Islam Islam: religion of...

Lords Man · Feb 15, 2016

Is Islam is a religion of peace or of war? The question concerns many in our world today. The problem is that the world is concerned with things of the world. Thus the most important question regarding Islam goes unaddressed. The long and the short of it is this; it matters only temporally whether the Muslim is a friend or enemy of humanity.

The Bible teaches us that there is one God, the God of Creation, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (Genesis 1-2; Exodus 3:6; Mark 12:29). The Bible teaches us that just as there is one God there is one Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5). This Mediator is the one and only way, the one and only truth, the one and only life, no one can please God or go to God except by Him (John 14:6).

Since Islam rejects the word of the Bible, especially as it regards the person and work of the Savior and Mediator, since it denies Jesus' deity and crucifixion (4:157, Yusif Ali - 19:34-35, Yusif Ali), the Muslim, in subscribing to the Koran, is deceived and eternally lost to God except he repent and believe the Gospel of God regarding His Son (Mark 1:15; Romans 1:1-5). He can live in this world as a person of peace or jihad but it will not matter. As long as he lives, and dies, as a Muslim, rejecting Christ as God the Son and the crucified, risen Savior, he is eternally condemned to everlasting destruction. His peaceful way will send him to hell just as surely as his ways of war.

GrowingSmaller · Feb 18, 2016

Does the Christian Hell involve virgins?

Limo · Feb 18, 2016

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Lords Man · Feb 18, 2016

GrowingSmaller said:
Does the Christian Hell involve virgins?

Make sense or don't comment.

Lords Man · Feb 18, 2016

Limo said:
Enemy of humanity !!!
When did we landed to earth ?

You want to know realty the peaceful religion and peaceful race ?
Do you want to know who are the real enemy of humanity ?

All what you need is a small effort to read the question and find the answer by a live not dead Conscience and a little very little fairness ....

Did we kill hundreds of thousands in crusades wars ?

How many Muslims and Jews killed in Spanish inquisition ? How many millions have been pushed to convert to the peaceful religion during this era?

How many were killed in 30 years war and all inter-Christians religious war ?

Did we killed more than 50 millions red Indians in new continentals ?

Did we salve more than 20 millions Africans and killed most of them ?

Did we commit colonisation of Africa and Asia and sucked the wealth of these people for the luxury of the empires ?

Did we killed 20 millions in first one and 50 millions in second ?

Did we kill hundreds thousands Japanese in 2nd war by atomic bomb ?

Did we kill 1.5 millions men,women, and child in any sanction like you did in Iraq?

Did we build international system to keep the poverty and hunger in the Third World Counties ?

What one God in Bible ?
God is three. Don't you believe in that ?

God of Ibrahim, Isaac, Moses, and even El-Messiah himself was one, no God the Father, no God the Son, no God the Holy Spirit.

I know some other Gods have same characteristic born from virgin, Salvation, Crucifixion, Resurrection, Trinity, changed water to wine ... and you know what, Surprisingly they're born in the same day of the Christmas, 25th December. it's called Winter solstice day.
All of the above common characteristic are by chance, Popes can swear to God it's a chance.
According to Pagans, In that day the new Sun (God the Son) is born old Sun (God the Father) is leaving .
These characteristics are there in a few Pagan religions at that time within the Roman Empire.

Our believe is more or less like El-Messiah believe,

He believed in one God,

He prayed by putting his head on land and cried to God (like Muslims),

He followed the Laws of his Era (Torah), We're following Laws of our era

He was circumstanced,

He never said three,

He didn't eat pigs,

He was abide to the Sabbath (as per his era Allah's obligatory Law),

He never asked people to worship him,

He never said I'm the God or I'm the Son God,

He never said I'll be crucified,

He never taken the cross as a symbol

He didn't say I'm Christian !!!! Did He?

He's not Christian

We're doing the same as El-Messiah, he was following Allah's Laws at his era and we're following Allah's Laws in this era told in Quran.

We're the true followers of El-Messiah.

Follow Islam, Mohammed, Allah and the Quran to your own destruction. That is all!

Eryk · Feb 18, 2016

Lords Man said:
He can live in this world as a person of peace or jihad but it will not matter.

Ethics actually does matter. As in like, supremely important. Something has gone critically wrong in a theology that disregards ethics.

Lords Man · Feb 18, 2016

Eryk said:
Ethics actually does matter. As in like, supremely important. Something has gone critically wrong in a theology that disregards ethics.

Ethics will save absolutely NOBODY!! You need to learn that.

Limo · Feb 18, 2016

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Lords Man · Feb 19, 2016

Limo said:
Do you think so ?

Historically Islam has made a big nation from nothing that crushed the biggest 2 aggressive Empires at that time. We run the world with one pole power for about one thousand years.

Islam is not self destructive. It's a motivation religion. This what history tells.

Currently, Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year especially in west.

Do you know something?

I wish you long live for 5-6 years, you'll see How Islam is doing.

It would be nice if people could read as well as write. Islam defies and denies Christ as God the Son and as Savior. They can be as progressive as they want to be. They can conquer the entire world. Their end is eternal destruction from the presence of the Lord becasue of their unbelief, PERIOD!!!!

JustOneWay · Feb 19, 2016

Lords Man said:
Follow Islam, Mohammed, Allah and the Quran to your own destruction. That is all!

Please make sense or don't comment.

Lords Man · Feb 19, 2016

JustOneWay said:
Please make sense or don't comment.

Unless you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ you will utterly perish (John 8:24). That is God's 'sense' of it!!

Eryk · Feb 19, 2016

Lords Man said:
PERIOD!!!!

You can't make something true by saying it louder.

No one feels the need to shout something they know to be true, like 2+2=4. You just say it. But other things need to be shouted loud enough to blow the other person's hair back, in a sad attempt to intimidate them.

If you want to do apologetics, you better learn how to frame an argument. Otherwise you're just one more barking lunatic on a metro train.

Lords Man · Feb 19, 2016

Eryk said:
You can't make something true by saying it louder.

No one feels the need to shout something they know to be true, like 2+2=4. You just say it. But other things need to be shouted loud enough to blow the other person's hair back, in a sad attempt to intimidate them.

If you want to do apologetics, you better learn how to frame an argument. Otherwise you're just one more barking lunatic on a metro train.

God's word is final whether you like it or not. An argument 'ad hominem' is pretty useless. If you are going to argue you better learn how.

JustOneWay · Feb 19, 2016

Lords Man said:
God's word is final whether you like it or not. An argument 'ad hominem' is pretty useless. If you are going to argue you better learn how.

AD HOMINEM

Lords Man · Feb 19, 2016

JustOneWay said:
AD HOMINEM

Yes. Its Latin for "to the man" or "to the person" and short for argumentum ad hominem. It is an attack on an argument based on an attack of the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument. It avoids the argument directly. It is often a logical fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.

JustOneWay · Feb 19, 2016

Lords Man said:
Yes. Its Latin for "to the man" or "to the person" and short for argumentum ad hominem. It is an attack on an argument based on an attack of the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument. It avoids the argument directly. It is often a logical fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.

I know exactly what it means. I was commenting about your ad hominem towards another poster.... loudly.

Eryk · Feb 19, 2016

Things that will not work in a debate:

Telling people what to believe. No one is ever going to believe something simply because you tell them to.

Declaring something to be true without the use of evidence and reason.

Shouting in person, or the frequent use of all-caps or multiple exclamation points in writing. You're just entertaining people until it gets tedious.

Warning people about hell won't work if they don't believe that hell exists. Telling people that they will find out in the future that hell is real won't work either. It will persuade no one in the present. It will accomplish nothing whatsoever, and that is why you are going to get tired of doing it.

Limo · Feb 19, 2016

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Limo · Feb 19, 2016

Eryk said:
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JustOneWay said:
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Friends and others who send me kind messages on inbox
your words are valuable advice
I shouldn't have cope with such comments
You're totally right
I quit from this thread
Thank you all

Paul K · Feb 19, 2016

Jesus spoke to peter on the night of his betrayal. Draw your sword, die by the sword. so stay your sword.

Based on this premise, Islam is a religion of "draw your sword". So far I've heard of tales where muslims actually told christians to either leave the country, convert to Islam, or die. so I think Islam is a religion of sword and people face the sword point and make a decision based on that.

Jesus taught love, forgiveness, acceptance to all.

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