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Is watching "Ghost Hunters" a sin?

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Believing in ghosts is a sin in my book. Ghosts are not real nor are Ufos and so on. We do know that demons can take the shape of anything to pull us away from God. SO therefor if our focus is on supernatural stuff that isn't God, we are sinning.

Its a sin because for one it has to do with evil. And second you begin to focus on it more then God.
 
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Jayem - They go into it with all of their equipment in an attempt to disprove hauntings.. and whatever can not be disproven.. they claim to be a haunting.
In the first couple of seasons, they seemed to be wayyy more genuine and that is what first attracted me to the show because they would try and find other explanations. Now, I see that some.. but something is ALWAYS happening and I think that it is over exaggerated now.

I do like it though because of the cast members on the show, they are funny.. and I do like seeing the old buildings and hearing the history of them.
 
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we are told to test the spirits, I would conclude that this test would be to show if the spirit was evil or from God.

since Jesus mentions that He was sending One Spirit, namely the Holy Spirit, I would also conclude that the test would merely show if it was one or the other

we have no examples in scripture where a "good spirit" other than the Holy Spirit did anything to help followers of Christ

That did not really answer my question..Where in the Bible does it state that ALL spirits are evil?
 
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Jayem - They go into it with all of their equipment in an attempt to disprove hauntings.. and whatever can not be disproven.. they claim to be a haunting.
In the first couple of seasons, they seemed to be wayyy more genuine and that is what first attracted me to the show because they would try and find other explanations. Now, I see that some.. but something is ALWAYS happening and I think that it is over exaggerated now.

I do like it though because of the cast members on the show, they are funny.. and I do like seeing the old buildings and hearing the history of them.

Meaning anything they cannot explain gets tossed into the bucket of being a ghost.

Hardly science or rational.

It is then an unexplained occurance, not a ghost. Just as a UFO is an Unidentified Flying object, not a flying saucer.

The big concern with watching something like this however is the comment that it is hard ot stop. That puts it into a category of something having control of yuo, not the other way round.
 
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Believing in ghosts is a sin in my book. Ghosts are not real nor are Ufos and so on. We do know that demons can take the shape of anything to pull us away from God.

Believing in ghosts is silly and childish in my book, but nobody has to read my book but me.
Hate to break it to you but UFOs do exist. They are Unidentified Flying Objects, if you see an object flying around, and you can't identify it, guess what? You saw a UFO! Not an alien or little green men, which IMHO are far more likely and probable to exist than any ghosts, spirits or demons.

We do know that demons can take the shape of anything to pull us away from God.
Really? I didn't even know they existed at all, please show me some evidence that supports this highly doubtful claim. Are there pictures of demons?
 
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Well yeah UFOs are real in terms of it does apply to other things. I guess I was more refering the whole "aliens ufo" thing.

In terms of demons existing, they don't have a actual form that we see. The way I was told about it was that angels and demons are fighting a spiritual war, but our eyes cannot see it. So its more of they fight around us, but I assume they mean it as they are in another dimension?

They can however take forms of things that would draw our attention from God. Such as if you see a ghost, its just a demon that took form of a ghost. Or there is the fact of possession where they posses you instead. However I don't think that really happens anymore. Overall I can't explain it all or prove it really. I simply go by what the bible says or what those who have studied scripture say. It doesn't matter to me.

I will say though many of my friends believe in orbs or ghosts and refused to believe alot of times the photos/videos we see are faked. So I made my own ghost/orb pictures using nothing more then a camera. No photoshop or anything. They were astounded that my pics look just like the ones they look at. Actually the orbs thing is nothing more then a camera seeing things differently then we do (such as sometimes its dust particles). Although some claim the orbs can only be seen by a camera.
 
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Well yeah UFOs are real in terms of it does apply to other things. I guess I was more refering the whole "aliens ufo" thing.
Why are aliens so hard to believe but demons and spirits are not? The spirits of the deceased floating around us and trying to scare us -that totally exists, but creatures evolving on another planet? That's just ridiculous!

In terms of demons existing, they don't have a actual form that we see. The way I was told about it was that angels and demons are fighting a spiritual war, but our eyes cannot see it. So its more of they fight around us, but I assume they mean it as they are in another dimension?
I see. So, we can't see or hear or detect their presence in any way. Yet, we know they are fighting a war around us.
Actually, the idea of ghosts or spirits being in another dimension isn't so far fetched, in fact, I like the idea of a natural explanation for every natural phenomenon. If ghosts really exist in nature, as in physically real (for whatever that's worth) then there must be a naturalistic explanation for it.

They can however take forms of things that would draw our attention from God. Such as if you see a ghost, its just a demon that took form of a ghost. Or there is the fact of possession where they posses you instead. However I don't think that really happens anymore. Overall I can't explain it all or prove it really. I simply go by what the bible says or what those who have studied scripture say. It doesn't matter to me.
That is all speculation based on zero evidence. Assuming ghosts or demons are real, what could they possibly gain from this? Why would a demon need to turn himself into a ghost if the demon itself can haunt you?
And possession is total rubbish, I refuse to believe in demonic possession.
I find it interesting that demons don't seem to bother those who don't believe in them.

I will say though many of my friends believe in orbs or ghosts and refused to believe alot of times the photos/videos we see are faked. So I made my own ghost/orb pictures using nothing more then a camera. No photoshop or anything. They were astounded that my pics look just like the ones they look at. Actually the orbs thing is nothing more then a camera seeing things differently then we do (such as sometimes its dust particles). Although some claim the orbs can only be seen by a camera.
The reason we can't see orbs is because we don't have a flash built into our face. Even if we did, the image is only there for a fraction of a second. This is why only cameras capture 'orbs'. Not because they 'see' something we don't, they're just better at preserving the moment in time than our memory is. Orbs are nothing but dust particles in the air, reflecting the light from the flash back to the camera. You see, we can come up with perfectly reasonable explanations if we try. You really want to see some orbs, take a picture underwater. For some reason millions of these 'spirits' seem to just hang out underwater.
 
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Why are aliens so hard to believe but demons and spirits are not
For one aliens don't exist because the bible says this is the only planet with life (although there is speculation on that). Second spirits as a christian means whats inside you, the thing that goes to heaven. Not spirits as in ghosts. Thats the worlds definition of spirits.

The only supernatural things that exist are God, angels and demons. However in the bible there are some lesser things like cherubs and stuff like that. But those are in heaven.

Yet, we know they are fighting a war around us.
Again its based on what the bible says. Although we don't know if its literal or not. As in are the literally fighting around us or does it just mean a spiritual battle as in demons tempting us to sin and angels saying "No stop!".

Actually, the idea of ghosts or spirits being in another dimension isn't so far fetched, in fact,
Well thats why I use the idea of dimensions because I know us geeks and nerds know about dimensions. God for example is not in this dimension as we know it. Hence we cannot see him physically. Lets skip the thing about believing in invisible men thing.

That is all speculation based on zero evidence.
As opposed to the evidence that proves ghosts and aliens are real? o_O

Why would a demon need to turn himself into a ghost if the demon itself can haunt you?
He/she/it doesn't do it to haunt you. Thats not a demons purpose. As christian we are to focus on God. So demons have been around since earth was formed so they know that we believe in anything blindly sometimes. So they will take the form of a ghost to lure someone away from focusing on God. Thus you will start spending you time looking up ghost videos, reading books about them...etc. This removes you from being focused on God.

So its about side tracking you, nothing else. Just as some would say allah is just a concept that demons put in the hearts of someone so they would create a religion around allah. Thus again it draws you away from christianity and God.

And possession is total rubbish, I refuse to believe in demonic possession.
I only believe it happened during biblical times. I don't think it really happens now. Thats my opinion though.

I find it interesting that demons don't seem to bother those who don't believe in them.
They don't have to transform into anything at all to attack you. Have you had sex before marriage? Done drugs? Gotten drunk? Hated someone? and so on. If you have then while it was you in the end doing it. Those urges are demons (for lack of better terms) whispering to you to do things not of the Lord.

Example I had sex before marriage. I felt the battle in my body of the holy spirit saying (not literally a voice) pushing me to not have sex. But I felt a bigger urge from a demon to have sex. It felt like I was hearing "Come on, just once... God won't notice!". Its why I gave in to things. A better word is temptation. Demons are great at tempting us. Now your response might be "Wanting to have sex is normal!" or "I choose to get drunk!". Yes you did. And yes we do have urges. But demons and angels have deeper power to push us away/towards these things. Ultimately leaving it up to us to do them or not. Call it persuasion.

Again to you sex isn't a big deal. But to God it is. Hence why non-christians think what we call sinning is ok. I will say I don't think demons try as hard to go after those are living in alot of sin since they have them hooked. However if you started to question your life and thought about chrsitianity... you better believe they will attack you. Many who have become christians and has sinful lifestyles say its feels like a war going on in their head. Like theres two sides tugging at you. Hence spiritual warfare.
 
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For one aliens don't exist because the bible says this is the only planet with life (although there is speculation on that). Second spirits as a christian means whats inside you, the thing that goes to heaven. Not spirits as in ghosts. Thats the worlds definition of spirits.

Well, the bible says a lot of things. It also says the world was created in 6 days and man was made from dirt. What would these ancient people have known about aliens? They thought the stars, moon and sun were actually in the sky and that the sky was some sort of solid dome around the earth. I doubt they knew much in regards to astrobiology.
Ghosts are the spirits of the deceased. You know, the thing that floats up to heaven. The only other definition I know of spirits is alcohol. So what's the fundamental difference between a ghost and a spirit? If they are, in fact, different.


The only supernatural things that exist are God, angels and demons. However in the bible there are some lesser things like cherubs and stuff like that. But those are in heaven.
Oh! Right, how could I be so glib? Of course the bible says it, so it must be true!
I believe there is no supernatural, if there is a god, he's a part of our natural world.

Again its based on what the bible says. Although we don't know if its literal or not. As in are the literally fighting around us or does it just mean a spiritual battle as in demons tempting us to sin and angels saying "No stop!".
I'm gonna say, it's figurative speech. Probably a metaphor.


Well thats why I use the idea of dimensions because I know us geeks and nerds know about dimensions. God for example is not in this dimension as we know it. Hence we cannot see him physically. Lets skip the thing about believing in invisible men thing.
I really like the idea of God or even spirits living in other dimensions but I don't know how factual that really is, part of me will always dismiss the supernatural. It's just how I am.


As opposed to the evidence that proves ghosts and aliens are real? o_O
No, I'm saying there is no evidence for demons turning into ghosts to push people away from God. That is a ridiculous assumption. And there is evidence that suggests life could in fact evolve on any other planet with conditions similar to the earth. This is completely plausible, and I find it very interesting that we might not be alone in this universe.


He/she/it doesn't do it to haunt you. Thats not a demons purpose.
Ok.
So they will take the form of a ghost to lure someone away from focusing on God.
Why?

Thus you will start spending you time looking up ghost videos, reading books about them...etc. This removes you from being focused on God.
Good thing I find the entire subject of ghosts as total rubbish, I have no reason to look up videos about things that don't exist.

So its about side tracking you, nothing else. Just as some would say allah is just a concept that demons put in the hearts of someone so they would create a religion around allah. Thus again it draws you away from christianity and God.
I'm pretty sure Muslim wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that about Christianity. You shouldn't about Islam. People's beliefs are a very personal thing believe it or not. (No pun intended)

They don't have to transform into anything at all to attack you. Have you had sex before marriage?
Yes
Done drugs?
Yes
Gotten drunk? Hated someone?
Yes, I've done all those things. I'm human.

If you have then while it was you in the end doing it. Those urges are demons (for lack of better terms) whispering to you to do things not of the Lord.
I think we need better terms.

Example I had sex before marriage. I felt the battle in my body of the holy spirit saying (not literally a voice) pushing me to not have sex. But I felt a bigger urge from a demon to have sex. It felt like I was hearing "Come on, just once... God won't notice!". Its why I gave in to things. A better word is temptation. Demons are great at tempting us. Now your response might be "Wanting to have sex is normal!" or "I choose to get drunk!". Yes you did. And yes we do have urges. But demons and angels have deeper power to push us away/towards these things. Ultimately leaving it up to us to do them or not. Call it persuasion.
I guess, until I see some evidence that suggests these demons are causing this, I would have to say these things are perfectly natural for a human being to feel. Are you sure it was the demon saying "come on" and not the girl? If sex is so sacred, why do animals do it?

Again to you sex isn't a big deal. But to God it is. Hence why non-christians think what we call sinning is ok.
Actually, sex is a big deal, and it should be to everyone engaged in it. Whether premarital or post, sex is ultimately the beginning of life and there can be big consequences for it. But it is not unnatural to want to have sex. Quite the opposite actually, I think Christians are the unnatural ones, wanting to shun such a beautiful act.

I will say I don't think demons try as hard to go after those are living in alot of sin since they have them hooked.
However if you started to question your life and thought about chrsitianity... you better believe they will attack you. Many who have become christians and has sinful lifestyles say its feels like a war going on in their head. Like theres two sides tugging at you. Hence spiritual warfare.
It seems like they don't do anything to those who don't believe they exist.
I don't think about Christianity when I question life, I think about God. God has no religion. He is not Christian or Jewish, or Muslim or Buddhist or anything else. These are human inventions. That is why I am a humanist. To me, the most fascinating subject in the universe is humanity. We truly are a special race in that we understand so much about the world around us. This simple idea trumps all religion in my honest opinion. Imagine if you had to live your life as sea sponge. I wouldn't trade being a 'deeply flawed' human for anything in the world.
You say it's a war going on? Then consider me 'Switzerland'
 
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Meh. The whole "I need evidence!" thing. I like evidence/facts to but sometimes you have to realize there are some things bigger that just can't be explained by science. And lets face it, we are just humans. How can we claim to know the answer to everything (aside from 42). Just like when it comes to fossil dating and so on. People say its correct just "because it is!". How do you know that?

A human who doesn't know everything created a machine that gives us dates based on what we do know. How is that enough to claim it must be right? I've pointed it out before but science has been wrong so many times through history that I don't believe everything it says. The earth isn't flat, lobotomies don't fix people, we CAN fly. When science knows for sure that it knows everything. Then I will believe some of its far fetched ideas.

Example people say God isn't real because they can't see him, they need to see him to believe hes real. Why with your big bang theory where is the evidence its real? Do you have a picture? A video? Oh wait, you just go by theories and guessing. >.> Science demands evidence but yet lacks evidence for alot of what it says. I've heard that science is now saying darwin's theory may be flawed. Something that scientists said was 100% true. I guess they spoke to soon. ^.^

Lastly, I often hear atheists tell me "Christians can't think outside the box!". Which makes no sense since its the opposite way around. How is believing we were created by nothing/explosion outside the box? Its like saying "I farted because I was gassy!". How is that somehow logical. Its like hearing a really basic answer.

To me thinking outside the box means to be creative, something that may be not common thinking. Something that is just bigger then you can imagine. The story of Genesis seem to be very outside the box. And really there are some who think the big bang could line up with God creating the universe. After all he did it in a few days times. Of course the only difference is how old the universe is. Another thing that science just guesses on and expects people to believe without actually 100% factual evidence.

Thinking about it I should become a scientist. After careful analysis I'm going to say the T-Rex could reach the age of 1,000! After more analysis I am claiming the T-Rex fell to earth as space junk, hence why they existed. See how easy it is to make silly claims. Its sad that scientist that make such claims get paid alot to just guess things. You can hire a group of toddlers to make such guesses. To be fair though I really think scientists come together, write down their guesses and shove them into a jar. Then the winner is randomly picked from it!

I can see it now!:
Scientist: Please pick the winner for us Bob!
Bob: ::reachs in and pulls it out:: ::hands it to scientist::
Scientist: The winner and answer to the question of "What is the suns internal tempature?" is.... Donkey Kong!...wait a sec... who wrote Donkey King down??? :(

Anywho since I don't care for endless/pointless debating since I got a life outside the forum (somewhat) I'll just leave everyone with the basic idea of how everything came into being:
atheism.jpg


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On a side note, if God is not in our realm so to speak then how can science claim he isn't real? Unless you have explored tot he edge of the universe and every realm (so to speak) you can't say God is not real.
 
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Meh. The whole "I need evidence!" thing. I like evidence/facts to but sometimes you have to realize there are some things bigger that just can't be explained by science. And lets face it, we are just humans. How can we claim to know the answer to everything (aside from 42). Just like when it comes to fossil dating and so on. People say its correct just "because it is!". How do you know that?
There are lots of things we once thought were inexplicable; the weather, disease and disorders, the movement of the stars and planets, flight etc. etc..... But because some of us never took "Goddidit!" as an good enough answer, we now understand these things. No thanks to faith. I never get why people say; "we're just humans" humans are the most fascinating animal to ever walk the earth. If you don't see that, I feel very sorry for you.
I don't really know about radio carbon dating so I'm not the best person to ask. I'm not a geologist or a paleontologist so I'm not really qualified to question their methods. They went to school for it, so they must know what they're talking about. Are you a geologist or paleontologist? Do you know of a better way to date fossils?

A human who doesn't know everything created a machine that gives us dates based on what we do know. How is that enough to claim it must be right? I've pointed it out before but science has been wrong so many times through history that I don't believe everything it says.
Meh. The whole; "science has failed before so...." thing. Actually, it's humans how fail, not science itself. Which is why religion can't be infallible, it's a human invention, in case you didn't know.

The earth isn't flat
No it's not

lobotomies don't fix people
I guess it depends who's getting a lobotomy;)

we CAN fly.
Yes we can, thanks to men of science like the Wright Bros. and all the engineers who developed the modern airplanes we use today.

Why with your big bang theory where is the evidence its real?
Big Bang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you have a picture?
for what it's worth,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/WMAP_2010.png

Oh wait, you just go by theories and guessing. >.> Science demands evidence but yet lacks evidence for alot of what it says. I've heard that science is now saying darwin's theory may be flawed. Something that scientists said was 100% true. I guess they spoke to soon. ^.^
And I'm sure you just love that, don't you? You relish in human failures. Sad really. I also see you don't understand what a theory is, or the idea that nothing is 100% for certain.


Lastly, I often hear atheists tell me "Christians can't think outside the box!". Which makes no sense since its the opposite way around.
So how are you any different calling them the same names?

Its like saying "I farted because I was gassy!". How is that somehow logical.
How is this illogical? Makes perfect sense to me. I think you need to re-read what you typed there.

To me thinking outside the box means to be creative, something that may be not common thinking.
Right, because adhering to the same story from 3000 years ago is totally original and fresh. You are so inventive with your theories about the 6 day creation..... Now I see why atheists say that.

Something that is just bigger then you can imagine.
Look up General Relativity. This one theory completely changed the way we see the world.

The story of Genesis seem to be very outside the box.
Maybe if I were an uneducated farmer in Mesopotamia 3000 years ago I'd think that. To me outside the box is saying the Earth goes round the Sun when clearly all the visual evidence suggests the opposite. That is thinking outside the box.

And really there are some who think the big bang could line up with God creating the universe.
Like me, for one.
After all he did it in a few days times.
Which seems awfully long for an 'omnipotent' being. The Big Bang took less than 1 second, the rest slowly developed over the past 15 billion years. Much better than; "Goddidit!"

Of course the only difference is how old the universe is. Another thing that science just guesses on and expects people to believe without actually 100% factual evidence.
You don't have to believe it. It isn't vital to survival, but is a nice fact to know about the universe we live in.

Thinking about it I should become a scientist. After careful analysis I'm going to say the T-Rex could reach the age of 1,000! After more analysis I am claiming the T-Rex fell to earth as space junk, hence why they existed. See how easy it is to make silly claims. Its sad that scientist that make such claims get paid alot to just guess things. You can hire a group of toddlers to make such guesses. To be fair though I really think scientists come together, write down their guesses and shove them into a jar. Then the winner is randomly picked from it!

I can see it now!:
Scientist: Please pick the winner for us Bob!
Bob: ::reachs in and pulls it out:: ::hands it to scientist::
Scientist: The winner and answer to the question of
No, the sad thing is your complete misrepresentation of the scientific method. Now I know our schools have failed us. I learned this simple concept in the 5th grade.
I also don't think scientists make as much money as you think they do. They certainly don't make more than the incompetent politicians we have. And do so much more for us too.

"What is the suns internal tempature?" is.... Donkey Kong!...wait a sec... who wrote Donkey King down??? :(
If you're gonna make an insult, the least you can do is to do it properly.

Anywho since I don't care for endless/pointless debating since I got a life outside the forum (somewhat) I'll just leave everyone with the basic idea of how everything came into being:
atheism.jpg
Grabbing at strawmen I see.

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On a side note, if God is not in our realm so to speak then how can science claim he isn't real? Unless you have explored tot he edge of the universe and every realm (so to speak) you can't say God is not real.
Science, first off, makes no claim in regards to the existence of God, you are thinking of atheists -another straw man argument. Get your ists straight!
 
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Meh. The whole "I need evidence!" thing. I like evidence/facts to but sometimes you have to realize there are some things bigger that just can't be explained by science. And lets face it, we are just humans. How can we claim to know the answer to everything (aside from 42). Just like when it comes to fossil dating and so on. People say its correct just "because it is!". How do you know that.
the refrain of someone who can't handle people not just swallowing nonsense.
other than a special pleading about the supernatural, what other things are "too big for science" can you name one? thing is, if things you are claiming exist and affect us, we should be able to detect them, which means they can be subject to scientific study, supernatural forces seem to either refuse to be or don't exist to be studied.
either way they pretty much are the same thing.
this is just a cop-out and attack on science for helping to refute your beliefs.
i mean come on, go learn about dating methods please, they have real reasons for why scientists support the methods.


A human who doesn't know everything created a machine that gives us dates based on what we do know. How is that enough to claim it must be right? I've pointed it out before but science has been wrong so many times through history that I don't believe everything it says. The earth isn't flat, lobotomies don't fix people, we CAN fly. When science knows for sure that it knows everything. Then I will believe some of its far fetched ideas.
go read about what supports dating methods please :doh:, dating methods with regards to the earth use isotopes and their halflives to determine the age.
the difference is, science gets more right over time , your religion is always wrong when it comes to observations of reality. scientists never said the earth was flat, people believed it for a long time but scientists never claimed it was.
:doh: really? oh okay so you know nothing about lobotomies, they do work in limited cases.
what scientist said we couldn't fly? you are just making stuff up now. considering your lack of knowledge about those "farfetched" ideas, i doubt you would even then, then again this is the typical double-standard of creationists.



Example people say God isn't real because they can't see him, they need to see him to believe hes real. Why with your big bang theory where is the evidence its real? Do you have a picture? A video? Oh wait, you just go by theories and guessing. >.> Science demands evidence but yet lacks evidence for alot of what it says. I've heard that science is now saying darwin's theory may be flawed. Something that scientists said was 100% true. I guess they spoke to soon. ^.^
geez wikipedia could give you the information, there is tons of it, but i doubt you really care.
just because you lack the desire or interest in finding the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist, i search for evidence of god, but the only "evidence" is the stuff after i believe already, not before.
uh dude, darwin didn't know about DNA! of course it was flawed, no one uses darwins theory, there is this thing called the "modern synthesis" it replaced darwin's stuff 60 years ago. if you think there is a single scientist who would say a theory is 100% true, then i have beach front property to sell you on the moon.


Lastly, I often hear atheists tell me "Christians can't think outside the box!". Which makes no sense since its the opposite way around. How is believing we were created by nothing/explosion outside the box? Its like saying "I farted because I was gassy!". How is that somehow logical. Its like hearing a really basic answer.
how is believing like the majority of the world is "thinking outside the box" and no one who knows what they are talking about says we were created by nothing, or an explosion.

To me thinking outside the box means to be creative, something that may be not common thinking. Something that is just bigger then you can imagine. The story of Genesis seem to be very outside the box. And really there are some who think the big bang could line up with God creating the universe. After all he did it in a few days times. Of course the only difference is how old the universe is. Another thing that science just guesses on and expects people to believe without actually 100% factual evidence.
i see no thinking here, only you spewing creationist propaganda and fallacious unreasoning.
genesis was not outside the box other than being a polemic against other religions. here is the gist of genesis one: "your gods are stupid, we have one god who created all the stuff you think are gods! worship our god because he made it all! " that was pretty much it, still is.
you have no clue what the evidence is, please educate yourself.

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i vote poe, or troll.
no one could pack so much junk creationist propaganda in one post.
 
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I didn't read your response because after awhile all this gets boring. I use to spends months going back and forth with non believers about various subjects. Just a wasted of time since everyone thinks they are right. Afterall the hardest thing for a person to do is admit their opinion may be wrong.
 
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I didn't read your response because after awhile all this gets boring. I use to spends months going back and forth with non believers about various subjects. Just a wasted of time since everyone thinks they are right. Afterall the hardest thing for a person to do is admit their opinion may be wrong.

And irony meter going, going....gone
 
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I didn't read your response because after awhile all this gets boring. I use to spends months going back and forth with non believers about various subjects. Just a wasted of time since everyone thinks they are right. Afterall the hardest thing for a person to do is admit their opinion may be wrong.

I guess that's the easier thing to do than to actually engage in a debate.
 
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