israel doesn't commit war crimes.

[Rhamiel]

as long as Israel has illegal settlements in the West Bank then they are invading Palestine
that invasion is rightly seen as an act of war
and when you perpetrate acts of wars, sometimes you get rockets thrown at you.

if Israel really wanted peace they would stop the illegal settlements in the West Bank

 

[Armoured]

This is true.

Israel is very careful to try to warn civilians of upcoming attacks on military targets. In fact, they do more in this regard than any nation in history.

so warning people they're about to get bombed out of existence makes it OK. Good to know.

 

[Antigone]

The picture speaks for itself.

Actually, with the picture in your sig right underneath it, it sends a very interesting message, though, I'm guessing, not the one you intended to send.

 

[classicalhero]

I'm sorry, but I don't buy the line "those lives are someone else's responsibility therefore I can bomb the ... out of them".

"He is morally culpable therefore I am not" is a logical fallacy.

Well Israel most certainly hasn't bombed the hell our of Gaza, since much of the damage is caused by IED's, not the bombs Israel use, because the are inert and thus don''t cause the damage we are seeing in Gaza. Considering that there are only close to 2,000 dead out of close to 5,000 attacks shows just how careful Israel has been. Any other nation and the toll would be well into the 10,000's by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiclM2pM29k

 

[Armoured]

Well Israel most certainly hasn't bombed the hell our of Gaza, since much of the damage is caused by IED's, not the bombs Israel use, because the are inert and thus don''t cause the damage we are seeing in Gaza. Considering that there are only close to 2,000 dead out of close to 5,000 attacks shows just how careful Israel has been. Any other nation and

Israel is dropping inert bombs now? Explain what universe that makes any military sense in please?

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Well Israel most certainly hasn't bombed the hell our of Gaza, since much of the damage is caused by IED's, not the bombs Israel use, because the are inert and thus don''t cause the damage we are seeing in Gaza. Considering that there are only close to 2,000 dead out of close to 5,000 attacks shows just how careful Israel has been. Any other nation and the toll would be well into the 10,000's by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiclM2pM29k

Well said!

 

[Sword of the Lord]

There are Palestinian children strewn across the streets of Gaza. Men and women have been slaughtered into the thousands now.

As if your very own church doesn't have a history just as dark.

If my neighbor was shooting his gun at my house and yard, I'd shoot back. I'd protect my wife and kids, and if the coward were to use one of his own children as a shield, so be it. That's not on me. I didn't start the shooting, but I will protect my own and end it.

 

[favoritetoyisjoy]

As if your very own church doesn't have a history just as dark.

If my neighbor was shooting his gun at my house and yard, I'd shoot back. I'd protect my wife and kids, and if the coward were to use one of his own children as a shield, so be it. That's not on me. I didn't start the shooting, but I will protect my own and end it.

+1

 

[S.ilvio]

As if your very own church doesn't have a history just as dark.

If my neighbor was shooting his gun at my house and yard, I'd shoot back. I'd protect my wife and kids, and if the coward were to use one of his own children as a shield, so be it. That's not on me. I didn't start the shooting, but I will protect my own and end it.

Wow, what a hero...

 

[Galilee63]

This is precisely what satan wants - his primary objective - with the spiralling effect.

Jesus and our Blessed Virgin Mary Mother of God answer every prayer prayed from hearts including Holy Rosary Vigils for the cessation of the devil's work through rebels and terrorists (am continuing with The Holy Rosary on my own and participating in The Holy Rosary on Tuesday and Friday with a group) given that group prayer of The Holy Rosary from hearts open to Jesus while focussing on Him - is greatly effective for Jesus and The Blessed Virgin Mary to answer (in Jesus/God's Holy Will).

Therefore, if one could spare a few moments out of one's own day(s) over forthcoming weeks - for Jesus in His Holy Will to remove satan in its persecutions of Christians and others that would be fantastic for all of the people living in the Middle East - our Brothers and Sisters in Jesus Christ our Saviour

Love and Kindest wishes my Brothers and Sisters in Jesus Christ our Saviour

 

[MikeK]

As if your very own church doesn't have a history just as dark.

If my neighbor was shooting his gun at my house and yard, I'd shoot back. I'd protect my wife and kids, and if the coward were to use one of his own children as a shield, so be it. That's not on me. I didn't start the shooting, but I will protect my own and end it.

I would protect my children without killing other children. In fact, I reject this "my children" vs. "their children" line of thinking when it comes to killing. I will protect children, full stop. Israel's job is more difficult if they elect not to kill children, but they have the ability to defend Israeli children without killing Palestinian children, they merely choose not to. Israel has decided that it is preferable to put the lives of Palestinian women and children in jeopardy than to expose its soldiers to that same risk. Lots of countries have done that. Every one of them was wrong. Israel has time, technology and capital in her side. She can send men to arrest or kill those who attack her who must personally account for every bullet they expend. It is difficult, but it is right.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

don't prosecute israel for committing war crimes because israel doesn't commit war crimes.

this shouldn't be allowed to happen because it just isn't right.

why are more and more people saying prosecute israel for committing war crimes?

because israel doesn't deserve to be prosecuted for committing war crimes because israel doesn't commit war crimes.

Well, that's an interesting question.

Israel has had the Gaza strip blockaded for years and years.

A military and Naval blockade is an act of aggressive war. It's one of the few acts that allows a full military response from the country being blockaded under the UN and Geneva accords.

Blockading a country puts you as war with them and makes you the defacto occupier of that country.

As an occupier you have the responsibility for the safety civilians in the occupied area. Israel has been running it's blockade so the the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip get about 2,300 calories of food per day.

That's enough to keep them alive. Not really enough to keep the fed and nowhere near enough to keep them thriving.

Palistians on the Gaza can't move, can't move around, can't leave, cant' get access imported goods, can't export even if they could make something which they can't because the can't get any materials past the blockaded.

That would be called a siege by an international court.

A siege, according to the Geneva accords and the UN, is a blockade that is causing a humanitarian crisis.

Come to whatever conclusion on this want, dear reader.

As for the OP.

There, there, gatt, of course Israel is a pure as the driven snow.

Why would anyone suspect otherwise ?

 

[isshinwhat]

I would protect my children without killing other children. In fact, I reject this "my children" vs. "their children" line of thinking when it comes to killing. I will protect children, full stop. Israel's job is more difficult if they elect not to kill children, but they have the ability to defend Israeli children without killing Palestinian children, they merely choose not to. Israel has decided that it is preferable to put the lives of Palestinian women and children in jeopardy than to expose its soldiers to that same risk. Lots of countries have done that. Every one of them was wrong. Israel has time, technology and capital in her side. She can send men to arrest or kill those who attack her who must personally account for every bullet they expend. It is difficult, but it is right.

This. I tend to think that people who easily accept the killing of children have never been involved in operations where children have died. We rationalize away so much...

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I agree with the sentiment and overall tone of the post, but I must say that Hamas does use children and women as human shields. When you do that, you bear some culpability in their deaths along with the attackers.

I would protect my children without killing other children. In fact, I reject this "my children" vs. "their children" line of thinking when it comes to killing. I will protect children, full stop. Israel's job is more difficult if they elect not to kill children, but they have the ability to defend Israeli children without killing Palestinian children, they merely choose not to. Israel has decided that it is preferable to put the lives of Palestinian women and children in jeopardy than to expose its soldiers to that same risk. Lots of countries have done that. Every one of them was wrong. Israel has time, technology and capital in her side. She can send men to arrest or kill those who attack her who must personally account for every bullet they expend. It is difficult, but it is right.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Well, that's an interesting question.

Israel has had the Gaza strip blockaded for years and years.

Why shouldn't they keep a violent neighbor fenced out?

There is no reason Israel should allow Hamas run territories free access.

 

[Armoured]

Why shouldn't they keep a violent neighbor fenced out?

There is no reason Israel should allow Hamas run territories free access.

And for the 7 millionth time, no one is saying action against Hamas isn't totaklly justified.

THE CONCERN IS FOR THE NON HAMAS CIVILIANS WHO LIVE THERE.

I look forward to repeating this the next 7 million times people bleat "yeah but Hama is nasty..."

 

[Armoured]

I agree with the sentiment and overall tone of the post, but I must say that Hamas does use children and women as human shields. When you do that, you bear some culpability in their deaths along with the attackers.

It's not a zero sum situation.

Hamas certainly bears culpability for using the human shield tactic. No one is denying this. Israel bears their own culpability for choosing to inflict unacceptably high collateral damage against civilian populations in their attemp to prosecute Hamas.

Whether we like it or not, the fact that human shields are being used changes the dynamic of the situation.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

And for the 7 millionth time, no one is saying action against Hamas isn't totaklly justified.

THE CONCERN IS FOR THE NON HAMAS CIVILIANS WHO LIVE THERE.

I look forward to repeating this the next 7 million times people bleat "yeah but Hama is nasty..."

The previous poster attacked Israel for putting up a fence on the border with Gaza.

That's crazy. Gaza is run by Hamas.

Do you think Israel should allow Gaza residents free access to Israel?

 

[Rhamiel]

As if your very own church doesn't have a history just as dark.

If my neighbor was shooting his gun at my house and yard, I'd shoot back. I'd protect my wife and kids, and if the coward were to use one of his own children as a shield, so be it. That's not on me. I didn't start the shooting, but I will protect my own and end it.

what if your neighbor came over and took over a huge part of your house? access to water, living space, stuff like that?
would you be right in trying to protect your family?

because that is what is going on in the West Bank
Israel has set up illegal settlements
some of this land has access to fresh water which is a at a scarcity in that part of the world.

Israel has had these illegal settlements for YEARS and they are ongoing
until the past couple of month the rockets had stopped

so Israel is the aggressor in this conflict, with the ongoing and illegal occupation of West Bank lands

 

[Armoured]

The previous poster attacked Israel for putting up a fence on the border with Gaza.

That's crazy. Gaza is run by Hamas.

Do you think Israel should allow Gaza residents free access to Israel?

No one mentioned free access to Israel, did they? Lets try to stick with what's actually being discussed, rather than making up strawmen, shall we?

The issue wasn't "allowing free access to Israel" the issue was a blockade of vital supplies INTO Gaza.