Is Your Diet Causing Your Depression?

[JudyH]

This should not be underestimated. If we don't have a healthy body, we can't possibly have a healthy brain. Depression is seriously on the rise, and it could be largely a result of the poor diet we eat these days.

Years ago I read a little book by nutritionist Adele Davis that made a connection between depression and B vitamin deficiencies. The Standard American Diet is woefully inadequate when it comes to vitamin B, which is found especially in organ meats and whole grains. Since I read that book, I've tried to make it a point to take B vitamin supplements and eat whole grains regularly. I don't know for sure, but I think this may be why my depression problems have been moderate, while my sister and brother have both had major troubles with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

Here's an article on the subject, although it doesn't specifically mention B vitamins:

http://undergroundhealthreporter.com/diet-causing-depression/?utm_swu=5414

I am convinced that oatmeal has anti-depressant properties.

We should leave no stone unturned in our efforts to combat this debilitating and discouraging disease!

Take care everyone,
Judy

 

[Jeshu]

Yep I fully agree with you! I stopped consuming sugar for this was feeding my Candida, which was giving me leaky gut syndrome, which was causing my mind to spook round like mad especially at peak high time and bottom low time of my sugar intake. Life has improved a lot without Candida and leaky gut syndrome amplifying my issues.

I also use vitamin B, basically all of them, especially Niacin, B3, is really helpful for racing minds and general stress and anxiety, however it can be difficult to get the dosage right as overdosing on it can occur as I found out the hard way.

Also Zinc, 5-HTP and as much vitamin C as my gut can cope with to help absorb these substances.

It didn't heal my mental illness but it did really improve my symptoms overall.

 

[Press On]

This should not be underestimated. If we don't have a healthy body, we can't possibly have a healthy brain. Depression is seriously on the rise, and it could be largely a result of the poor diet we eat these days.

Years ago I read a little book by nutritionist Adele Davis that made a connection between depression and B vitamin deficiencies. The Standard American Diet is woefully inadequate when it comes to vitamin B, which is found especially in organ meats and whole grains. Since I read that book, I've tried to make it a point to take B vitamin supplements and eat whole grains regularly. I don't know for sure, but I think this may be why my depression problems have been moderate, while my sister and brother have both had major troubles with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

Here's an article on the subject, although it doesn't specifically mention B vitamins:

http://undergroundhealthreporter.com/diet-causing-depression/?utm_swu=5414

I am convinced that oatmeal has anti-depressant properties.

We should leave no stone unturned in our efforts to combat this debilitating and discouraging disease!

Take care everyone,
Judy

Good info......thank you.

 

[JudyH]

Yep I fully agree with you! I stopped consuming sugar for this was feeding my Candida, which was giving me leaky gut syndrome, which was causing my mind to spook round like mad especially at peak high time and bottom low time of my sugar intake. Life has improved a lot without Candida and leaky gut syndrome amplifying my issues.

I also use vitamin B, basically all of them, especially Niacin, B3, is really helpful for racing minds and general stress and anxiety, however it can be difficult to get the dosage right as overdosing on it can occur as I found out the hard way.

Also Zinc, 5-HTP and as much vitamin C as my gut can cope with to help absorb these substances.

It didn't heal my mental illness but it did really improve my symptoms overall.

Thanks Jeshu. You had Candida and cleared it up? I thought it was almost impossible to clear up Candida. That's wonderful to hear.

I recently cut way back on sugar when I realized it was aggravating my arthritis. I think my mental state has also been better since I did that. I'm certainly in less physical pain, and pain can put a person in a pretty bad funk, too.

My understanding is that we have a genetic predisposition to mental illness, but there are many factors that determine whether it will be manageable or not. It's not just life circumstances and attitudes, it's not just a chemical imbalance (which may be a chicken and egg thing anyway), it's also things like overall health, whether we have a support system, spiritual issues, etc. It needs to be treated holistically to have the best chance of recovery.

I hadn't thought about zinc, and I don't know what 5-HTP is (I'll have to look that up). I do take vitamin C regularly, and I believe it helps me almost never get sick.

Thanks for sharing your own experience with this.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Years ago I read a little book by nutritionist Adele Davis

WONDERFUL LADY !

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

In over 30 years of avid use and study,
I never saw a way to take too much B-Vitamins
except to take A LOT of just one or a couple
without taking all the others --- i.e. taking all of them works, no matter how much is taken (being water soluble, the extras are flushed out in pee) unless there is another/ some sort of metabolic problem or
other issue.....
ALL the vitamins are almost completely NON-toxic even at thousands of times the RDA,
and they ALL were listed as NON-toxic at any dose
UNTIL AFTER
it was proven how many things could be prevented or cured by them.
THEN
the drug lords quickly started [FALSELY] claiming that many of them
were "toxic" at doses ridiculously low.

Prescribed "IRON" , or even OTC iron, is the main one to be aware of,
IF it is synthetic iron. (like in baby formula and pre-natal vitamins; and some icky health drinks/ geriatric drinks) ....

For comparison to the 50,000+ DEATHS from prescription medicine the last ONE YEAR,
there have been (AMA AND FDA SITES) 25 deaths in 25 YEARS from vitamins. i.e. ONE PER YEAR... (they claim)

it can be difficult to get the dosage right as overdosing on it can occur as I found out the hard way.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I am convinced that oatmeal has anti-depressant properties.

I wonder if oatmeal has 5-HTP in it ? (careful though, don't look it up ! you might find out some GOOD NEWS ! hahahaha//// happy fishing ! )
SHALOM !

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

My understanding is that we have a genetic predisposition to mental illness, but there are many factors that determine whether it will be manageable or not. It's not just life circumstances and attitudes, it's not just a chemical imbalance (which may be a chicken and egg thing anyway), it's also things like overall health, whether we have a support system, spiritual issues, etc. It needs to be treated holistically to have the best chance of recovery.

Well,
the so-called 'genetic' issues are all "made-up" things the last century
to HIDE THE TRUTH.
We are H U M A N --- humans have genes
Levis 901 and so forth ! haha
and YHWH
created HUMANS with need for food : nutritious food. and guess/ you probably already know/ what happened to our food supply ...... (it is far far far far far far worse then anyone can imagine ! )


As for some of the other things you mentioned, yes, but much of it
cannot be disclosed nor discussed online. (literally - censorship is so strong)

 

[JudyH]

WONDERFUL LADY !

Yes, she was! Revolutionary. I truly believe her little books helped save my sanity.

 

[JudyH]

In over 30 years of avid use and study,
I never saw a way to take too much B-Vitamins
except to take A LOT of just one or a couple
without taking all the others --- i.e. taking all of them works, no matter how much is taken (being water soluble, the extras are flushed out in pee) unless there is another/ some sort of metabolic problem or
other issue.....
ALL the vitamins are almost completely NON-toxic even at thousands of times the RDA,
and they ALL were listed as NON-toxic at any dose

The one thing I did learn, I think from Adele Davis, is that if you take too much of any one of the B vitamins, it can cause an imbalance in the others. It's probably best not to focus on one particular B vitamin unless we know for sure that we are deficient, but to take a high-dose complete B-complex instead.

As for dosing, it's wonderful how much information you can find online these days! Medline has good dosing recommendations.

But I would like to hear more from Jeshu about his experience with overdosing on individual B vitamin supplements.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But I would like to hear more from Jeshu about his experience with overdosing on individual B vitamin supplements.

Adelle and the others after her,
and before her (there have been tens of thousands)
almost never
said to take one or two B-Vitamins by themselves without the others.
I have met
people who got imbalanced from taking too much of one without the others that work with it,
but their symptoms were less severe than
people
who risk their lives taking ONE , just ONE baby aspirin a day.
(for comparison)

 

[Jeshu]

Thanks Jeshu. You had Candida and cleared it up? I thought it was almost impossible to clear up Candida. That's wonderful to hear.

I recently cut way back on sugar when I realized it was aggravating my arthritis. I think my mental state has also been better since I did that. I'm certainly in less physical pain, and pain can put a person in a pretty bad funk, too.

My understanding is that we have a genetic predisposition to mental illness, but there are many factors that determine whether it will be manageable or not. It's not just life circumstances and attitudes, it's not just a chemical imbalance (which may be a chicken and egg thing anyway), it's also things like overall health, whether we have a support system, spiritual issues, etc. It needs to be treated holistically to have the best chance of recovery.

I hadn't thought about zinc, and I don't know what 5-HTP is (I'll have to look that up). I do take vitamin C regularly, and I believe it helps me almost never get sick.

Thanks for sharing your own experience with this.

Yes I got rid of my Candida, it wasn't that very hard and took about 2 months I think to complete. I stopped all sugars and yeasts, also fruit and fruit juices, apart of bananas and fresh oranges, I ate a lot of those. I also stopped alcohol, nuts and started on the Trim Healthy Mama diet, which resulted in 24 kilo loss of weight without cutting down on the amount eaten, but focuses on good food and keeping fat and carbohydrates in meals apart, so either a fat meal or a carbohydrate meal, not both mixed together into one meal. Also Yvonne's, my wife, boiled bone broth to help the healing process along. (best from grass fed cattle.) I used it in a lot of my cooking. We also started using coconut oil instead of seed pressed oils and only use real butter no margarine whatsoever, full cream milk and grow a lot of our own veggies and fruits organically.

We found the change incredible. Only the sugar was hard but well worth it. Life is very much better without sugar. My son, who struggles with A.D.H.D and also P.T.S.D stopped his sugar intake as well and is doing much better than before, as does my grandson of 7 who has A.D.H.D and possible O.C.D. His behaviour has vastly improved, everyone noticed it with him, (for he is a real hand full when on sugar, but just a challenging but good fun kid without any sugar intake.)

I think that spiritual and mental issues are completely intertwined, where we have one we have the other. Which one is first? Who knows apart of God? However I have seen incredible change in other peoples lives and also in my own when Jesus brought spiritual healing around, it sure made a lot of difference to my physical health.

When my evil voices were at their worst and had me completely divided within, I was physically sick 24/7. They thought I had an auto immune illness at the time. However when I won the battle with my evil voices my physical illness went away, one by one, and left me a physically healthy man instead of vulnerable and weakly as I was before Jesus worked His miracles of liberation from the wicked in me.

5-HTP is basically amino acid and is a general support of the central nervous system. Very good to help in my battle with insomnia, depression, racing thoughts and anxiety disorder. I recommend you try and see if you benefit from it its usage.

Great sharing experiences, like you say mental health is a holistic thing.

Have a blessed day.

 

[JudyH]

I wonder if oatmeal has 5-HTP in it ? (careful though, don't look it up ! you might find out some GOOD NEWS ! hahahaha//// happy fishing ! )
SHALOM !

I did a quick search and didn't see anything about 5-HTP and oatmeal. Will look again later. It looks like it's related to tryptophan, which is in milk. Tryptophan has soothing properties that can sometimes help us get to sleep. It would be cool to find out there is a proven basis for my theory about oatmeal!

 

[Jeshu]

The one thing I did learn, I think from Adele Davis, is that if you take too much of any one of the B vitamins, it can cause an imbalance in the others. It's probably best not to focus on one particular B vitamin unless we know for sure that we are deficient, but to take a high-dose complete B-complex instead.

As for dosing, it's wonderful how much information you can find online these days! Medline has good dosing recommendations.

But I would like to hear more from Jeshu about his experience with overdosing on individual B vitamin supplements.

When I started the Niacin I had read a report which claimed that people had given a psychotic person who hadn't slept for 3 days 3000 mg of Niacin (B3) with 2000 mg of vitamin C. I hadn't slept and was psychotic when the Niacin came in so I took 1000 mg at the time - all the way to 8000 mg in just a few days, for I read that some schizophrenic people used 18000 mg of Niacin to treat their condition.

It worked! I slept 10 hours straight for 2 nights and stopped my hallucinations dead in their tracks, but then I got sick. Really sick! My liver couldn't cope with the high dosage of Niacin and I got really unwell. Not recommended it is much worse than being sea/travel sick.

Now I take 1500 mg a day, if I take more than I get unwell. However 1500 mg helps a lot. I love Niacin it is my very best remedy and calms me right down within 30 minutes of taking 500mg of the stuff for up to 4 hours, especially the first 90 minutes, I glow red and feel all warm and like I'm resting on/in the clouds or something, an amazing experience when my mind has been going so wild and uncontrollable beforehand. (Sometimes I sneak an extra 500 mg in but usually I can't do that too often if at all because my liver can't process the niacin fast enough. Anti-histamine helps if it gets really bad!)

Peace

 

[Jeshu]

I did a quick search and didn't see anything about 5-HTP and oatmeal. Will look again later. It looks like it's related to tryptophan, which is in milk. Tryptophan has soothing properties that can sometimes help us get to sleep. It would be cool to find out there is a proven basis for my theory about oatmeal!

I found this here;https://authoritynutrition.com/9-benefits-oats-oatmeal/

Oats are loaded with important vitamins, minerals and antioxidant plant compounds. Half a cup (78 grams) of dry oats contains (5):

• Manganese: 191% of the RDI.
• Phosphorus: 41% of the RDI.
• Magnesium: 34% of the RDI.
• Copper: 24% of the RDI.
• Iron: 20% of the RDI.
• Zinc: 20% of the RDI.
• Folate: 11% of the RDI.
• Vitamin B1 (thiamin): 39% of the RDI.
• Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid): 10% of the RDI.
• Smaller amounts of calcium, potassium, vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) and vitamin B3 (niacin).

This is coming with 51 grams of carbs, 13 grams of protein, 5 grams of fat and 8 grams of fiber, but only 303 calories.

This means that oats are among the most nutrient-dense foods you can eat.

 

[JudyH]

and YHWH
created HUMANS with need for food : nutritious food. and guess/ you probably already know/ what happened to our food supply ...... (it is far far far far far far worse then anyone can imagine ! )

You're preaching to the choir here, Jeff. I've done a lot of studying on that myself over the years. Yikes.

 

[JudyH]

Now I take 1500 mg a day, if I take more than I get unwell. However 1500 mg helps a lot. I love Niacin it is my very best remedy and calms me right down within 30 minutes of taking 500mg of the stuff for up to 4 hours, especially the first 90 minutes, I glow red and feel all warm and like I'm resting on/in the clouds or something, an amazing experience when my mind has been going so wild and uncontrollable beforehand. (Sometimes I sneak an extra 500 mg in but usually I can't do that too often if at all because my liver can't process the niacin fast enough. Anti-histamine helps if it gets really bad!)

That's fascinating, Jeshu. I have heard niacin can be dangerous at high doses. It sounds like it might be helpful for racing thoughts and insomnia. I'll have to keep that in mind! I hope you're careful not to put too much stress on your liver even at the lower doses.

 

[JudyH]

I found this here;https://authoritynutrition.com/9-benefits-oats-oatmeal/

Oats are loaded with important vitamins, minerals and antioxidant plant compounds. Half a cup (78 grams) of dry oats contains (5):

• Manganese: 191% of the RDI.
• Phosphorus: 41% of the RDI.
• Magnesium: 34% of the RDI.
• Copper: 24% of the RDI.
• Iron: 20% of the RDI.
• Zinc: 20% of the RDI.
• Folate: 11% of the RDI.
• Vitamin B1 (thiamin): 39% of the RDI.
• Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid): 10% of the RDI.
• Smaller amounts of calcium, potassium, vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) and vitamin B3 (niacin).

This is coming with 51 grams of carbs, 13 grams of protein, 5 grams of fat and 8 grams of fiber, but only 303 calories.

This means that oats are among the most nutrient-dense foods you can eat.

Thank you!! Interesting that they have so much manganese, which probably isn't all that common in other foods. And if you throw in some fruit and nuts or a banana, all the better!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

note:
Disclaimer: The information presented here is for educational purposes only.
"Vitamin B-3

There are two main forms: nicotinic acid, known medically as niacin, and nicotinamide which is known medically as niacinamide. The term vitamin B-3 refers to these two and to the nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide system, NAD and NADH. NADH is the reduced form and more active than NAD. The term vitamin B-3 deficiency means a deficiency of niacin, or of niacinamide, or of nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD) or its reduced derivative NADH. No-flush niacin is inositol niacinate. It does not cause any flushing, but there is some question whether it is as effective as niacin.

Niacin is not toxic to the liver. The notion that it is, is based upon a few observations, some of which were dead wrong. Between 1940 and 1950 when the toxicity of niacin and niacinamide was studied, the LD-50 on animals was determined. The LD 50 is the amount of compound that will kill one-half of the population of animals used to test toxicity. If 100 mice are given the drug and half die that dose is the LD50; for niacin it is very high, about 4.5 grams per kilogram. This is equivalent to 225 grams (nearly half a pound) for a 110 pound female and 360 grams for a 176 pound male, or approximately 100 times as much as is normally recommended. At autopsy the animals showed elevated fatty acids in the liver."
^^ THIS does NOT mean in cases of potential ALLERGY ,
or other things present IN the supplement ,
adverse effects won't present themselves -
as always, check for allergies, and
be aware of other known and unknown ingredients.

 

[Jeshu]

note:
Disclaimer: The information presented here is for educational purposes only.
"Vitamin B-3

There are two main forms: nicotinic acid, known medically as niacin, and nicotinamide which is known medically as niacinamide. The term vitamin B-3 refers to these two and to the nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide system, NAD and NADH. NADH is the reduced form and more active than NAD. The term vitamin B-3 deficiency means a deficiency of niacin, or of niacinamide, or of nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD) or its reduced derivative NADH. No-flush niacin is inositol niacinate. It does not cause any flushing, but there is some question whether it is as effective as niacin.

Niacin is not toxic to the liver. The notion that it is, is based upon a few observations, some of which were dead wrong. Between 1940 and 1950 when the toxicity of niacin and niacinamide was studied, the LD-50 on animals was determined. The LD 50 is the amount of compound that will kill one-half of the population of animals used to test toxicity. If 100 mice are given the drug and half die that dose is the LD50; for niacin it is very high, about 4.5 grams per kilogram. This is equivalent to 225 grams (nearly half a pound) for a 110 pound female and 360 grams for a 176 pound male, or approximately 100 times as much as is normally recommended. At autopsy the animals showed elevated fatty acids in the liver."
^^ THIS does NOT mean in cases of potential ALLERGY ,
or other things present IN the supplement ,
adverse effects won't present themselves -
as always, check for allergies, and
be aware of other known and unknown ingredients.

That is interesting brother, for when I take too much niacin then I display all the symptoms of liver toxicity. E.g drowsiness, extremely weak, very nauseated and vomiting yellow green bile. Yet when I reduce the amount to 1500 mg over three times a day I have usually no problem but sometimes I do - perhaps because of some other hard to digest food taken simultaneously? It is hard to know. I do have a weak liver from years of psych medications and have had to stop taking some psych medicines because of that. I do take liver detox remedy to help my liver as much as possible, this does also help to keep the nausea and bile at bay.