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Some things never change.
Some things have changed too much. Even to the point of spiritual blindness.
God be gracious to me a sinner.
Wow! I never thought I would read such words of self-condemnation from you.
Why not come over to this thread and ask them thatWordsofRepentance,
Are there any Christian groups that Muslims think of as Righteous and blameless? Worthy of salvation?
God be gracious to me a sinner.
I was reading in the current events forum and a post triggered some questions about Islam. I did not want to hijack the thread, so I'm posting them here.
I know absolutely nothing about Islam or Muslims. I don't even know where they all live (or are they everywhere?). But from the sounds of your post, it seems like Islam is a religion that has different "denominations" or different [maybe political] ideologies kind of like the difference between ultra-conservative Christians versus ultra-liberal Christians. Is that right?
If that's the case, isn't the war a holy war that is intra-Islam that only involves Christians from the point of being in the wrong place (where the radicals live) at the wrong time?
Trying to answer both posts as they are similar.
First step is to define what a Muslim is. Islam is an Arabic verb, It means "doing the act of submitting to God(swt)" a person who does the act of Islam is called a Muslim (Male) Muslimah (Female)
To submit to God one must at a minimum do the 5 pillars of of faith to the best of their ability and knowledge.
There are no Central Leaders for all Muslims. We have no ordained clergy, we do not tithe and no Mosque or Imam is under any earthly authority and usually receives no outside assistance.
We have nothing that resembles excommunication as one does not "Join" Islam A person either submits to God(swt) or they don't. there is no ritual that makes a person a Muslim and no ritual we have to do nor any organization we have to become a member of.
We are very individualistic and each of us only speaks for our self. There is no organizational structure. Being Muslim is strictly between the individual and God(swt)
Those of us that are called Sunni are called so because we strive to follow the Sunnah. That is live the same type of life lived by Muhammad(saws) and his companions.
It is quite difficult to separate Islam in terms of denominations as it does not meet the Christian concepts of denomination. We all are obligated to accept everyone as a Muslim if they say they are Muslim. How ever we might express concern some one is not following Islam in a manner compatible with the Qur'an.
About 80 t0 90% of us are considered to be Sunni. I will at the moment just speak of us.
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response: They are the same deity. The different religions believe different things about him, though.
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response: They are the same deity. The different religions believe different things about him, though.
Just saying - wasn't posted by me (tturt)
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response: They are the same deity. The different religions believe different things about him, though.
Just saying - wasn't posted by me (tturt)
Itturt posted: t boils down to - Yahweh says to love Him and everyone else while Allah doesn't so they can't be the same deity.
response: They are the same deity. The different religions believe different things about him, though.
tturt: One of Yahweh's attributes is that He doesn't lie such as "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;."Titus 1:2). We look at some Scriptures and say they contradict each other or we lack understanding of them but that's on us - not Him. But the point remains He speaks truth. He wants us to love Him and others.
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response: They are the same deity. The different religions believe different things about him, though.
Just saying - wasn't posted by me (tturt)
He prophecied that in less than nine years, the Eastern Roman Empire would defeat the Persians. Victory did come, but his prophecy was 5 years short. Instead of 9 years, it was 14-16 (depending on whether you count from the retaking of the original borders or the complete defeat of Persia).The post was a little too long and too wordy for me to deal with.
Which prophecy of Mohammed failed?
3. Do you really know what the Koran claims about the crucifixion? I admit it's unclear as to what really happened but it says "it was made to appear so". Is this deceiving the people? No it's not. Jesus prayed to God the night before and God answered him. Why did he have to pray so much, huh, if he was god and knew what would happen? God saved him from death and thus he cheated death. The test was to see if the Church would make up their own man-made explanations of this - and they did. They failed the test. They made up their doctrine of a Lamb of sacrifice
He prophecied that in less than nine years, the Eastern Roman Empire would defeat the Persians. Victory did come, but his prophecy was 5 years short. Instead of 9 years, it was 14-16 (depending on whether you count from the retaking of the original borders or the complete defeat of Persia).
It would not be so bad if the prophecy had not set a deadline on itself.
The Old Testament has a 100% requirement on prophecy, so failed deadlines are death for prophets.
So is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob YHWH/YAH/YAHWEH... etc, the same God ALLAH that Islam claims to worship??
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