Is War A Sin?

[Jonteel]

For those carry the bayonet, I support you.

Out spake Spake brave Horatios, the captain of the Gate. To every man upon this earth,
death comes soon or late. And, how may man die better, than facing fearful odds. For the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his Gods.

No greater love hath any man.

 

[julian the apostate]

jim m<<Yep.
Revelations 20.7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison ...

yea yea i know

i just wasnt sure if you were still an advocate of chiliasm from your aog days
(i like your posts by the way)

He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

 

[OZZY3118]

listen, civilians die during war. its inevtiable. there is no way in he double hockey sticks that out troops used chemical weapons i a area that would have harmed civillians. after wwII our goverment adopted a never again policy wich means, WE WILL NEVER USE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AGAIN!!!! get overit. our troops are over there putting their life on the lines so that a pychcatioc madman dosent pull another hitler on the world. if any saddam would have been the next hitler i dont care what any of you holier than thou hipocrates think. There over there doing there jobs and what are ou people doing?? sitting here degrading the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!! they could be on here reading what you pepole are saying. Just be glad this isnt the U.S.S.R. You could be shot for saying bad things abou the goverment. oh wait a second, Saddam did the very same thing. Oh but we shouldnt have gone over there and took him out of power huh?? Get Your heads out of you butts and open your eyes. If Iraqis didnt want a democracy than why did 72% or all elegible voters go out and vote?!?! Why did thousand upons thousands of Iraqis risk there lives(40 something died minD you) to go and vote on... wait a minute, A DEMOCRTAIC GOVERMENT!!!!!! Thousands were turned away because they ran out of ballots. does that sound like a country that dosent want a democratic goverment?? dont think so. Anyone that dosent like it, GO TO FRANCE WITH THE OTHER WHITE FLAG WAVING HIPPIES.

 

[OZZY3118]

Another thing. How can war be a sin? it cant be. were the crusades a sin? no. and why is that? beause we thought we were better than the muslims and tried to impose our beleifs on people that were doing just fine on their own. that is very hypocritical. in one instance war is a sin but when its to our benifit it's not?? its one our the other not both

 

[adamdavid]

Anyone that dosent like it, GO TO FRANCE WITH THE OTHER WHITE FLAG WAVING HIPPIES.

Or maybe, since we have American citizenship and are entitled to the same free speech you are, we can continue to live here peacefully expressing the opinion that our government is not infallible and we believe it is making a mistake... Even though that may mean being insulted by people like you...

Oh, and waving a white flag doesn't automatically make one a hippie...

 

[adamdavid]

Another thing. How can war be a sin? it cant be. were the crusades a sin? no. and why is that? beause we thought we were better than the muslims and tried to impose our beleifs on people that were doing just fine on their own. that is very hypocritical. in one instance war is a sin but when its to our benifit it's not?? its one our the other not both

Okay, wait... what are you trying to say??? The crusades were a good thing??? Or was that sarcasm? Care to perhaps clarify whatever point it was you were attempting to make? I'm quite confused...

 

[~RENEE~]

Ozzy apperently you have not read all the postings but not everyone is against the war. Before you chew off everyone's head read the other postings you might be surprised. By the way CHILL.

 

[theywhosowintears]

God led His people into battle Many times.

so where do some Christians get the (unbiblical) idea that God doesn't agree with wars?

God is AT WAR with the devil.

It is better to fight for justice then to live in peace with injustice- M.L King Jr

 

[theywhosowintears]

For those carry the bayonet, I support you.

Out spake Spake brave Horatios, the captain of the Gate. To every man upon this earth,
death comes soon or late. And, how may man die better, than facing fearful odds. For the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his Gods.

No greater love hath any man.

I have a pocket sized copy of that poem at home it was given as a gift and its dated 1903.

Very awesome poem the language is so great and emotive... (I had to consult a dictionary on some of the meanings though)

 

[adamdavid]

God led His people into battle Many times.

so where do some Christians get the (unbiblical) idea that God doesn't agree with wars?

If God comes down and tells me that this war is okay, I'll believe it. Until then, it's a matter of trusting the judgement of the fallible humans who got us into it... and to be honest, I occasionally have problems accepting their judgement...

God is AT WAR with the devil.

True, but we are not God... And fighting the devil is absolutely okay... Killing innocent humans is NOT (IMHO, anyways...)

It is better to fight for justice then to live in peace with injustice- M.L King Jr

Ummm, just to let you know, you just quoted a man who is known for being a huge advocate of NONVIOLENCE... His way of fighting injustice never involved killing innocent individuals... in fact, it didn't even involve physical aggression towards those handing out the injustice... He fought injustice by taking it calmly and showing the world that he was above it... and by teaching others to do the same...

 

[JimB]

How do you spell 'Christian warmonger'? How do you pronounce 'oxymoron'?
\o/

 

[JimB]

Sure, God loves war. God is love. He loves to see people blown to bits, napalmed to an ash, shot full of holes, bombed into oblivion, children left parentless, tortured, hated, left destitute and homeless. Yeah, that’s the God I want to serve (he said facetiously).

Sometimes I wonder what planet I am on.

Jim \o/

 

[soldout]

How do you spell 'Christian warmonger'? How do you pronounce 'oxymoron'?
\o/

It depends Jim. How do you spell "politically correct manipulator"? And how do you pronounce "dictator"?

 

[OZZY3118]

I wasnt saying that everyone was against the war. if anyone took offense to anything i said i am sorry i just dont like hearing this liberl bs hearing these people say some of this stuff like were gassing towns and stuff when there is no way that is remotly true. and no i am not saying that the crusades were good. but that was supposedly "GODS WILL" but yet its a sin to kill.

 

[adamdavid]

How do you spell 'Christian warmonger'? How do you pronounce 'oxymoron'?
\o/

Sure, God loves war. God is love. He loves to see people blown to bits, napalmed to an ash, shot full of holes, bombed into oblivion, children left parentless, tortured, hated, left destitute and homeless. Yeah, that’s the God I want to serve (he said facetiously).

Sometimes I wonder what planet I am on.

Jim \o/

Ya know, Jim, for a good ol' southern republican, you have some fairly liberal anti-war feelings (yes, it's a compliment! )

 

[JimB]

It depends Jim. How do you spell "politically correct manipulator"? And how do you pronounce "dictator"?

What do you think I am saying, soldout? I don’t have a clue what you are driving at.

Jim \o/

 

[adamdavid]

I wasnt saying that everyone was against the war. if anyone took offense to anything i said i am sorry i just dont like hearing this liberl bs hearing these people say some of this stuff like were gassing towns and stuff when there is no way that is remotly true. and no i am not saying that the crusades were good. but that was supposedly "GODS WILL" but yet its a sin to kill.

Well, nice to know that you weren't for the crusades... yet you seem to be for this war... I would venture to say that God frowned seriously on the church when they were killing innocent people just because they disagreed with them... And I would venture to say that God frowns on every innocent death which has occurred (/will occur) as a result of this war.

But then, that's just my "liberl bs" opinion... take it for what its worth...

Blessings...
~AD

 

[Shalia]

This American thinks we are wrong to be there. But now that we're THERE, I've stopped protesting, or being upset, or anything because all we can do now is clean up our mess, pray our troops don't get hurt any further, pray that democracy takes hold there, and pray that it happens QUICKLY.

But did I want us to go to war? Not in the least. I am still not happy about it, but protesting after the fact only harms the troops.

 

[~RENEE~]

Well, nice to know that you weren't for the crusades... yet you seem to be for this war... I would venture to say that God frowned seriously on the church when they were killing innocent people just because they disagreed with them... And I would venture to say that God frowns on every innocent death which has occurred (/will occur) as a result of this war.

But then, that's just my "liberl bs" opinion... take it for what its worth...

Blessings...
~AD

We're not out there purposely killing the inocent young man we are there trying to help these people get completely free from a murderous tyrant that was and his followers still are taking innocent lives. For the first time in those peoples lives Adamdavid they are now experiencing freedom because we are there. Freedom cost something it cost Jesus his life he died for our freedom. Our soldiers are dying for the Iraqis freedom. No greater hath any man than he lay down his life for a friend.

 

[adamdavid]

We're not out there purposely killing the inocent young man we are there trying to help these people get completely free from a murderous tyrant that was and his followers still are taking innocent lives. For the first time in those peoples lives Adamdavid they are now experiencing freedom because we are there. Freedom cost something it cost Jesus his life he died for our freedom. Our soldiers are dying for the Iraqis freedom. No greater hath any man than he lay down his life for a friend.

I'm not saying freedom and democracy are bad things, I'm saying war is a bad thing. It's great that there are Iraqis who now have the right to vote. That being said, however, it is not great that there are deplorable numbers of Americans and Iraqis who are dead now because of this fight...

It would be great if I could go along like nothings wrong and believe that somehow the end justifies the means, but I can't. Being a "Patriotic American" would be a whole lot easier if I could approve of everything my government does, but I can't. My conscience just won't let me...

Blessings...
~AD