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Islam Islam: religion of...

Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by Lords Man, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. Lords Man

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    Is Islam is a religion of peace or of war? The question concerns many in our world today. The problem is that the world is concerned with things of the world. Thus the most important question regarding Islam goes unaddressed. The long and the short of it is this; it matters only temporally whether the Muslim is a friend or enemy of humanity.

    The Bible teaches us that there is one God, the God of Creation, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (Genesis 1-2; Exodus 3:6; Mark 12:29). The Bible teaches us that just as there is one God there is one Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5). This Mediator is the one and only way, the one and only truth, the one and only life, no one can please God or go to God except by Him (John 14:6).

    Since Islam rejects the word of the Bible, especially as it regards the person and work of the Savior and Mediator, since it denies Jesus' deity and crucifixion (4:157, Yusif Ali - 19:34-35, Yusif Ali), the Muslim, in subscribing to the Koran, is deceived and eternally lost to God except he repent and believe the Gospel of God regarding His Son (Mark 1:15; Romans 1:1-5). He can live in this world as a person of peace or jihad but it will not matter. As long as he lives, and dies, as a Muslim, rejecting Christ as God the Son and the crucified, risen Savior, he is eternally condemned to everlasting destruction. His peaceful way will send him to hell just as surely as his ways of war.
     
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  2. GrowingSmaller

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    Does the Christian Hell involve virgins?
     
  3. Limo

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  4. Lords Man

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    Make sense or don't comment.
     
  5. Lords Man

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    Follow Islam, Mohammed, Allah and the Quran to your own destruction. That is all!
     
  6. Eryk

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    Ethics actually does matter. As in like, supremely important. Something has gone critically wrong in a theology that disregards ethics.
     
  7. Lords Man

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    Ethics will save absolutely NOBODY!! You need to learn that.
     
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  9. Lords Man

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    It would be nice if people could read as well as write. Islam defies and denies Christ as God the Son and as Savior. They can be as progressive as they want to be. They can conquer the entire world. Their end is eternal destruction from the presence of the Lord becasue of their unbelief, PERIOD!!!!
     
  10. JustOneWay

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    Please make sense or don't comment.
     
  11. Lords Man

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    Unless you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ you will utterly perish (John 8:24). That is God's 'sense' of it!!
     
  12. Eryk

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    You can't make something true by saying it louder.

    No one feels the need to shout something they know to be true, like 2+2=4. You just say it. But other things need to be shouted loud enough to blow the other person's hair back, in a sad attempt to intimidate them.

    If you want to do apologetics, you better learn how to frame an argument. Otherwise you're just one more barking lunatic on a metro train.
     
  13. Lords Man

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    God's word is final whether you like it or not. An argument 'ad hominem' is pretty useless. If you are going to argue you better learn how.
     
  14. JustOneWay

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    AD HOMINEM
     
  15. Lords Man

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    Yes. Its Latin for "to the man" or "to the person" and short for argumentum ad hominem. It is an attack on an argument based on an attack of the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument. It avoids the argument directly. It is often a logical fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.
     
  16. JustOneWay

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    I know exactly what it means. I was commenting about your ad hominem towards another poster.... loudly.
     
  17. Eryk

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    Things that will not work in a debate:

    Telling people what to believe. No one is ever going to believe something simply because you tell them to.

    Declaring something to be true without the use of evidence and reason.

    Shouting in person, or the frequent use of all-caps or multiple exclamation points in writing. You're just entertaining people until it gets tedious.

    Warning people about hell won't work if they don't believe that hell exists. Telling people that they will find out in the future that hell is real won't work either. It will persuade no one in the present. It will accomplish nothing whatsoever, and that is why you are going to get tired of doing it.
     
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  19. Limo

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    Friends and others who send me kind messages on inbox
    your words are valuable advice
    I shouldn't have cope with such comments
    You're totally right
    I quit from this thread
    Thank you all
     
  20. Paul K

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    Jesus spoke to peter on the night of his betrayal. Draw your sword, die by the sword. so stay your sword.

    Based on this premise, Islam is a religion of "draw your sword". So far I've heard of tales where muslims actually told christians to either leave the country, convert to Islam, or die. so I think Islam is a religion of sword and people face the sword point and make a decision based on that.

    Jesus taught love, forgiveness, acceptance to all.

    P
     
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