Isis

[Lord Of The Forest]

Sooo... if I ever decide to become a serial killer, I should say I'm doing it for political reasons, then some will find it acceptable.

Strawman. Not all murder is political, but all terror-motivated murder is political.

 

[redblue22]

it all sounds very bad.

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[Strider1002]

Not all murder is political

No doubt! But it seems that non-political murder is universally considered wrong, whereas "political" murder is only arguably wrong.

 

[Lord Of The Forest]

I don't see any of us saying a political murder is less reprehensible than any other kind.

ISIS is a political organisation whose members use terrorism and murder. That's just the way it is, and I'm not sure it can be put any other way.

 

[Strider1002]

I don't recognize murder as a political tool. Murder is murder, and those committing it must be stopped.

 

[Rhamiel]

a terrorist army that is taking territory and holding it

we have not seen anything like this, not even Al Qaeda at its height was like this

this is a unique problem

one that also speaks to a powerful motivation in the arab imagination and represents a group that has recently been ousted from power.....

yeah, this is NOTHING like ANYTHING we have seen before

 

[Lord Of The Forest]

I don't recognize murder as a political tool. Murder is murder, and those committing it must be stopped.

I see we're not going to have a meeting of the minds, and further discussion would be fruitless. Have a good day, RJ.

 

[Cearbhall]

All the pictures they're posting of saying "Isis is here" in Chicago and in front of the White House, we just don't know if it's people being stupid or if they really are in America.

So basically, whichever it actually is, they need to hire a new marketing team...

 

[Zach91]

What do I think of these animals? Put boots on the ground and terminate every last ISIS member with extreme prejudice.

 

[Toro]

yeah, this is NOTHING like ANYTHING we have seen before

We've seen it before.

Hateful cowards that hide their face.

They may be more hateful and violent, but nothing new.

I say we let them control an area, evacuate non supporters.....

And........

 

[Zach91]

We've seen it before.

Hateful cowards that hide their face.

They may be more hateful and violent, but nothing new.

I say we let them control an area, let them push out of kill their opposition in that region.

And........

Yes, once the innocents have left, send a couple of ICBMs their way, and turn their dictatorship into glass and ashes.

 

[Lord Of The Forest]

Wow. These posts... They don't sound like something a Christian has any business saying.

 

[Toro]

Wow. These posts... They don't sound like something a Christian has any business saying.

Im a Christian, but Im not going to pretend like the world wouldnt be better off without this group on it.

You cant reach those people, reasoning is pointless. Some times people DO need to be taken out. Its not pretty, but its true. When those people enjoy evil deeds and they enjoy harming innocents, you cant change their minds over tea.

 

[HotRhymez]

I say bomb them. The only language they know is through violence and killing. Islam is not a religion of peace..we need to rid the world of these evil people.

 

[tomwhite84]

ISIS is what happens when you have a group of religious people who think it is their duty to lay down God's law, but don't realize what that law requires: perfection in thought and deed. As a result, you have sinners arbitrarily picking on some sins but not others, and chucking stones about it. Islam doesn't create better people; it just creates more rules (especially for women.)

 

[Zach91]

Wow. These posts... They don't sound like something a Christian has any business saying.

No, we should just love and tolerate them as they torture and murder innocent women, children, and men, then come to do the same to us. No need to use force to stop their crimes right? We should just turn the other cheek while they destroy the world. I'm sure Christ would be all for that right?

 

[tomwhite84]

I say bomb them. The only language they know is through violence and killing. Islam is not a religion of peace..we need to rid the world of these evil people.

St Paul said that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal.

 

[Lord Of The Forest]

Im a Christian, but Im not going to pretend like the world wouldnt be better off without this group on it.

You cant reach those people, reasoning is pointless. Some times people DO need to be taken out. Its not pretty, but its true. When those people enjoy evil deeds and they enjoy harming innocents, you cant change their minds over tea.

ISIS' activities are horrific, but to say they are unreachable, sir, is testing the arm of God. Are you familiar with Ninevah's depravity? And yet the city repented.

Certainly, God will sort out ISIS one way or another, but my reading of Christ's message in the gospels is to pray for the repentance of these lost and wayward children. Even if we cannot see an earthly result of our travail, is this legitimate reason to do differently than our Saviour said?

I say bomb them. The only language they know is through violence and killing. Islam is not a religion of peace..we need to rid the world of these evil people.

Understood and agreed. You're not the only person who wishes the Holy Father would act as the Urbans and call the faithful to battle against the infidel.

No, we should just love and tolerate them as they torture and murder innocent women, children, and men, then come to do the same to us. No need to use force to stop their crimes right? We should just turn the other cheek while they destroy the world. I'm sure Christ would be all for that right?

Well, isn't it what Christ told us to do? Unless you have signatures and avatars hidden, there's no reason in the world you can't tell this issue affects me on a personal level. I've mentioned it in the What's On Your Mind thread on several occasions.

 

[tomwhite84]

No, we should just love and tolerate them as they torture and murder innocent women, children, and men, then come to do the same to us. No need to use force to stop their crimes right? We should just turn the other cheek while they destroy the world. I'm sure Christ would be all for that right?

I see no problem in using military force in order to defend people from being murdered, but we should realize that ultimately we are in a spiritual war and bombs can't conquer the devil in the long term.

 

[Zach91]

Well, isn't it what Christ told us to do? Unless you have signatures and avatars hidden, there's no reason in the world you can't tell this issue affects me on a personal level. I've mentioned it in the What's On Your Mind thread on several occasions.

I'm not saying you don't care about the genocide victims, but all it takes for evil men to prosper, is for good men to do nothing. Personally, I would love to see the full millitary might of the United States unleashed on ISIS, and watch every last one of those murdering scumbag cowards wiped from existence. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't care if it's Christ-like or not. These vicious criminals can't hurt anyone if they're all dead.