Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
saiful-Islam-Khattab said:GOD is capable of everything, the point is he does not need to take human form.He does not need to be in his creation, that degrades him to be part of his creation.He sits on the throne and rules.He does not need our permission to do anything and he does not need family aroung him especially human family.
To be human is to be weak.Are you saying that to be human is to be evil?
Well he was tricked by Satan!Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win said:Also "insane", like Muhammad.
But when God takes a human form, He will not be weak and insane.
Take Christ for example. He was not insane as Muhammad. Because Muhammad was a man and Christ was God.
You believe in a cruel and decptive god already.azri said:When people have the idea of God can be weak, they will start thinking of God can be cruel or evil.
I didn't say you weren't a Christian and I didn't mean to imply it. That's really none of my business it's between you and God, I was just trying to answer your post. I am sorry to say that the bible is not as infallible as most Christian's think but it's more infallible than the Muslims think. It's just that if I see a word or phrase in the bible and can't find a word that means the same as or similar to it in my NASC exhaustive concordance or Strong's concordance I don't think it should be there. That part when God told Abraham to take his only son to the mountain really doesn't make sense because Abraham had 2 sons. The word for one implies beloved and that's the word they should have used and that thou lovest just sounds redundant and it's not in the concordance either. It should read take your beloved son to the mountain.Kris_J said:Really? by which criteria did I not fill in your defintion of a Christian? Its true, that I have a high respect for Islam & other non-Christian religions, & do keep an open mind about supposed "Bible Truths". I am curious how did you come to conclude I am not Christian?
So you do believe the Bible is inerrant or not?
I suspect that Mohammed's message is as much corrupted as Jesus' message by people trying to do their best, but still just human.
I dont believe that god can be weak, cruel and deceptive or evil.You believe in a cruel and decptive god already.
azri said:I dont believe that god can be weak, cruel and deceptive or evil.
No.Montalban said:He certainly chooses very very very weak people!
Somehow you do believe though that he'd allow Muhammed to make morals that are based no on some over-arching belief system, but what is relative/legal.
I would like to see them.Muslim said:I never claimed that the verses in the Bible prophecizing the prophet Muhammad's arrival were taken out completely. I said that they were there and that Christians were not realizing it. If you want me to I can post the verses in the OT which prove that there was also a covenant with the decendents of Ishmael and that God had transfered his kingdom from the decendents of Isaac to the decendents of Ishmael.
Satan was an angel before he sinned do you believe it was the will of God for him to siin? God is a Spirit john 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. The image of God is a spiritual image, we were created with that spiritual image inside us.Muslim said:While it is true that Muslims do not believe that God can be everywhere and nowhere. God is believed to have a shape and location. He is sitting on his throne above the the Seven Heavens. He is not, however considered to have a human body. There is nothing like God, and he does not resemble his creation so we cannot say that he looks like us. I think that Christians take their evidence for God resembling a human from the verse in the Bible which says that God created man in his own image. I apologize if I am wrong about this. But we Muslims take that verse to mean that God created man in his image in that we have the ability of free will just like God does. Unlike angels who do not posses this quality of being able to choose. They have to obey the commandments of God because they were created as such.
Why would that degrade Him? Sometimes I wonder if you all think loves you.saiful-Islam-Khattab said:GOD is capable of everything, the point is he does not need to take human form.He does not need to be in his creation, that degrades him to be part of his creation.He sits on the throne and rules.He does not need our permission to do anything and he does not need family aroung him especially human family.
I don't believe the Bible is inerrant. I can't quote a particular reason for it, although I admit Paul's instructions about women strike me as more from his own point of view than from God's. I just don't think God has chosen to keep his word, in all it's translations, pure. I'm sure most of it is as He wrote it, through the prophets and disciples. We are to depend on the Holy Spirit for interpretation, not how we understand it.Kris_J said:Having read most of the posts, it seems that I'd much rather have people of no vested interest in whether it was Isaac or Ishmael who was sacrificed.
Is it safe to assume that most of you here believe in an inerrant Bible or Quran? I believe the most credible & balanced view would come from a well versed liberal Christian & Muslim.
Of those who post here: How many sincerely believe that the Quran or Bible that you believe in is not inerrant?
Well speaking on behalf of weak people everywhere I'm going to have to disagree. He does indeed choose weak people. He choose's weak people from all over the world to confound the wise and strong because we are made strong in Him. This is one of the things that drew me (and keeps me) a Christian.No. He didnt choose very very very weak people.
markie said:Satan was an angel before he sinned do you believe it was the will of God for him to siin? God is a Spirit john 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. The image of God is a spiritual image, we were created with that spiritual image inside us.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?