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So would then be mastectomies, appendectomies, hysterectomies...
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Actually the perception of appearances is subjective. The idea that there is the mutilation of body parts is an objective fact.
Again, definitions. There is a difference between childhood and adulthood, my example still stands.I'd disagree. I'd say a child is someone pre-puberty. During puberty you are normally a pre-teen and a teen.
It isn't just about thinking your something though. It's deeper than that. Very young children can show signs of it, because they act differently.
No, but even if I did I still wouldn't be a Zebra, regardless. My opinion does not determine reality. Truth exists outside our ability to grasp it or not. So, even if I think I am a woman if I have male genetalia, male DNA, male brain proportions (the sizes of sections of the brain in men and women is different) and male hormonal levels, then I am a man, contrary to my false opinion.If you eat grass, are always on your hands and knees, and never talk... then perhaps mentally you are like a Zebra (though I doubt that's actually possible).
Well, maybe long division is not simple to you, some things are more difficult for other people. However, for 99.9% of people it is very cut and dry and apart from sophistry and redefining age old terms and understandings, the issue is rather straight forward. No serious philosopher in all of human history until maybe 50 years ago would even entertain any of these notions. That should be a major wake up call.I don't think being male and female is simple though.
My technical opinion is that those with disorders are a third gender or genderless, I am not a medical expert. But they are not the norm or definitional, that I can assure you.But in this sentence you accept that they are male. You say that a MALE with two X chromosomes has a disorder. You still think they are male though.
No that does not change anything at all. THe mind can lie to oneself or to others. We don't decide our own truths, which essentially your whole paradigm on transgenderism amounts to. It is a foolish mindset that makes the entire universe incomprehensible.True, but I think it becomes more difficult when we talk about the mind and the body differing.
Actually I think we would say it's a dog. It would be a dog in at least some sense. For all practical purposes, it would be a dog; and mentally it would be one.
So would then be mastectomies, appendectomies, hysterectomies...
Yes, but the difference is that removing an exploding appendix or a cancerous organ is necessary to save a life. Cutting off a gang green limb may be necessary. However, genital mutilation is barbaric and it has to do with mental problems, not saving lives.
I also just want to point out that you cannot address the difference of the subjectivity of your position. Ultimately, your whole opinion is that there are not any objective truths, which I think intellectually is a bankrupt and indefensible position. See the rat video in the above post, pretty much proves it wrong.
Yes, but the difference is that removing an exploding appendix or a cancerous organ is necessary to save a life. Cutting off a gang green limb may be necessary. However, genital mutilation is barbaric and it has to do with mental problems, not saving lives.
I also just want to point out that you cannot address the difference of the subjectivity of your position. Ultimately, your whole opinion is that there are not any objective truths, which I think intellectually is a bankrupt and indefensible position. See the rat video in the above post, pretty much proves it wrong.
From a scientific standpoint, there is no evidence that 'transgender' exists.
No, but even if I did I still wouldn't be a Zebra, regardless. My opinion does not determine reality. Truth exists outside our ability to grasp it or not. So, even if I think I am a woman if I have male genetalia, male DNA, male brain proportions (the sizes of sections of the brain in men and women is different) and male hormonal levels, then I am a man, contrary to my false opinion.
If you accept as valid only science or scientists that agree with you, then that is the conclusion you would come to. We've discussed this before. You refuse to look at any evidence that contradicts what you want to believe.
There is no evidence
Medical science says it isn't.
You all have been saying this forever, but have absolutely nothing to show for it.
At this point, you all are just being dishonest. I've provided an esteemed, decorated psychiatrist's factual observation, *not opinion*, that medical science has no evidence of transgenderism.
He works right up at the top with the best of the best. He's not going to sacrifice his career for telling a lie which, by your claim, is so apparently wrong.
It is so easy for those who are born "normal" or unchallenged to judge those that are the exceptions to the rule.
I think it has to come down between them and the Lord, although I can not imagine someone having a relationship with someone and not telling them. That would be deceitful.
I can not imagine that the Lord is distraught over a human being that He allows to live... He can deal with those individuals. I think the church could do a much better job of trying to understand and be compassionate toward the LGBT community.
The only people Jesus ever got angry with, were the religious folks who should have known better. When people come to Christ He has promised to give us incorruptible bodies for these bodies of corruption... I pray that we all look forward to that day.
God bless, andrea
Transition works and nothing else has.
Mutilating the body and feeding people hormone pills because they want to be another gender is a disaster to moral science and psychology.
Those people need something else other then living in a fantasy world.
...why? If it works, what's your problem with it?
You all have been saying this forever, but have absolutely nothing to show for it.
At this point, you all are just being dishonest. I've provided an esteemed, decorated psychiatrist's factual observation, *not opinion*, that medical science has no evidence of transgenderism.
He works right up at the top with the best of the best. He's not going to sacrifice his career for telling a lie which, by your claim, is so apparently wrong.
Anything that requires mutilation is not a cure. It's a disservice to those who think they transgendered to have the only cure be to alter their natural being.
Mutilation is by definition cutting off an organ. So, the medical community for philosophical reasons can say something is not mutilation, but facts don't change facts.
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