Doesn't apply as the issue here is the land of Israel/Palestine which isn't about to sink under the waves just yet - but give it time.
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Doesn't apply as the issue here is the land of Israel/Palestine which isn't about to sink under the waves just yet - but give it time.A couple of examples: Red Brigades and Weather Underground.
I'm not sure what the second sentence is supposed to mean.and why is there a shortage of tall buildings in Gaza. Israeli bombs/missiles or misdirected Hamas rockets. How much of the c50% damage in N Gaza is due to misfired Hamas rockets (answer: close to a round number)
You mean like they passed the bodies of dead Jews through the streets and beat them, danced and cheered after October 7? Yeah he was probably part of that atrocity along with his family. It wouldn't be that much different.The principle of the matter being discussed is the same. Kill someone's family and they don't sit around and muse on who was ultimately at fault. Revenge is the immediate reaction. To the point in the example given of everday citizens beating people to death that weren't even actively involved.
Consider a man who is not an active Hamas supporter. His life has been made a lot harder by Israel's policies. He's doing it tough. Maybe he knows what Hamas did to provoke Israel. But he's not part of the problem. But then his entire apartment block is blown to bits. By Israel. His family is dead. Buried in the rubble. What do you honestly think will be his reaction? If the pilot who dropped the bomb was shot down then tell me that we wouldn't have exactly the same situation as happened in Russelsheim. They'd be parading his dead body through the streets.
Bradskii said:Ducking the question:
Not ducking the question. Why should gazans have a corner on the market of wanting vengeance?
How do you know that?And good grief, there are a lot of fathers who have lost children or young men who have seen their family blown to pieces who will now willingly volunteer for that.
You did when answering for Bradskii. Go back and read it.Who suggested that?
That wasn't my comment. Again, go back and read it. #2004 & 1998How do you know that?
You did when answering for Bradskii. Go back and read it.
That wasn't my comment. Again, go back and read it. #2004 & 1998
Aerial bombing is not going to win the war; we already know wars can't be won from the air (excepting nukes). This action must surely be followed by a ground campaign if Israel truly intends to wipe out Hamas. But a ground campaign would be extremely bloody and difficult without the aerial campaign first. Israel really is attempting to locate and destroy tunnel intersections and Hamas central locations, as well as Hamas personnel. They aren't simply indiscriminately dropping bombs everywhere, because that would not satisfy the hard military requirement before the ground campaign. They're simply not worrying so much about the collateral damage that they're failing to achieve the military objective.Ariel bombing may (or may not) accomplish the military objective. However, inflicting extensive collateral harm will push more non-combatants to pick up arms and resist. They most certainly will not blame Hamas as some have suggested here.
No idea where you got that from but it is not my post......Israel-Hamas Thread II
An overreaction by Israel which has lost them friends and gained them enemies. I don't think that is true; I just believe they both have become more vocal and therefore it seems as though the numbers have changed. And good grief, you can't destroy a terrorist group. O course you can; you just...www.christianforums.com
Hasn't the ground campaign started weeks ago?Aerial bombing is not going to win the war; we already know wars can't be won from the air (excepting nukes). This action must surely be followed by a ground campaign if Israel truly intends to wipe out Hamas. But a ground campaign would be extremely bloody and difficult without the aerial campaign first. Israel really is attempting to locate and destroy tunnel intersections and Hamas central locations, as well as Hamas personnel. They aren't simply indiscriminately dropping bombs everywhere, because that would not satisfy the hard military requirement before the ground campaign. They're simply not worrying so much about the collateral damage that they're failing to achieve the military objective.
I don't think that you actually know what empathise means.Huh, too bad you can't seem to 'empathize' with Israel for all the suffering hamas, gazans, west bankers, and Arabs in general have inflicted on the Israeli people. You only seem to be able to 'empathize' with the terrorists and company.
Yes, it did. The air campaign continues to support its progress.Hasn't the ground campaign started weeks ago?
I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Pictures of children with guns. Links to Hamas camps for youngsters. Claims that 12 year olds are stabbing Jewish people to death.Kids as young as 12 have run around Israel stabbing Jews.
I think it's telling that you are far more outraged by people pointing out the hamas war camp for teenagers than by the camps themselves.I'm beginning to see a pattern here. Pictures of children with guns. Links to Hamas camps for youngsters. Claims that 12 year olds are stabbing Jewish people to death.
Coming soon to a thread near you: 'Well, OK. Maybe some children have been killed. But look at all the evidence we have given you as to their involvement.'
If you want to know what I am outraged by then you be sure to ask, OK? In the meantime you can ponder why we are seeing more implications that children are not as innocent as might be assumed. And therefore might be justifiable deaths. As opposed to simply being innocent people blown to pieces.I think it's telling that you are far more outraged by people pointing out the hamas war camp for teenagers than by the camps themselves.
It's evidence in regard to what I discuss, yes. But you, and so many others, seem to think that So's Rule is a given. That it explains someone's view on everything if they post an opinion on one thing. It's bizarrely nonsensical. It's ridiculously illogical. It's simply absurd. But most of the posts in this thread are based on it.No need, your posting behaviour is evidence enough.
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