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Then I take it you're confirming my suspicion that more atheists have God's Bible, than Christians have Darwin's book?AV, you do know that in today's day and age---at least in the U.S.----a predominant number of current "atheists" are former Christians, many of whom have read and studied good portions of the Bible, sometimes all of it.
Then I take it you're confirming my suspicion that more atheists have God's Bible, than Christians have Darwin's book?
To believe, or not to believe, that is the question?And here's the crux of MY POINT that I'm sure remains unclear: I think this whole cultural war we're presently embroiled in comes down not to the presence of a battle over origins, but over a contention involving the historicity and theological import of both The Exodus Event and The Resurrection of Jesus ...
To believe, or not to believe, that is the question?
Terrif! Something to agree on.The Bible is not an opinion
If I read this right, you're saying that those who don't end up following Christ, don't follow Him because of "epistemic deception"?But the presence of the fact that both epistemic deception on the one hand, and God's lead by His Spirit, both ALSO play a role in any one person's decision to follow Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Are you ignoring or denying everything I saidYou debate the Bible's historical significance?
If I read this right, you're saying that those who don't end up following Christ, don't follow Him because of "epistemic deception"?
If so, I agree.
I believe they are being deceived by the world's educational system.
Them naughty " academics" did the mathI do. But there is a caveat in my saying this. Maybe two.
The problem here is that this "debate" gets truncated into an Either/Or set of polarized positions that are, really, a false dichotomy. This dichotomy can be seen for what it is by anyone who has taken the time to both read the Bible AND do wide academic study. If we all did this, we would know that the "debate" can't simply be pared down to this mere dichotomy.
But I get it: a dichotomy often easily sells more pew seats in Baptist churches and in Atheist meet-ups.
That "virus" is what we call the Sin Nature.Partly. But I think epistemic deception is more insidious than simply presence of a "world educational system." It's more like a virus that infects that system and uses that system. It's not necessarily the overall system itself. See the difference? Similar to yours but a little different.
Them naughty " academics" did the math
and found out Pi is not 3.
But none of them will find that "don't steal"
or, "honor your parents" is somehow in error.
Them "naughty academics" are correct.Them naughty " academics" did the math and found out Pi is not 3.
The simplest approximation for Pi is just 3. Yes, we all know that's incorrect, but it can at least get you started if you want to do something with circles. In the past, many math books listed Pi as 22/7.
As I understand it, Hinduism was so oppressive -- (mainly with its caste system) -- that Hindus were leaving Hinduism in droves by those who started Buddhism as a "breakaway religion."(Besides, I like reading The Bhagavad Gita, The Dhammapada and the Tao Te Ching. More so than Engels/Marx's, The Communist Manifesto. The latter I do enjoy tearing apart analytically, though.............)
Them "naughty academics" are correct.
But when "them naughty academics" apply it to the Bible -- or any narrative writing -- them naughty academics are overlooking a big chunk of journalism.
Namely:
SOURCE
Occam's razor can take a hike, when it comes to the Bible, can't it?
Those who bring up Pi in an effort to discredit the Bible end up discrediting the Bible, journalistic simplicity, and Occam's razor.Occam's razor can sometimes take a hike even if the Bible isn't the object of scrutiny.
Because reality has a way of not always being simple anyway.
As I understand it, Hinduism was so oppressive -- (mainly with its caste system) -- that Hindus were leaving Hinduism in droves by those who started Buddhism as a "breakaway religion."
To stop this flow of Hindus out of Hinduism and into Buddhism, the Hindus came up with a master stroke of an idea.
They wrote the Bhagavad Gita, that tells the story -- (if I remember correctly, which I probably don't) -- of someone named Arjuna (?), who fled some battle or something, and met a Hindu that talked him into coming back into Hinduism.
Or something like that.
I'm sure I mangled the story.
But anyway, it worked.
And many Buddhists came back to Hinduism.
I dub thee the Epitome of Priority!If I was to extol an Eastern Philosphy, I'd trend toward Lao Tzu. But since I have Jesus.............well, y'know how it goes!
I don't read "spiritual" stuff, myself.Them naughty "academics" also scrutized the historical development of Eastern Philosophy and found out that Siddhartha Guatama and Lao-Tzu weren't originally divine.
But none of them will say that Buddhism or Taoism are wrong through and through. At least, as an academic............................. I wouldn't.
(Besides, I like reading The Bhagavad Gita, The Dhammapada and the Tao Te Ching. More so than Engels/Marx's, The Communist Manifesto.
The latter I do enjoy tearing apart analytically, though.............)
I don't read "spiritual" stuff, myself.
As for Marxism. I will let you take
over arguing my old uncle, late of the
Red Guard.
I won't offer to be translator though.
Don't know which point got missed thisYou're right, but you've missed the point, bro. I'm not a syncretist and I was just trying to relate with Estrid on a level she's familiar with.
I've also studied the Eastern Philosophies and Religions as a part of my Philosophy Degree, so you're adding bits I'm already am familiar with.
If I was to extol an Eastern Philosphy, I'd trend toward Lao Tzu. But since I have Jesus.............well, y'know how it goes!
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