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Whisper of Hope
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Preach the word for them Sister!!!
As our Lord Himself said, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!" (Matthew 11:15). We must remember that we are not wrestling against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places (Ephesians 6:12). This is spiritual warfare and we must, as commanded, put on the full armor of God (Ephesians 6:10-17). But the weapons we use are not of this world, but are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds (2 Corinthians 10:4). We must also remember that the Gospel is veiled to those who are perishing (2 Corinthians 4:3-4), and the message of the cross is foolishness to them (1 Corinthians 1:18). A person without the Spirit of God does not accept and cannot understand the things of God, because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14), and thus, considers the things of God to be foolishness.
The mind of an unbeliever who suppresses the truth of God (Romans 1:18-23) will become blind to the light of the Gospel, which displays the glory of Christ (2 Corinthians 4:3-4), and their thoughts will become futile and their foolish hearts will be darkened (Romans 1:21). And though they claim to be wise, they will become fools (Romans 1:22), and will say in their heart that there is no God (Psalm 14:1). So, brother, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might (Ephesians 6:10), and remember that it is not by our power or by our might, but by His Spirit, says the Lord Almighty (Zechariah 4:6). Keep fighting the good fight of faith (1 Timothy 6:12), and be a good soldier in Christ, strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus (2 Timothy 2:1-7).
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chelsea89
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Zaac if what you say is true then God created reasoning to send people to hell and you should tKe evening by some personal experience in life based on feelings not fact. Of we all did that olio would still be killing by thousands, childbirth would be horribly dangerous, women wouldn't have gained rights as equals to their male counterparts albeit different, and we'd be in a state of monarchial reigns with no say fro the people. Reasoning has enlightened a world of tolerance in which we help each other and treat each other with more respect than olden days where people reasoned exactly as you do. I'm right you're wrong deal withit. Torture, enslavement, and caste systems come with this line of reasoning.
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Zaac said:You wouldn't know cause the foundation for Islamic truth is lies
Right up there with Scientology, Mormonism and the rest of the false teachings.
Not a single one. There is One Christ and Christianity is based in HIM, not a sect. We follow Christ, not a sect.
The core beliefs of Christianity are what Christ says they are. The sects don't get a say so.
Islam differs whenever Islam wants to differ. Thus all of the fatwahs and hadiths that get written and changed to accommodate whatever brand of truth the different sects want to believe on any given day.
And you would think that you believe that because Islam focuses so much on what Muslims are doing and how the Muslim standard is often set and reset by human Muslims, that that you think Christians look to Christians as their standard.
The standard for Christians is Jesus Christ. If you ain't aligned with Him, you're wrong.
And the standard for Islam is Mohammed. What a model citizen he was
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Tariki
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Got His word and His indwelling. SO again, those who worship at the feet of false gods may not know absolute truth, but I SURE do.
Zaac, I'm beginning to see why so many Christians like yourself hang around the "World Religions" section of the Forum. There is obviously some void in your life that you are all seeking to fill, and you seek for it here, hoping to pick up some tips.
(This is the just the sort of discernment that Buddhism gives me, denied to the "untaught ordinary person" unversed in the Dharma - the canonical texts tell me this, and enlightened words are unable to lie)
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Zaac
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It ain't about what I say but about what GOD says.
Silliness. Any advancements in medicine are because The GOD of TRUTH allows for them. It's apparent that Muslims like most people who worship false gods seem to think their might is the reason for human advancement. But men have always had a god complex.
Liberal nothingness.
Gosh I don't have to be right. Jesus Christ took care of all the right. I'm just cosigning.
You're not aligned with Him so you're wrong.
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Zaac
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Zaac, I'm beginning to see why so many Christians like yourself hang around the "World Religions" section of the Forum. There is obviously some void in your life that you are all seeking to fill, and you seek for it here, hoping to pick up some tips.
(This is the just the sort of discernment that Buddhism gives me, denied to the "untaught ordinary person" unversed in the Dharma - the canonical texts tell me this, and enlightened words are unable to lie)
Physician heal thyself. Now come sit on the couch and explain why so many followers of false gods hang around a CHRISTIAN Forum. Could it be that they are looking to fill that void in their lives and that they know in their hearts, just as the word of God says, who the ONE is Who is capable of filling that void?
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chelsea89
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Or it could be to strengthen interfaith relations. Islam and Buddhism, Judaism for that matter don't say you're damned because you're a Christian so we although have a stake in your perceptions, your conversion or reversion for us isn't a must. It would be nice. So we are here to learn not fill a void.
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Tariki
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Physician heal thyself. Now come sit on the couch and explain why so many followers of false gods hang around a CHRISTIAN Forum. Could it be that they are looking to fill that void in their lives and that they know in their hearts, just as the word of God says, who the ONE is Who is capable of filling that void?
Physician, get thyself a sense of humour!
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Tariki
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Sadly, there is no point trying here. As Hans Kung (The Catholic Theologian) has said, there will be no peace on earth until there is peace between the Religions.
But sadly most are not interested in peace. They are only interested in being RIGHT with a capital R. And the sad fact is, if each has been born in another culture, the exact mentality that they display would seek to support a totally different ABSOLUTE.
And such bigotry is called "discernment".
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All4HISglory
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SanFrank said:
I don't know how to work all of this quoting stuff or I would try to organize this response according to the questions that I'm answering. So bare with me as I just simply reply in the form I know how to.
First, my comparison to the EDL to American Skinheads was exactly what I meant it to be. Like I said in my original text, from what footage I saw, the EDL reminded me of what I have seen from American Skinhead rallies. I am in no way an expert on either group, I simply went off of the footage and how the story was told. I sympathize with all human beings who I feel may be persecuted, misunderstood and mistreated. Does that mean that I sympathize with Islam and Muslims, YES. Those that fit in the category that I just described. I do not believe for 1 minute that ALL Muslims are 1 certain way. I do not believe in the false teachings of the religion of Islam but I believe in fair treatment of all human beings despite their personal beliefs, even if some of those believers don't feel that way about me.
I don't think it is fair to compare the EDL to Islamic Countries that have been rooted and grounded in their false teachings for centuries and the extreme beliefs that they act out. What you can compare is the fact that each group firmly believes in what they do and are willing to make sacrifices for the freedom of that belief. If the EDL was as established in years as Islam, I'm sure that there would be at least 1 extreme comparison to make since they are both based in an ideology that it has to be 1 way and have dedicated believers.
The show that I watched even showed the clip where the EDL refuted their association with the individual that shot and killed over 30 teens at that Summer camp, even though they showed evidence of communication from that individual with EDL leaders just days before. What's the difference from the EDL not claiming this guy who shared their beliefs from Muslims not claiming Osama Bin Laden as a true Muslim although he himself believes he is a Muslim? What I see in that is that no matter what you will always have some that have an extreme view of what they believe in. Because of that, I don't think that it is fair to group the whole based on others actions.
There are peaceful Muslims just as much as there are extreme terrorist minded Muslims that are out for blood. Even though the EDL stands firm that they are not a violent group, I bet there is at least 1 member that has violence on the mind when it comes to their cause. I don't think that 1 members violent action should overshadow the cause and purpose of the EDL. JMO. I do understand that the majority of people that do not agree with Islam being peaceful feel that the number is greater than 1. My response to that is even if 99 out of the 100 Muslims are extremist, that 1 still should not be denied their basic human rights of respect and safety from others that don't share that 1 individuals views.
If I went to a Mosque and asked that question, I would also have to go to the community centers where groups like the EDL gather and ask there too because it is not only extreme Muslims that refuse to peacefully coexist.
For the record, I am an American, born and raised and do not know what day to day life is like in any other country. I am a Veteran that has had tours in other countries but I still wouldn't use that to try to base my opinion off since the geological location and culture is not something that I was raised with so it didn't shape who I am as a person. The person that I am believes in Jesus Christ and all of His teachings and that includes love for others that do not share my beliefs.
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