Is Your Message Relevant?

[Uphill Battle]

I'm not sure why the assumption is immediately made, that if the message is not being transmitted in "x" form (liturgical, in this instance) that it is changing the message.

For instance, if somebody were to teach you algebra, and one teacher read out of the text only, and another taught it by singing, and another by playing a movie.... does that change the message about algebra? (It's an extreme example folks, I'm not suggesting that preachers should be travelling minstrels, nor should Christianity exist in soley the movie theater.)

I don't think so.

 

[racer]

I had never watched that show until Saturday night from a hotel room when I was flicking the channels.
It had Scot Hahn being interviewed and the first time I have ever seen him on the tele......seems he converted to the "other side" awhile back

One of my Catholic friends an few years ago sent me a Scott Hahn book. No offense to the RCs, this has nothing to do with the faith, but I found "him" to be nauseating.

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

racer;51042278]If it relates to the Gospel, you know "praise and worship," that's great! I attend a Pentecostal Church, we have a piano, drums, guitars, organ, and lot's of music. We put our hands in the air and sing, sing, sing . . . . . . My sister-in-law plays the drums. My sister, an ordained minister, is Christian rock all the way.

saw that you were pentecostal. i used to be an AOG. then i got saved.

My part about the drums and sage was really "irrelevant."

nice one. lol.

so other than music what kinds of media input and messages does your pastor preach?

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[racer]

I'm not sure why the assumption is immediately made, that if the message is not being transmitted in "x" form (liturgical, in this instance) that it is changing the message.

For instance, if somebody were to teach you algebra, and one teacher read out of the text only, and another taught it by singing, and another by playing a movie.... does that change the message about algebra? (It's an extreme example folks, I'm not suggesting that preachers should be travelling minstrels, nor should Christianity exist in soley the movie theater.)

I don't think so.

Nope, but if nobody teaches me what algebra means I can look at it all day and I most likely will never get it. If this is the case, what good does "showing" me algebra do for me?

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

I'm not sure why the assumption is immediately made, that if the message is not being transmitted in "x" form (liturgical, in this instance) that it is changing the message.

For instance, if somebody were to teach you algebra, and one teacher read out of the text only, and another taught it by singing, and another by playing a movie.... does that change the message about algebra? (It's an extreme example folks, I'm not suggesting that preachers should be travelling minstrels, nor should Christianity exist in soley the movie theater.)

I don't think so.

good thought.

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[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

Nope, but if nobody teaches me what algebra means I can look at it all day and I most likely will never get it. If this is the case, what good does "showing" me algebra do for me?

i think his point was that all of those things would be teaching you about algebra. it's just that the methods of teaching changes. what difference does the method make if the result is the same?

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[racer]

saw that you were pentecostal. i used to be an AOG. then i got saved.



nice one. lol.

so other than music what kinds of media input and messages does your pastor preach?

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He teaches that no faith is above the other. We are all sisters and brothers in Christ. Last Sunday he told us to make it our mission to go out and reach (hopefully) save one (1) soul. That if we could just bring one soul to Christ, ALL of us--think of how many could be saved (or if you're RC I guess converted applies).

 

[Uphill Battle]

Nope, but if nobody teaches me what algebra means I can look at it all day and I most likely will never get it. If this is the case, what good does "showing" me algebra do for me?

I said Taught in my post... I'm not stating that they just play a movie about algebra and leave you hanging.

the point was, the medium of delivery itself does not change the message.

 

[racer]

i think his point was that all of those things would be teaching you about algebra. it's just that the methods of teaching changes. what difference does the method make if the result is the same?

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The method is "irrelevant" if it's not done in a fashion that the student understands.

 

[racer]

I said Taught in my post... I'm not stating that they just play a movie about algebra and leave you hanging.

the point was, the medium of delivery itself does not change the message.

Oh, were you responding to my post then? If not, I do apologize . . . . .

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

What makes a better Christian? oops. there's more.

a. One who clearly understands his sinful state?
b. One who clearly understands his God given mission in life?

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[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

I have found over and over in life that it is much harder to love than it is to judge others. Judging is my default mode. Loving is much more difficult. But love is the central message of the gospel . . . not sin.

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[LittleLambofJesus]

I have found over and over in life that it is much harder to love than it is to judge others. Judging is my default mode. Loving is much more difficult. But love is the central message of the gospel . . . not sin.

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That should be preached more......

 

[Uphill Battle]

Oh, were you responding to my post then? If not, I do apologize . . . . .

nothing to apologize for, I think we cross posted each other.

 

[Aibrean]

We need equal portions.

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

don't ya think once we have learned about our sinful state, have repented, are 'in' (whatever that means) that we should move on from the elementary teachings to something that's more mature?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

don't ya think once we have learned about our sinful state, have repented, are 'in' (whatever that means) that we should move on from the elementary teachings to something that's more mature?

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Can that actually be done on the GT board

 

[PujolsNonRoidHomerHitter]

Can that actually be done on the GT board

I dare think some believe it cannot be done in this life lest they be swatted by the divine sin counter.

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[simonthezealot]

don't ya think once we have learned about our sinful state, have repented, are 'in' (whatever that means) that we should move on from the elementary teachings to something that's more mature?

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Sure scritpural teaching must be done...
Don't think that means teaching purpose driven life from the alter...
If its any consolation I have been arguing with my; wife, son, bosses, wife, and her dad a pastor about psychology vs Christianity...They all think there is a place for it in Christianity! They are wrong!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I dare think some believe it cannot be done in this life lest they be swatted by the divine sin counter.

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Perhaps that is why we are given a "counter" in Reve 2:17?

Reve 2:17 The one having an ear let him hear! what the Spirit is saying to the Out-Calleds.
To the one conquering, I shall be giving to him of the manna, of the having been hidden.
And I shall be giving him a counter/yhfon <5586>, and on the counter/yhfon <5586> a name, new, having been written, which no one has seen except the one obtaining.

Revelation 18:4 And I hear another voice out of the heaven saying "come forth! out of Her the People of Me that no ye may not being together-partaking/sugkoinwnhshte <4790> (5661) to the Sins of Her and out of the stripes/blows of Her that no ye may be receiving". [Ephes 5:11/Phillip 4:14/2 Corin 6:16-18]