians worldwide and preach a "Palestinian" liberation theology: According to this, Jesus, the Jewish carpenter's son from Nazareth and descendant of the greatest Jewish king, David, was not only a "Palestinian", but the first "Palestinian revolutionary leader." In this way, terrorist attacks against innocent Israeli civilians, for example, are considered legitimate acts against the oppressor. The pro-Palestinian churches are thus causing enormous damage.

A literal interpretation of the Bible, especially the five books of Moses, in which G-d repeatedly reaffirms his eternal covenant with Israel, is rejected. The Gospel is mixed with Palestinian nationalism and Jesus' Jewish identity is denied. The fact that Jesus taught his disciples peacefulness and repeatedly reminded them that His kingdom is not of this world (e.g. Mt 26:52; John 18:36) does not apply to the oppressed in their view.

Coupled with the absence of any critical examination of the Palestinian leadership's inhumane policies, this ideology suggests that Israel alone is to blame for the plight of Christians in the "Palestinian" territories. The fate of their fellow believers in other countries in the Middle East and the freedom of Christian Arab citizens of Israel are ignored.

In Feb 2019, the IDF promoted a Christian soldier to the rank of lieutenant-colonel, making him the first soldier of his faith to achieve that rank. His identity must remain confidential as he is being considered for a high-ranking/high-risk security position.

Lieutenant Colonel I., who hails from Nazareth, said

I call on Christians around the world to ignore those who spread propaganda against the State of Israel, Come to Israel, get to know us and listen to us. See what is happening to Christians in the Middle East and understand why it is important that the State of Israel exists. Israel is the only country in the Middle East where Christians can live in peace, freedom and security.

Instead of harming it, weakening it and making it easy prey for terror and enemies, you should be proud of the Jewish and democratic state that defends its minorities.

There are strong elements among the Christian community and the Arab sector who want us to remain ignorant. They want a rift to exist between the Christians and the Jews, they want to cut us off from the state of Israel. I hope to help break the stigma and the false belief that the state is out to persecute us.

 

[Benaiah468]

ALL for 1948 Israel—lol.

The first Middle East war cost the lives of 6,000 Jews (one per cent of the Jewish population at the time) and countless Arabs. It led to the flight and expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Arabs from "Palestine". It did not destroy the Jewish state, but eliminated Arab "Palestine". After this war, Jordan ruled Judea and Samaria and Egypt ruled the Gaza Strip until 1967: between 1948 and 1967, the Arabs of "Palestine" disappeared from the scene as a national group.

Had this war not taken place, the Arabs in "Palestine" would also have been able to celebrate the 75th anniversary of their state. The establishment of the Arab state was part of the partition resolution passed by the UN on 29 Nov 1947 with a two-thirds majority.

But why was the destruction of the Jewish state more important to the Arabs than the establishment of their own?

 

[rjs330]

UN human rights staff urge leadership to declare Israel’s war in Gaza a genocide​

The letter, seen by the Guardian, says that based on the “available evidence and authoritative assessments by the UN-appointed experts, as well as legal and [international humanitarian law] professionals, the legal threshold [for genocide] has been met. [We] therefore urge the Office to state the legal characterization publicly.”

The 1,100-word letter, signed by about a quarter of the 2,000 staff of the Geneva- and New York-based Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), says the Israeli offensive in Gaza meets the legal threshold of genocide and that this means “arms sales, transfers and related logistical or financial support to Israeli authorities” constitutes a clear breach of international law by all those involved.

Thats utter nonsense. This is not a genocide. This is a war against one of the worst terrorist organizations the world has ever seen. A terrorist organizations that use hospitals, schools, homes as terrorist bases to attack from and use as shields. An organization that deliberately kills civilians and hides among them for the express purpose of forcing Isreal to weigh the problems of civilians dying while trying to kill Hamas fighters and leaders. Israel does not deliberately kill civilians to kill civilians. Hamas does. Israel has tried to move civilians out of the battle zones. Hamas went with them. Israel is trying to get relief to people and Hamas is attacking the convoys and the civilians. Its Hamas, it has always been Hamas and Israel is defending itself, which it has a right and obligation to do.

 

[Benaiah468]

The only way to make Israel look worse than Hamas is to allege that it was acting to eradicate the "Palestinian" people. Israel’s foreign ministry has told Reuters it doesn`t respond to internal UN employees’ letters

“even if they are false, baseless, and blinded by obsessive hatred towards Israel”.

The UN has long had a glaring anti-Israel bias, advancing biased and one-sided efforts to isolate and delegitimize the Jewish state. This anti-Israel prejudice has escalated dramatically since Hamas’ Oct 7 attack.

Across UN agencies, officials have failed to uphold the body’s charter of neutrality and impartiality. They have repeatedly neglected to condemn Hamas’ massacre and in some cases have even justified the gruesome attacks. Most alarmingly, UN staff directly participated in the Hamas’ terrorist attacks.