Is YEC science? Is is even really a theory?

[dlamberth]

You have nothing to say?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

"Hurry home, will you?"

Why? To see the cat paw prints are still there?

 

[Kylie]

Wow.

Congratulations for talking yourself out of understanding the difference between "a world where the flood never happened and a world where it did happen but all evidence was cleaned up".

Yeah, logic tends to do that to illogical premises.

Obviously none that you would understand.

Perhaps someone else here could explain it to you?

Perhaps. I don't see anyone here jumping to support your claims though.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah, logic tends to do that to illogical premises.

Perhaps. I don't see anyone here jumping to support your claims though.

Would it matter if anyone supported my claim?

You don't understand it; so all the support in the world isn't going to help you, is it?

 

[Kylie]

Would it matter if anyone supported my claim?

You don't understand it; so all the support in the world isn't going to help you, is it?

That's a convenient way for you to justify not backing up your claims.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's a convenient way for you to justify not backing up your claims.

You have to understand it first, Kylie, or I'm just spinning my tires.

You asked a good question as usual.

What's the difference between a world without the Flood, and a world with the Flood that was divinely cleaned up.

Answer: A diminished population; specifically the giants.

What's not to understand?

If the Flood hadn't of happened, we could well-be sharing our existence with giants on the earth.

What's the difference between a Katrina Flood that never happened, and a Katrina Flood that did happen, but was cleaned up?

Answer: Eldridge Gabriel, RIP.

 

[Kylie]

You have to understand it first, Kylie, or I'm just spinning my tires.

You asked a good question as usual.

What's the difference between a world without the Flood, and a world with the Flood that was divinely cleaned up.

Answer: A diminished population; specifically the giants.

What's not to understand?

If the Flood hadn't of happened, we could well-be sharing our existence with giants on the earth.

What's the difference between a Katrina Flood that never happened, and a Katrina Flood that did happen, but was cleaned up?

Answer: Eldridge Gabriel, RIP.

You don't seem to understand my point.

In both of your answers, you say there will be giants walking the earth, 30 feet tall.

I pointed out that there are no such people at all, despite the fact that both of your possibilities say they should exist.

That means you are basing your ideas on a flawed assumption to begin with.

You have to understand it first, AV, or I'm just spinning my tires.

 

[AV1611VET]

You don't seem to understand my point.

That's probably because YOU don't understand it.

In both of your answers, you say there will be giants walking the earth, 30 feet tall.

In both of WHAT answers?

You asked what would be different?

The answer is a race of giants on the earth.

(Actually, I said a 30' neighbor, hoping you'd get the point.)

Do you see a race of giants on the earth today?

No?

Then what happened to them?

Answer: The Flood.

I pointed out that there are no such people at all, despite the fact that both of your possibilities say they should exist.

What???

The only giants I know of that came after the Flood was a family consisting of Goliath and his brothers.

Yes -- I also believe Paul Bunyan was a Nephilim.

But they are the exceptions, not the rule.

That means you are basing your ideas on a flawed assumption to begin with.

You're working very hard not to understand, and doing a good job.

I don't blame anyone else for not coming to my assistance.

I'm sure they don't want any part of this discussion.

You have to understand it first, AV, or I'm just spinning my tires.

Would you know it if I did?

 

[Kylie]

That's probably because YOU don't understand it.

I understand my answer just fine.

In both of WHAT answers?

You asked what would be different?

The answer is a race of giants on the earth.

(Actually, I said a 30' neighbor, hoping you'd get the point.)

Do you see a race of giants on the earth today?

No?

Then what happened to them?

Answer: The Flood.

And you also said that there would still be some of them left.

You said the difference was, "...the existence of the Nephilim, who were all but wiped out in the Flood. With a few exceptions."

So show me the exception.

What???

The only giants I know of that came after the Flood was a family consisting of Goliath and his brothers.

Yes -- I also believe Paul Bunyan was a Nephilim.

But they are the exceptions, not the rule.

You think Paul Bunyan was a real person? REALLY?

You're working very hard not to understand, and doing a good job.

I don't blame anyone else for not coming to my assistance.

I'm sure they don't want any part of this discussion.

And could that be because they think you are wrong, just as I do?

Would you know it if I did?

Would you know it if I understood?

 

[AV1611VET]

So show me the exception.

I already have.

Two of them by name: Goliath and Paul Bunyan.

Here's even a third one:

2 Samuel 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

Ever heard the trivia question about why David took FIVE STONES with him to slay Goliath?

The answer is that Goliath had four brothers, and should they have come after David, David would have slain them all.

 

[AV1611VET]

You think Paul Bunyan was a real person? REALLY?

Yes, really.

 

[Kylie]

I already have.

Two of them by name: Goliath and Paul Bunyan.

Here's even a third one:

2 Samuel 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

Ever heard the trivia question about why David took FIVE STONES with him to slay Goliath?

The answer is that Goliath had four brothers, and should they have come after David, David would have slain them all.

There's no real world evidence for any of them.

Try again.

 

[Kylie]

Yes, really.

Care to show me any actual evidence for him existing in reality?

 

[AV1611VET]

There's no real world evidence for any of them.

No kidding.

But had the Flood not occurred, you could very well have a 30' neighbor.

Try again.

How many tries does it take before you understand?

 

[AV1611VET]

Care to show me any actual evidence for him existing in reality?

I would have, but his blue ox ate my paperwork.

 

[Kylie]

No kidding.

But had the Flood not occurred, you could very well have a 30' neighbor.

According to you, the flood did occur and I could STILL have a 30 foot neighbour.

So that doesn't exactly count as a difference between "flood" and "no-flood," does it? And that IS what I asked you for.

How many tries does it take before you understand?

You can try to tell me that a square is a circle all you want, but it's never going to make it a circle.

 

[Kylie]

I would have, but his blue ox ate my paperwork.

So you got nothing.

Looks like you heard a story that you thought agreed with your point of view and decided that must mean the story was true.

 

[AV1611VET]

So that doesn't exactly count as a difference between "flood" and "no-flood," does it? And that IS what I asked you for.

Any other miracles you'd like to not understand the difference between?

Like the difference between a world where the Red Sea was parted, and a world where the Red Sea wasn't parted?

 

[Kylie]

Any other miracles you'd like to not understand the difference between?

Like the difference between a world where the Red Sea was parted, and a world where the Red Sea wasn't parted?

Are you going to tell me a difference which isn't really a difference for those too?

 

[dlamberth]

Yes -- I also believe Paul Bunyan was a Nephilim.

Somehow I think your joking around now.