Isn't time a measurement of motion?

[durangodawood]

It's nearly perfect. It's flawed, because humans made it, but we can agree to disagree on that if you want. For all intensive purposes it works wonders and won't be going away anytime soon, but it isn't real. It's a concept.

How do you know that humans made time any more they made, say, space?

 

[A_Thinker]

If time simply measures motion, like Earth's orbit and rotation, then wouldn't that make time a concept of imagination. By this I mean, wouldn't time be a human concept? It wouldn't exist at all!

What do you think of this?

I see time as more a 4th dimension of existence ... in addition to height, depth, and breath ...

 

[TimMcCollum]

How do you know that humans made time any more they made, say, space?

It is much more tangible to touch the concept of motion than time. I believe we can agree on that. You can touch a clock, but you're touching the motion of the hands, not time itself. The motion of the hands dictates where in time we are, but if a dog looked at the clock then he wouldn't be inside time. Dogs don't know what 3 o'clock is. This is from my idea that nothing other than humans have the concept of time.

As for Space, I'm not sure. I put my faith in God creating Her.

 

[A_Thinker]

Time is man's way of conceptualizing the motion of the heavens, which is God's Creation.

Why motion ... as opposed to speed ... as opposed to acceleration ?

Why not a measure of being ... ?

 

[TimMcCollum]

I see time as more a 4th dimension of existence ... in addition to height, depth, and breath ...

I agree that there is a fourth dimension. I believe it's motion though. Length, width, depth, motion, reproduction, displacement...I'm not sure where else it could go. It is cool to think about!

 

[durangodawood]

I see time as more a 4th dimension of existence ... in addition to height, depth, and breath ...

That conceptualization helps a lot of things fall in place.

But... there are some interesting differences between time and space. For example, you can go both forward and backward along any of the spatial dimensions with ease. Try doing that along the time "dimension".

 

[A_Thinker]

That conceptualization helps a lot of things fall in place.

But... there are some interesting differences between time and space. I mean you can go both forward and backward along any of the spatial dimensions with ease. Try doing that along the time "dimension".

Agreed. There are some differences between traversing time and space ...

 

[A_Thinker]

Why should there be that disconnect?

To me, the human concept of time is well and properly connected to the actual motion of things.

What about when things are not moving ???

 

[durangodawood]

What about when things are not moving ???

Um, when is that?

 

[JackRT]

In the macroscopic world time appears to "move" in one direction only but in the quantum world a future event can cause an event in the past. Boggles the mind doesn't it?

 

[durangodawood]

In the macroscopic world time appears to "move" in one direction only but in the quantum world a future event can cause an event in the past. Boggles the mind doesn't it?

Used to.

But I've grown accustomed to encountering concepts that dont make sense at the human scale of experience. I'm not jaded. Nor am I special. I've just come to realize and accept that common sense and many intuitions are human-scale biased.

 

[YanKee Gal]

Time is Creation. Nothing existed before then. God created days, night, day, seasons. That was all set up in a repeated motion of time sequences. So time was created for man for God is eternal and eternity is endless.

 

[durangodawood]

....days, night, day, seasons....

Those are events that happen over the time domain. They dont explain what time is.

 

[TimMcCollum]

What about when things are not moving ???

Atomically, everything is moving.

 

[TimMcCollum]

Time is Creation. Nothing existed before then. God created days, night, day, seasons. That was all set up in a repeated motion of time sequences. So time was created for man for God is eternal and eternity is endless.

God exists outside time. This doesn't mean we exist inside time. In fact, time is a concept we created. I'm not sure how else to explain my idea.

 

[TimMcCollum]

They dont explain what time is.

And there is the conundrum. What is time?

 

[A_Thinker]

Atomically, everything is moving.

True ... but I see motion as a feature of existence, rather than part of the context of existence, which is the way I see time.

So then, existence spawns motion, rather than motion spawning existence ...

 

[A_Thinker]

God exists outside time. This doesn't mean we exist inside time. In fact, time is a concept we created. I'm not sure how else to explain my idea.

I would counter that time is part of the framework of existence ... that God created. We can measure it, like we can measure space, but we did not originate it.

 

[TimMcCollum]

I would counter that time is part of the framework of existence ... that God created. We can measure it, like we can measure space, but we did not originate it.

I'm not sure how you measure time. It makes much more sense, to me, that it itself is a measurement.

 

[durangodawood]

I'm not sure how you measure time. It makes much more sense, to me, that it itself is a measurement.

"8 feet" is a measurement.
"Space" is not a measurement.

"11 hrs, 36 min" is a measurement.
"Time" is not a measurement.