Islam doesn't condone terror

[StThomasMore]

wow, almost 1000 posts

 

[StThomasMore]

Are you a prophet? Can you identify any other new prophets of Christianity who is still living today?

benny hinn, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ-urZd2x2k&feature=fvst

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMd9ctNRjQ&feature=related

 

[Rebax]

I still say that the corrupted Bible theory is a cop out.

I won't claim the Quran is corrupted, as I don't care if it was or not. I disagree with what it has to say (when it contradicts the Torah.. if it agrees then I agree with it but only because it agrees with the Torah).

It's not a theory, it's why most christians take the bible as a piece of cake and don't mind the context much.

 

[Rebax]

No...

I have not claimed that Jesus Christ blasphemed, nor have I supported such claims.
I absolutely have no idea, whatsoever, what you are talking about.

And regarding the Jews, if the Jews would know their prophets, they would have known that the Messiah is no-one else, but God Himself.... Heck, the the temple priests even wanted to kill John the Baptist, who was a great prophet himself.... They planned his death... Do you think that God was pleased with these actions? They were afraid of the people (otherwise they would have killed John the Baptist themselves), and therefore they were cunning into planning the death of John the Baptist... And John the Baptist knew the identity of Christ....

Jesus Christ is the Word of God made flesh, as is supported by the old testament:

Isaiah, one of the greatest prophets of the Jewish era:

''Son of God'' was not only something that was used for Jesus, though you knew your bible...
"They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 7:7)"

I mean, if Trinity is the very central faith for the Christian belief, as Christians often refer to it as the "Holy Trinity". Then wouldn't you agree with me that the word itself, "Trinity", should at the very extreme least exist in the Bible?!
Otherwise, wouldn't you be following men's "rules (Mark 7:7)" of interpretations and conclusions and basing your entire destiny upon them?
We, Muslims are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is mortal and not a god so that means we deny the trinity. Even the early christianity did that, the text that was written by Jesus (pbuh) family members got banned...and also a lot of other important parts. Also some of the authers wrote the Bible from order of Kings.
The Jews also reject the trinity, in addition to the very first groups of Christianity such as the Ebonites, the Corinthians, the Basilidians, the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians never know about trinity doctrine at all. The Arians, Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (peace be upon him) as a prophet of God and against the trinity.



Peace.

 

[plenary]

wow, almost 1000 posts

Yeah, let's see the fruits of Islam since the inception of this thread:

(The list is longer, but because of limitations of word-count I am only able to paste 1/4th of it's original size, enjoy this list of the fruits of the religion of peace )

2011.03.25 Pakistan Kurram 13 8 A woman and child are among thirteen Shiites machine-gunned at point-blank range by Sunni gunmen.
2011.03.25 Afghanistan Nangarhar 2 1 Two children are successfully taken out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2011.03.24 Iraq Hilla 4 0 Mujahideen kidnap, behead and execute four young men.
2011.03.24 Pakistan Hangu 8 25 A suicide bomber rams an explosives-packed car into a police station, killing two women and six other bystanders.
2011.03.24 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 25-year-old plantation worker is shot in the head by Muslim militants.
2011.03.23 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 Islamic bombers kill a man riding in an animal cart.
2011.03.23 Israel Jerusalem 1 39 Palestinian terrorists leave a bomb at a bus stop which kills a female Bible translator and injures thirty others.
2011.03.23 Thailand Narathiwat 3 0 A married couple and a female friend are brutally machine-gunned in their own home by Muslim 'insurgents'.
2011.03.22 Pakistan Hyderabad 2 0 After yelling abuse at worshippers outside a church, a Muslim mob opens fire, killing two.
2011.03.21 Iraq Mosul 3 2 Three people are killed by a Jihad bombing.
2011.03.21 Pakistan Datta Khel 4 0 The Taliban kidnap, execute and mutilate four tribesmen.
2011.03.21 Pakistan Gwader 11 2 Islamic militants stage a rocket attack on a construction crew, killing eleven.
2011.03.21 Iraq Baghdad 1 2 Mujahideen kill a woman and wound her son and husband in a shooting attack. 2011.03.21 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 3 Four employees of a security firm are shot to death by the Taliban. 2011.03.21 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 0 Two civilians are cut down by Sunni gunmen. 2011.03.21 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 2 Boko Haram Islamists shoot a man to death in a drive-by. 2011.03.21 Nigeria Baten 4 0 Two women and two children are hacked and shot to death during a Muslim raid on a Christian village. 2011.03.21 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 A court official is murdered by Muslim militants. 2011.03.20 Nigeria Jos 2 0 Muslim extremists kill two worshippers with bombs placed at several churches. 2011.03.20 Iraq Diala 6 0 Six family members, including three children, are cut to shreads by a brutal suicide bombing at their home. 2011.03.20 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 An 18-year-old woman is abducted and executed by suspected terrorists. 2011.03.20 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two oil company employees are shot to death. 2011.03.20 Nigeria Jos 1 0 A Christian boy is shot to death by Islamic radicals. 2011.03.19 Iraq Mosul 1 1 Terrorists open fire on a construction worker and his wife. 2011.03.19 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 A bomb blast leaves three Iraqis dead. 2011.03.19 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A street vendor is cut down by Muslim gunmen. 2011.03.18 Iraq Mussayab 2 0 Two brothers are shot to death in their own home by al-Qaeda gunmen. 2011.03.18 Iraq Baiji 3 0 Three shepherds are taken down by Sunni roadside bombers. 2011.03.18 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three Thais are shot to death by Islamic militants. 2011.03.18 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 Two law enforcement officials are gunned down by Holy Warriors in separate attacks. 2011.03.17 Yemen Marib 3 0 al-Qaeda take out three policemen at a checkpoint with automatic weapons. 2011.03.16 Somalia Mogadishu 10 50 A pregnant woman is among ten civilians bleeding out following an al-Shabaab mortar attack. 2011.03.16 Thailand Marib 1 1 Muslim terrorists shoot a civilian off the back of a motorbike. 2011.03.16 Iraq Buhriz 1 1 Suspected al-Qaeda invade a home, murder a man and injure his wife. 2011.03.16 Iraq Kirkuk 2 35 A woman and her newborn baby are taken apart by a Jihad car bomb outside a hospital. 2011.03.15 Indonesia Jakarta 0 4 A bomb sent to a moderate scholar, deemed an 'enemy of Islam', injures four. 2011.03.15 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three men sitting outside an auto repair shop are riddled with bullets by Muslim 'insurgents'. 2011.03.15 Afghanistan Laghman 1 0 A civilian is killed in a roadside bombing by Sunni hardliners. 2011.03.15 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 0 The Taliban plant a bomb in a classroom, killing a teacher. 2011.03.15 Thailand Songkhla 1 1 Muslim radicals shoot a Buddhist plantation worker to death an injure his wife. 2011.03.15 Thailand Songkhla 1 0 A Buddhist teacher is murdered by Mujahideen. 2011.03.15 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Religion of Peace gunmen open fire on a tea shop, killing two Buddhist patrons. 2011.03.15 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists gun down a 69-year-old man. 2011.03.14 Afghanistan Kunduz 36 42 Four children are among three dozen innocents dismembered by a massive suicide blast at a recruitment center. 2011.03.14 Somalia Fiidow 4 9 al-Shabaab militants fire on a public bus, killing four passengers. 2011.03.14 Nigeria Plateau 6 0 Five family members are among six Christian villagers slaughtered by Muslim raiders. 2011.03.14 Iraq Diyala 11 14 Eleven Iraqi security personnel are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber. 2011.03.13 Yemen Zinjubar 1 2 al-Qaeda gunmen murder a local cop. 2011.03.13 Afghanistan Helmand 6 0 Six civilians are taken down by Taliban roadside bombers.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

Roughly 17.000 murders a year happen in the US too. People do crazy things. It isn't limited to Muslims. I can frame the incidents and statistics in such a way as to make "the Americans" look like evil people. I won't though because it would be equally misleading.

 

[plenary]

Roughly 17.000 murders a year happen in the US too. People do crazy things. It isn't limited to Muslims. I can frame the incidents and statistics in such a way as to make "the Americans" look like evil people. I won't though because it would be equally misleading.

Valid point... But the indiscriminate killing of children (although also in America also children will get murdered), but rejoicing afterwards after the killing of 2 year olds, is just plain evil.... And just that happens when for example children of Jews are murdered...
Hamas, Hezbollah, al queda, etc...
A few month ago, people from Syrian and Iran wanted to smuggle tons of semptex, via Italy into europe... And that wasn't meant for new-year celebrations...

Yeah, America isn't perfect, no country on earth is... And the fact that in America guns are allowed, is a big problem for the Americans...
But the systematic killing of certain groups, indiscriminate of age and rejoicing over that fact, one cannot get any lower than that.... (And yes, every killing of a child, woman or man is a crime.. regardless of race or religion.)


Does Islam condone terror and murder?? Yes it does... And this is verified by the fact, that approx 40%, according to some polls, support Hamas and Hezbollah, also (in smaller numbers nowadays) Al-Queda....

What does that imply? In my vision it implies, that it will only be a matter of time, before Europe, just like North Africa, the Middle East and the East (most notably India), will have their fair share of terrorism..
And it has nothing to do with race, that I personally object on a personal level of Islam, it has all to do, with the teachings and the fruits of Islam...
Was the war in Iraq justified? Was the war in Afghanistan justified? Difficult issues.... There are no winners in war... And I mourn just as well, for the Iraqis and the Afghan people, for the injustice and the pain they have had to endure....
I wish them all the best, which isn't Islam... Alas.. I wish it were.... I wish it were...
Many Muslims want sharia in the west and a great percentage also wants it for the non-Muslims, which is so very sad....

Look at thievery, what does Sharia teach us:

As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. (Qur'an 5:38)
39: If one repents after committing this crime, and reforms, GOD redeems him. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

What did Christ teach the world:

Luke 6:
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the [one] cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not [to take thy] coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask [them] not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend [to them] of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.

What do you think is a Godly law of love and which one is a human made, harsh law...

 

[FRM48]

Roughly 17.000 murders a year happen in the US too. People do crazy things. It isn't limited to Muslims. I can frame the incidents and statistics in such a way as to make "the Americans" look like evil people. I won't though because it would be equally misleading.

The difference is that the American justice system punishes the guilty.You have generalized the murder of innocents,Plenary was being specific,In Islamic countries innocent people are being killed in the name of allah,the governments in those countries allow or codone these acts through interpretations of sharia in which the killing of women and infidels are almost always justified when a muslim's honor is affected in any way.In USA it is not so,The only reason for taking the life of another is self defense,and even that is thoroughly investigated to insure that it meets the criteria for justifiable defense.

 

[plenary]

The difference is that the American justice system punishes the guilty.You have generalized the murder of innocents,Plenary was being specific,In Islamic countries innocent people are being killed in the name of allah,the governments in those countries allow or codone these acts through interpretations of sharia in which the killing of women and infidels are almost always justified when a muslim's honor is affected in any way.In USA it is not so,The only reason for taking the life of another is self defense,and even that is thoroughly investigated to insure that it meets the criteria for justifiable defense.

True...

Killing a kufar is no big issue... As Christians ans Jews (among all other non-Muslim groups) are not considered human beings in Islam. (but firewood for the fire of hell... One has to have a really twisted view of God to accept this) Most of the time murderers of kufars are not persecuted...
Right, like Christians, Jews and other non-muslims are not part of the human race... Therefore, being born into a religion, has no value... It is no feat to be born a Muslim (or Jewish or Christian or whatever), only living faith, which means living love....
How come, countries in which there were at one time many Christians (and Jews for that matter), the Christians are flocking away?? It happened in Turkey, and it is happening in Lebanon...

If one could characterize Islam with one word, perhaps it would be oppression... a haughty viewpoint of superiority, which is the complete opposite of the real laws of God, which are meekness, loving kindness and self denial....

Islam is one of the sad tragedies of the human chapter.... And it's going to bring it's sad fruits all over the world... When Muslims become numerous, they start harassing, oppressing and murdering non-Muslims and Muslims alike... First they start demanding things only they demand. Next they want to force their own laws upon the others...

We don't want your sharia laws... Cutting of hands and limbs is utter barbaric... And not of God.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

The difference is that the American justice system punishes the guilty.

Sometimes that it is the case. Less often if the guilty are rich and powerful. Much less often if they are elected to high office or run the most powerful corporations. I'm not saying it's any worse here but I think a lot of people have blinders to things like that. Certainly it's the same way in many Muslims majority countries and throughout the world for that matter.

In Islamic countries innocent people are being killed in the name of allah

In areas where religion still has a relatively strong pull you will often see evil doers and conspirators trying to make religious excuses for their actions. "It's all for God and country". Wave the flag and talk about how God is on your side. Thats just propaganda 101.

The only reason for taking the life of another is self defense

Our foreign policy and overseas military actions don't seem to follow that logic.

I just don't like this idea of using statistics and horror stories to demonize a whole population (what around 25% of the worlds population?). It reminds me of what the white supremacists do with their "facts about black crime" . Blacks only make up x% of the population but commit y% of the crime. Blacks are x% more likely to have AIDS than whites ands x% more likely to be on welfare. Be very afraid of Black people they are the enemies of good civilized folk. And so on. It's all meant to dehumanize another population. Once the demonization is accepted it's much easier for those in power to get way with bombing and killing them.

 

[FRM48]

What do military operations have to do with anything we were discussing?Waving the flag and saying God is with us is the same as killing women,children,christians and jews in the name of allah?Not all of us support our government's military interventions in others internal affair,and yet we are targets for terrorist groups bent on Global Jihad.Meanwhile those who you say we are demonizing go out in the streets of their countries cheering and handing out candy everytime a terrorist attack succeeds.As for the whole race statement,it's the same old song and dance.Frankly, I'm tired of the comparison.If you want to take the road of the Progressives and the Liberal Left in USA, be my guest.As for me,I will continue to speak up.Political Correctness is for Socialists,Facists and Communists,it has no place in a FREE SOCIETY.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

What do military operations have to do with anything we were discussing?

They have to do with killing people. That's what I was discussing. You were saying that Americans have a higher standard that we hold to regarding the taking of human life. I pointed out that the people who set our foreign policy and military policy don't seem to abide by that code.

Waving the flag and saying God is with us is the same as killing women,children,christians and jews in the name of allah?

I was talking about the use of religious and patriotic rhetoric while committing such acts. It's a common propaganda technique. Not limited to Muslims. Don't need to look any further than our last president to see that.

Meanwhile those who you say we are demonizing go out in the streets of their countries cheering and handing out candy everytime a terrorist attack succeeds.

I wasn't aware that 1.57 billion people throughout the world celebrate and hand out candy every time a terrorist attack succeeds.

 

[plenary]

I just don't like this idea of using statistics and horror stories to demonize a whole population (what around 25% of the worlds population?). It reminds me of what the white supremacists do with their "facts about black crime" . Blacks only make up x% of the population but commit y% of the crime. Blacks are x% more likely to have AIDS than whites ands x% more likely to be on welfare. Be very afraid of Black people they are the enemies of good civilized folk. And so on. It's all meant to dehumanize another population. Once the demonization is accepted it's much easier for those in power to get way with bombing and killing them.

Oh yeah? And why are the percentages of Muslims in Muslim countries so high? 90% and up? Even when the countries at one time were predominantly Christian for example? Do you think it is because Islam is so fantastic?
Why are all the Christians moving out of Lebanon? And groups of Hindu's out of Pakistan??
There isn't a more intolerant religion than Islam. It is just as intolerant as Nazism. In that regard there isn't a difference. Both are all about the love of self, which is the demonic love.
Islam itself is a crime against humanity Because if oppresses, harasses and murders other minded people and not only that, it rejoices in this fact. (that is why there isn't a word of critisism, when a two year old Jewish child's throat is slit... It's only a kuffar. How stupid can one be....) And that is the reason, why Islam is more dangerous and more evil than Nazism was. Islam is a death cult, which doesn't give a rats ass about a life, nothing about real love and therefore neither about God..... Because if one doesn't love his neighbor, it is impossible to love God, who one cannot see... (Which is Christian law...)

Political Correctness is for Socialists,Facists and Communists,it has no place in a FREE SOCIETY.

Right on....

And a democracy has one fatal flaw, which is that when there is a majority who are indoctrinated into a evil philosophy, such as Islam, the majority can force evil laws, such as the chopping of of limbs into mainstream law...
That is the reason, why Muslims may never become the majority in a country, because it will automatically lead to Sharia law, which is a total disaster, at least for non-Muslims....
As justice for non-Muslims does not exist...
In Islam, a non-Mulims is an animal, which has no rights.... Sub-human, worthless....
And that is the reason, why democracy in for example Egypt, will lead to an theocracy, in which life and freedom are despised.... Just like in Pakistan, Iran and the other Islamic piles of junk...

http://www.faithfreedom.org/article...s-and-christians-from-extinction-in-pakistan/

Islam is a total disaster.

If the Muslims become the majority in the west, the west will become as backward as the middle east currently is.. Al progress and liberty will halt and the barbarism of Islam will become the norm.... And all non-Muslims in those regions will either be expelled, forcibly converted or just be murdered...
Oh, well, they may f*ck up Europe, but the America's will be a lot harder, as there lies a ocean in between... Thank God.... And by that time, the full character of Islam will be that clear, that even the most gullible non-Muslim will understand the character of Islam...
But I have a feeling, that before this scenario will play out, there will be divine intervention, as for example the prophecy of Daniel foretells... Because allah may want to destroy Israel first, Jehova Zebaoth will not let that happen, as is foretold by the prophet Daniel...
And our prophecies will come true.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

You refernce a few issues that might be worth discussing like Christians moving out of Lebanon but then you fill the rest of your post with emotionalistic flameing about "death cults", "as bad as nazis", "barbarians", etc. ? None of the actual problems in Lebanon or elsewhere are going to be solved like that. All that does is pepetuate hatred between Christians and Muslims. Who knows maybe a Muslim just read that today and learned to despise Christians for your ill choice of terms? It's not a rational thing (for a person to take your statement as representative of what "The Christians" think) but people are often motivated more by emotion.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

Even IF what you are saying is true of the "real Islam" millions of actual Muslims don't follow that supposed "real Islam" of yours. Their Islam is differnt from your conception of what Islam is.

 

[Rebax]

Yeah, let's see the fruits of Islam since the inception of this thread:

(The list is longer, but because of limitations of word-count I am only able to paste 1/4th of it's original size, enjoy this list of the fruits of the religion of peace )

2011.03.25 Pakistan Kurram 13 8 A woman and child are among thirteen Shiites machine-gunned at point-blank range by Sunni gunmen.
2011.03.25 Afghanistan Nangarhar 2 1 Two children are successfully taken out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2011.03.24 Iraq Hilla 4 0 Mujahideen kidnap, behead and execute four young men.
2011.03.24 Pakistan Hangu 8 25 A suicide bomber rams an explosives-packed car into a police station, killing two women and six other bystanders.
2011.03.24 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 25-year-old plantation worker is shot in the head by Muslim militants.
2011.03.23 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 Islamic bombers kill a man riding in an animal cart.
2011.03.23 Israel Jerusalem 1 39 Palestinian terrorists leave a bomb at a bus stop which kills a female Bible translator and injures thirty others.
2011.03.23 Thailand Narathiwat 3 0 A married couple and a female friend are brutally machine-gunned in their own home by Muslim 'insurgents'.
2011.03.22 Pakistan Hyderabad 2 0 After yelling abuse at worshippers outside a church, a Muslim mob opens fire, killing two.
2011.03.21 Iraq Mosul 3 2 Three people are killed by a Jihad bombing.
2011.03.21 Pakistan Datta Khel 4 0 The Taliban kidnap, execute and mutilate four tribesmen.
2011.03.21 Pakistan Gwader 11 2 Islamic militants stage a rocket attack on a construction crew, killing eleven.
2011.03.21 Iraq Baghdad 1 2 Mujahideen kill a woman and wound her son and husband in a shooting attack. 2011.03.21 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 3 Four employees of a security firm are shot to death by the Taliban. 2011.03.21 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 0 Two civilians are cut down by Sunni gunmen. 2011.03.21 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 2 Boko Haram Islamists shoot a man to death in a drive-by. 2011.03.21 Nigeria Baten 4 0 Two women and two children are hacked and shot to death during a Muslim raid on a Christian village. 2011.03.21 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 A court official is murdered by Muslim militants. 2011.03.20 Nigeria Jos 2 0 Muslim extremists kill two worshippers with bombs placed at several churches. 2011.03.20 Iraq Diala 6 0 Six family members, including three children, are cut to shreads by a brutal suicide bombing at their home. 2011.03.20 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 An 18-year-old woman is abducted and executed by suspected terrorists. 2011.03.20 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two oil company employees are shot to death. 2011.03.20 Nigeria Jos 1 0 A Christian boy is shot to death by Islamic radicals. 2011.03.19 Iraq Mosul 1 1 Terrorists open fire on a construction worker and his wife. 2011.03.19 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 A bomb blast leaves three Iraqis dead. 2011.03.19 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A street vendor is cut down by Muslim gunmen. 2011.03.18 Iraq Mussayab 2 0 Two brothers are shot to death in their own home by al-Qaeda gunmen. 2011.03.18 Iraq Baiji 3 0 Three shepherds are taken down by Sunni roadside bombers. 2011.03.18 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three Thais are shot to death by Islamic militants. 2011.03.18 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 Two law enforcement officials are gunned down by Holy Warriors in separate attacks. 2011.03.17 Yemen Marib 3 0 al-Qaeda take out three policemen at a checkpoint with automatic weapons. 2011.03.16 Somalia Mogadishu 10 50 A pregnant woman is among ten civilians bleeding out following an al-Shabaab mortar attack. 2011.03.16 Thailand Marib 1 1 Muslim terrorists shoot a civilian off the back of a motorbike. 2011.03.16 Iraq Buhriz 1 1 Suspected al-Qaeda invade a home, murder a man and injure his wife. 2011.03.16 Iraq Kirkuk 2 35 A woman and her newborn baby are taken apart by a Jihad car bomb outside a hospital. 2011.03.15 Indonesia Jakarta 0 4 A bomb sent to a moderate scholar, deemed an 'enemy of Islam', injures four. 2011.03.15 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three men sitting outside an auto repair shop are riddled with bullets by Muslim 'insurgents'. 2011.03.15 Afghanistan Laghman 1 0 A civilian is killed in a roadside bombing by Sunni hardliners. 2011.03.15 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 0 The Taliban plant a bomb in a classroom, killing a teacher. 2011.03.15 Thailand Songkhla 1 1 Muslim radicals shoot a Buddhist plantation worker to death an injure his wife. 2011.03.15 Thailand Songkhla 1 0 A Buddhist teacher is murdered by Mujahideen. 2011.03.15 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Religion of Peace gunmen open fire on a tea shop, killing two Buddhist patrons. 2011.03.15 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists gun down a 69-year-old man. 2011.03.14 Afghanistan Kunduz 36 42 Four children are among three dozen innocents dismembered by a massive suicide blast at a recruitment center. 2011.03.14 Somalia Fiidow 4 9 al-Shabaab militants fire on a public bus, killing four passengers. 2011.03.14 Nigeria Plateau 6 0 Five family members are among six Christian villagers slaughtered by Muslim raiders. 2011.03.14 Iraq Diyala 11 14 Eleven Iraqi security personnel are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber. 2011.03.13 Yemen Zinjubar 1 2 al-Qaeda gunmen murder a local cop. 2011.03.13 Afghanistan Helmand 6 0 Six civilians are taken down by Taliban roadside bombers.

Sorry to call you this, but you are literally a fool. You run from discussions when you run out of baseless arguments. The ''Jihad'' you spoke about that happend are affecting muslims most...you clearly see these terrorists kill more muslims than Non-muslims. It's cleary disproving you that Islam are for terrorism. I'm from middle-east myself and most of the terrorists you spoke about have been in my homeland. They are all hated by MUSLIMS. Islamic scholars have spoke against them a lot and they're totally against it. Next time you speak about something...make sure to have something to lean your argument on...The thread is The religion Islam condone dosen't terror, yet you haven't prove anything...Just put up some reports of political fools that do things in the religions name.

 

[Rebax]

Oh yeah? And why are the percentages of Muslims in Muslim countries so high? 90% and up? Even when the countries at one time were predominantly Christian for example? Do you think it is because Islam is so fantastic?
Why are all the Christians moving out of Lebanon? And groups of Hindu's out of Pakistan??
There isn't a more intolerant religion than Islam. It is just as intolerant as Nazism. In that regard there isn't a difference. Both are all about the love of self, which is the demonic love.
Islam itself is a crime against humanity Because if oppresses, harasses and murders other minded people and not only that, it rejoices in this fact. (that is why there isn't a word of critisism, when a two year old Jewish child's throat is slit... It's only a kuffar. How stupid can one be....) And that is the reason, why Islam is more dangerous and more evil than Nazism was. Islam is a death cult, which doesn't give a rats ass about a life, nothing about real love and therefore neither about God..... Because if one doesn't love his neighbor, it is impossible to love God, who one cannot see... (Which is Christian law...)

Right on....

And a democracy has one fatal flaw, which is that when there is a majority who are indoctrinated into a evil philosophy, such as Islam, the majority can force evil laws, such as the chopping of of limbs into mainstream law...
That is the reason, why Muslims may never become the majority in a country, because it will automatically lead to Sharia law, which is a total disaster, at least for non-Muslims....
As justice for non-Muslims does not exist...
In Islam, a non-Mulims is an animal, which has no rights.... Sub-human, worthless....
And that is the reason, why democracy in for example Egypt, will lead to an theocracy, in which life and freedom are despised.... Just like in Pakistan, Iran and the other Islamic piles of junk...

Appeal to save Hindus and Sikhs and Christians from extinction in Pakistan | Faithfreedom.org

Islam is a total disaster.

If the Muslims become the majority in the west, the west will become as backward as the middle east currently is.. Al progress and liberty will halt and the barbarism of Islam will become the norm.... And all non-Muslims in those regions will either be expelled, forcibly converted or just be murdered...
Oh, well, they may f*ck up Europe, but the America's will be a lot harder, as there lies a ocean in between... Thank God.... And by that time, the full character of Islam will be that clear, that even the most gullible non-Muslim will understand the character of Islam...
But I have a feeling, that before this scenario will play out, there will be divine intervention, as for example the prophecy of Daniel foretells... Because allah may want to destroy Israel first, Jehova Zebaoth will not let that happen, as is foretold by the prophet Daniel...
And our prophecies will come true.

Stop spread your hate, instead of that reply to my previous posts where you were turned upside down and were left without any answers.

 

[plenary]

You refernce a few issues that might be worth discussing like Christians moving out of Lebanon but then you fill the rest of your post with emotionalistic flameing about "death cults", "as bad as nazis", "barbarians", etc. ? None of the actual problems in Lebanon or elsewhere are going to be solved like that. All that does is pepetuate hatred between Christians and Muslims. Who knows maybe a Muslim just read that today and learned to despise Christians for your ill choice of terms? It's not a rational thing (for a person to take your statement as representative of what "The Christians" think) but people are often motivated more by emotion.

Than please explain the difference between national-socialism and faith-socialism...

Even IF what you are saying is true of the "real Islam" millions of actual Muslims don't follow that supposed "real Islam" of yours. Their Islam is differnt from your conception of what Islam is.

Like the fact that many (some 40% in some polls) of Muslims in the west want to impose Sharia in the West? Is that perhaps the Islam you are referring to?

Sorry to call you this, but you are literally a fool.

Thanks...

 

[PHenry42]

Political Correctness is for Socialists,Facists and Communists,it has no place in a FREE SOCIETY.

On the contrary, political correctness is a universal phenomenon. And not an absolute either, but one relative to time, place and spirit of the times. It's neither leftist, fascist, socialist or communist.

Would you object to public glorification of 9/11, the Holocaust, Stalin's liquidation of capitalists, and in any way shun those who'd do it? If the answer is even the slightest yes, you too practice political correctness.

 

[StThomasMore]

''Son of God'' was not only something that was used for Jesus, though you knew your bible...
"They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 7:7)"

I mean, if Trinity is the very central faith for the Christian belief, as Christians often refer to it as the "Holy Trinity". Then wouldn't you agree with me that the word itself, "Trinity", should at the very extreme least exist in the Bible?!
Otherwise, wouldn't you be following men's "rules (Mark 7:7)" of interpretations and conclusions and basing your entire destiny upon them?
We, Muslims are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) is mortal and not a god so that means we deny the trinity. Even the early christianity did that, the text that was written by Jesus (pbuh) family members got banned...and also a lot of other important parts. Also some of the authers wrote the Bible from order of Kings.
The Jews also reject the trinity, in addition to the very first groups of Christianity such as the Ebonites, the Corinthians, the Basilidians, the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians never know about trinity doctrine at all. The Arians, Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (peace be upon him) as a prophet of God and against the trinity.



Peace.

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." - 1 John 5:7


In the bible usually "Godhead" is used. Trinity was just a newer language that they used that the Church felt would better define the hypostatic union.