Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego...?

[Neogaia777]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego a good or bad thing, many draw their identity from it...

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[SkyWriting]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego a good or bad thing, many draw their identity from it...
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That could be true in the general sense.

 

[Locutus]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego a good or bad thing, many draw their identity from it...

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Yes, I think so. Or perhaps not ego, so much as no longer indulging the idea that others notice everything you do. This concept - that what we do/say/think matters significantly to others - is definitely a by-product of either youth, or arrested development.

This stuff is also influenced by culture. Look at Korea, for example. They retain a childlike dependence upon elders and authority well into adulthood, and are pathologically concerned with the opinions of others (as per children). Some may look at that regard it as a positive for social cohesion, and in a few minor ways that might be true. But a glance north shows what can happen in a culture of arrested development. That childlike dependence upon the approval of authority can be exploited horribly. That stuff can only happen in a culture which demonises emancipation - aka, maturity.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego?

No, one's ego is a good thing. People without egos are slaves or wallflowers.

I think that maturity is found in understanding how one's ego relates in a healthy way to everyone and everything else.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Noxot]

ego is a good thing, unless it is bad. you cant get rid of your ego, then what would God love?

people sometimes use the term "ego" to define the lower, evil parts of a person. evil is irrational and maturity is sanity. Christians would probably call the ego the 'flesh'. some greeks might just call it the 'soul' as opposed to the 'mind', the mind is the same as the spirit in christianity. so in spiritual life there is a coming together of the self into a developed personality deeply connected to reality, to self, and to God. in the fallen state the soul is separated from the spirit and in spiritual growth the person becomes whole again or is going in that direction. in the fallen state the soul is determined from without and the soul is chained down by things that can overcome it. spiritual life is a birth and a growing and expanding of inner life, of having a self that we find beneath the 'surface of the ocean' of reality.

in this diving we find things deeply personal but we also find a deep unity. we see the surface in a different way. things are more connected, we experience reality more than we used to.

the flesh is the spirit too, the flesh is the seed or baby of it. in natural life our body develops, so part of maturity also comes from the bodies natural growth.

 

[juvenissun]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego a good or bad thing, many draw their identity from it...

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God Bless!

You may need to use an example to illustrate what your "ego" means.
Then your question would be more clear.

 

[durangodawood]

The worst problems are caused by people with poorly formed egos. They are constantly over-asserting their weak ego in an attempt to compensate.

 

[Neochristian]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego?

That's an interesting idea. Cheers.

 

[quatona]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego a good or bad thing, many draw their identity from it...

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God Bless!

Please define "ego", for purposes considering your question.

 

[FireDragon76]

This stuff is also influenced by culture. Look at Korea, for example. They retain a childlike dependence upon elders and authority well into adulthood, and are pathologically concerned with the opinions of others (as per children).

North Korea is a police state that tortures and kills people, it has little or nothing to do with Confucianism or traditional Korean values. Japan has a very similar culture and yet it's a democracy.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Please define "true age."

 

[BadHabit]

Someone once told me that the ego is how a person sees themselves through the eyes of other people. That has always stuck with me.

 

[Neogaia777]

No, one's ego is a good thing. People without egos are slaves or wallflowers.

I think that maturity is found in understanding how one's ego relates in a healthy way to everyone and everything else.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Example please?

 

[Neogaia777]

Please define "true age."

That's what were trying to do here in this thread, any more thoughts? have your own opinion? If so, please, "share"...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Please define "ego", for purposes considering your question.

I need help with that, anyone?

I.D. or identity in life early on in this world is drawn from ego before one is "saved", then their to "put off the old personality, die to your prior self that was based on ego, and put on, or adopt the new personality or identity after being saved and redeemed, but what is the new personality based on, where does it find it's identity? In Christ?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

ego is a good thing, unless it is bad. you cant get rid of your ego, then what would God love?

people sometimes use the term "ego" to define the lower, evil parts of a person. evil is irrational and maturity is sanity. Christians would probably call the ego the 'flesh'. some greeks might just call it the 'soul' as opposed to the 'mind', the mind is the same as the spirit in christianity. so in spiritual life there is a coming together of the self into a developed personality deeply connected to reality, to self, and to God. in the fallen state the soul is separated from the spirit and in spiritual growth the person becomes whole again or is going in that direction. in the fallen state the soul is determined from without and the soul is chained down by things that can overcome it. spiritual life is a birth and a growing and expanding of inner life, of having a self that we find beneath the 'surface of the ocean' of reality.

in this diving we find things deeply personal but we also find a deep unity. we see the surface in a different way. things are more connected, we experience reality more than we used to.

the flesh is the spirit too, the flesh is the seed or baby of it. in natural life our body develops, so part of maturity also comes from the bodies natural growth.

Example of how ego can be a good thing please?

 

[Noxot]

Example of how ego can be a good thing please?

it depends on what you mean by ego. if personality was a bad thing in and of itself then being human is a bad thing.

 

[com7fy8]

emancipation - aka, maturity.

I am satisfied that real freedom is not only in having one's own will free, but in becoming mature.

I think maturing includes getting wise to how I can be wrong, and become able to relate in love.

Christians would probably call the ego the 'flesh'.

Yes - - this is what I call the "selfish self". In my case, what has helped me is to stop welcoming opportunities to criticize and look down on people; and stop supposing I am the great counselor the whole Christian world has been waiting for. As I get into caring about people, instead, I find myself being in a better quality of peace and goodness and rest, in me, so I am younger and newer . . . as ego goes and I grow And this is emancipating so I am free from my own self nonsense.

 

[Neogaia777]

it depends on what you mean by ego. if personality was a bad thing in and of itself then being human is a bad thing.

How do you define or explain ego?

 

[Hieronymus]

Is true age, or maturity determined by the loss of ego? Is ego a good or bad thing, many draw their identity from it...

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God Bless!

I.m.o. our ego IS our identity.
"Ego" means "me, the I (myself), first person singular.", it's Latin.
Because of New Age Buddhism influences in (also in modern psychology), the word has a bit of a negative connotation to it and is often used as a negative thing.
Its use today resembles somewhat the Biblical 'sinful nature of the flesh'.

But the I, our ego must not be lost, because that is death: You, your "I myself" is lost.

Our ego, we should turn form the 'sinful nature of the flesh' to God, under the New Covenant God makes with us.
The Law of the New Covenant is Love, Agape, for God and for fellow man.
Agape is meant to be between God and man, between man and God.
Within YHWH Elohim (God) there is Agape between the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, and maybe i could add the Angel of God, the Name and Melchizedek to it also.
The general absence of Agape within earth's population is the cause of immorality. (i.m.o.)