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You too, its nice to see you digging into scripture, we do well on the back and forth with that wouldnt you say?
All scripture is profitable...
Yes, you really helped verify and open some stuff up for me.
I'm still trying to figure out your 'color coding'.
Ahem. The dude in the garb is a self-portrait in Lego.
That's what I really look like in real life.
One in need is key...
One who is lazy and slothful should not be rewarded for his laziness:
2 Thessalonians 3:10 KJV
[10] For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Poverty isn't a surprise.
Jesus even said that "the poor you will always have with you.."
And it isn't a challenge.
Jesus also told us what to do about the poor.
"..Preach the gospel to the poor.."
Go get em!
One in need is key...
One who is lazy and slothful should not be rewarded for his laziness:
2 Thessalonians 3:10 KJV
[10] For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
I guess so. It's pretty hard to take advantage of our little charitable organization. We can discern the scammers pretty quickly. I believe the church should be involved with charity as well. There's a reason our Lord wants us to be with the poor.
I'm sorry if i gave the impression that i don't feed the hungry.Christ also told us that we are to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give drink to the thirsty, and take in the stranger. He made it clear that if we don't do these things, we will not be in the Kingdom-...
That's what the Bible says (if you don't work you don't eat)That so many Christians see the poor as being lazy bums and making excuses to not help the less fortunate (saying "if they don't work, they shouldn't eat").
Amen.A lot of poor people work, they just don't make enough to get above the poverty level. Kids in poorer neighborhoods go to schools where they don't get as good an education and without that, they are only going to be able to get low-paying jobs. It is a vicious cycle.
True. I think this topic of poverty correlates with Christ's commandment to love your neighbor. Loving your neighbor (and your enemy) sounds easy, but for Christians, generally, it is the one of the hardest, if not the hardest commandment to follow.You'd think that by following a Savior (and the mass readings lately are all about following) who associated himself so inextricably with the poor that that's where Chrisitians would be. Sadly, I've found this not to be the case. So, I have to say that poverty is a challenge to Christianity, a challenge we've chose largely to ignore.
I ask myself, "How can this be?"
For one, Christianity is so divided right now and with the pressures each faith community experiences in finding and funding a place to worship as well as a pastor to lead them, it's no wonder that they have little resources available to help those in need.
Secondly, I wonder if it's even important to some Christian denominations that they serve those in need. I've run across attitudes of 'the deserving poor' and what not, so maybe, theologically, confronting poverty is not that important to them.
And thirdly, I've found the most prevelant charities in my area have a profit motive. That is, they've figured out how to make a career out of helping people. Sort of a 'do well by doing good' philosophy.
So, yes, poverty is a challenge to Christianity. A challenge which has gone by some, largely ignored.
What I hope you can understand and remember is that Saints reiterate what Scripture says.I have no problem with scripture just mens words I cant find there. They dont say the same thing.
Again amen on scripture
If you quoted his words more we'd really bond Tad
What I hope you can understand and remember is that Saints reiterate what Scripture says.
Maybe you haven't read enough of their words? It takes awhile for them to sink in. It took me nearly half way into the book on St. Silouan for his words to sink in and uplift, enlighten, and bring me closer to God. THat's what they do because you can read and feel the Holy Spirit in their words. St. Silouan's study, Archimandrite Sophrony, who wrote about St. Silouan said that those who cannot understand and see the Holy Spirit in the Saints' words, are lacking the Holy Spirit. Not saying you are. As I didn't think I was. Just takes a while to get used to their language, as it's so lofty, in the heavens, filled with God's grace, that sometimes it's hard to get them.I dont get their words though Dorothea, I prefer His, I hear His and can cross reference His, compare His, with other mens words I need to dig into their definitions then find how they mean a thing and then compare to Gods words find how he defines a thing and its often not the same, so I tend to cleave only to His words, but no I dont understand why they do that I value His words more then theirs or my own, but thats just as I am though.
Maybe you haven't read enough of their words? It takes awhile for them to sink in. It took me nearly half way into the book on St. Silouan for his words to sink in and uplift, enlighten, and bring me closer to God.
THat's what they do because you can read and feel the Holy Spirit in their words. St. Silouan's study, Archimandrite Sophrony, who wrote about St. Silouan said that those who cannot understand and see the Holy Spirit in the Saints' words, are lacking the Holy Spirit. Not saying you are. As I didn't think I was. Just takes a while to get used to their language, as it's so lofty, in the heavens, filled with God's grace, that sometimes it's hard to get them.
The more I read about the Saints, the closer I get to Christ. I read the scriptures about every night, and some of St. Silouan's book about every few nights.
Again, I think it's just that you are not used to their writings or really studied them in the spirit. They say everything that comes from Scriptures and often quote from them. They know Him so well and HIs Word, that whatever they say flows from their writings.They are an inspiration to me, as I see regular man can be so much like Christ.
Justice is receiving what you've earned. Charity is receiving what you haven't earned from another who has earned it because that other feels you need it. Mercy isn't justice. John Chrysostom was in error there.
*snip*
I sorta did in the beginning of my walk Dorothea, and had a book burning party (of sorts) knowing that the making of many books there is no end but am commanded rather seek out of the book of the Lord........
God's justice is mercy, as revealed by Jesus Christ in His actions among us on earth.
Plenty of the poor work; it takes more work to survive while poor than it does with sufficient income.
I sorta did in the beginning of my walk Dorothea, and had a book burning party (of sorts) knowing that the making of many books there is no end but am commanded rather seek out of the book of the Lord. Even Paul says a babe should crave the sincere milk of the word that he might grow thereby and I wasnt growing by the words of men (my head was spinning). My growth took off by ridding myself of mens stuff and consented only to his wholesome words.
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