Is war moral?

[freezerman2000]

This is an interview of a WW2 vet...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-37829618

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No. War is immoral. War is not moral.

YHWH'S CHILDREN are "harmless as doves",
even when "sheep led to the slaughter" (daily).

 

[freezerman2000]

Did you watch the video?

 

[freezerman2000]

Was the American Civil War moral?it freed countless people..and countless innocent people suffered because of it.
The point I think Ian makes is that one side starts off morally right..to protect the victims of the original aggressor's actions..but after time,it only becomes a fight for survival..both sides will commit atrocities,even if they think they are in the right.

 

[freezerman2000]

No. War is immoral. War is not moral.

YHWH'S CHILDREN are "harmless as doves",
even when "sheep led to the slaughter" (daily).

Were the Crusaders God's children? Were they "harmless as doves?"

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Did you watch the video?

No. Didn't have to to answer the TITLE question ---
the video doesn't change anything, just verifies it.

For example, from the site the video is about>>>
The Ayrshire resident spoke of the futility of war, saying that both sides wanted to be winners, but "there are no winners in war".

Mr Forsyth told BBC Scotland's Lisa Summers: "

We joined the army, boys of our age,

we thought we were going to change the world - we didn't. It is still the same.

We still have concentration camps, starvation,

people looking for a safe home to bring up their youngsters.

But selfishness and greed are still there."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Were the Crusaders God's children? Were they "harmless as doves?"

No, not at all. They were abominably evil in YHWH'S SIGHT.

(Individual objectors, faithful remnant IF THERE WERE ANY, did what is right and harmed no one.)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The point I think Ian makes is that one side starts off morally right

If they started out right in YHWH'S EYES and by HIS WORD,
they
would never have started out to raise a weapon against another man.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I did not watch the video but I will say this, in a fallen world sometimes war has to be and the fact of war is that non-combatants die. It is just that way.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I did not watch the video but I will say this, in a fallen world sometimes war has to be and the fact of war is that non-combatants die. It is just that way.

Yes, that is "how it is", in the world,

but not by nor with YHWH'S disciples.

 

[dogs4thewin]

No. War is immoral. War is not moral.

YHWH'S CHILDREN are "harmless as doves",
even when "sheep led to the slaughter" (daily).

So do you have an issue with people defending you?

 

[freezerman2000]

And Hitler would have walked all over them...was Hitler Moraly right?
I do not believe that God would want to see Hid chosen world wide suffer like Hitler's victims or Japan's victims in Asia did...research the rape of Nan King.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yes, that is "how it is", in the world,

but not by nor with YHWH'S disciples.

The fact is that non-combatants die in war, and yes I do support Christians' rights to serve. In fact, the ONLY reason I did not join myself is because my health ( for a number of reasons meant I was not fit, BUT you can bet that if the war came here I would do my darnest to be a combatant.

 

[freezerman2000]

No. Didn't have to to answer the TITLE question ---
the video doesn't change anything, just verifies it.

For example, from the site the video is about>>>
The Ayrshire resident spoke of the futility of war, saying that both sides wanted to be winners, but "there are no winners in war".

Mr Forsyth told BBC Scotland's Lisa Summers: "

We joined the army, boys of our age,

we thought we were going to change the world - we didn't. It is still the same.

We still have concentration camps, starvation,

people looking for a safe home to bring up their youngsters.

But selfishness and greed are still there."

Watch the video.....then answer the question.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Watch the video.....then answer the question.

My answer is still the same, and is based on YHWH'S Revelation in HIS WORD thru Y'SHUA:
This testimony from the video site merely affirms and confirms what YHWH says all along:

"The Ayrshire resident spoke of the futility of war, saying that both sides wanted to be winners, but "there are no winners in war".

Mr Forsyth told BBC Scotland's Lisa Summers: "We joined the army, boys of our age, we thought we were going to change the world - we didn't. It is still the same. We still have concentration camps, starvation, people looking for a safe home to bring up their youngsters. But selfishness and greed are still there.""

 

[dogs4thewin]

My answer is still the same, and is based on YHWH'S Revelation in HIS WORD thru Y'SHUA:
This testimony from the video site merely affirms and confirms what YHWH says all along:

"The Ayrshire resident spoke of the futility of war, saying that both sides wanted to be winners, but "there are no winners in war".

Mr Forsyth told BBC Scotland's Lisa Summers: "We joined the army, boys of our age, we thought we were going to change the world - we didn't. It is still the same. We still have concentration camps, starvation, people looking for a safe home to bring up their youngsters. But selfishness and greed are still there.""

so does that mean that you would be OK with what would have happened without certain wars.

 

[freezerman2000]

No, not at all. They were abominably evil in YHWH'S SIGHT.

(Individual objectors, faithful remnant IF THERE WERE ANY, did what is right and harmed no one.)

They were going to war to defend Christendom from the followers of Allah...and you say the were wrong for doing so in God's eye?

Their intentions were true,but their ensuing actions were atrocious..

 

[dogs4thewin]

They were going to war to defend Christendom from the followers of Allah...and you say the were wrong for doing so in God's eye?

Their intentions were true,but their ensuing actions were atrocious..

Otherwise, it would be hard to spread the word. Note, I did not say it could not be done.

 

[dogs4thewin]

No. War is immoral. War is not moral.

YHWH'S CHILDREN are "harmless as doves",
even when "sheep led to the slaughter" (daily).

You did not tell me if you would have an issue with someone using lethal force to defend you?

 

[John Hyperspace]

Philosophically, I feel that it must be a question of, intent. What is the intent? For good, or, for evil? That will determine the ethical morality of the action. Personally, I can't see myself ever being involved in a carnal war. But if I bring the idea down to a personal level; suppose I see a man abusing a child, heeding none of my pleas to cease, about to kill the child, and I have a gun. Would I raise the gun and kill the man before he could further harm the child? I feel that I would. Would it be immoral for me to do so? I don't think it would be. I pray I'm never put into such a predicament. At best, war would be a last resort effort against those that would do harm to others.

But if we were to blanket all war as immoral, wouldn't this mean the Lord commanded immoral acts in the old testament?