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9And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. 10And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
That was a vision Paul saw... And He saw this because it was Gods way of directing Him to preach the Gospel in Macedonia. It wasn't Paul praying to those no longer on this earth.
Yes and that mans body was probably not 6 feet under the ground...
Yes and that mans body was probably not 6 feet under the ground...
No its possible, and its possible for any person with a disability to know God. But all of these have blood pumping through there veins. Alive "physically".
The verse states, "... and he prayed him (Paul) ...".
No its possible, and its possible for any person with a disability to know God. But all of these have blood pumping through there veins. Alive "physically".
notice that this is still a vision....He (the Macedonian Man, physically in Macedonai, not 6 feet below) prayed (asked) him (Paul, the guy who was to help him, by preaching the gospel)
Yes???
notice that this is still a vision....He (the Macedonian Man, physically in Macedonai, not 6 feet below) prayed (asked) him (Paul, the guy who was to help him, by preaching the gospel)
Yes???
Originally Posted by Rose_bud
notice that this is still a vision....He (the Macedonian Man, physically in Macedonai, not 6 feet below) prayed (asked) him (Paul ,the guy who was to help him, by preaching the gospel, physically in Troas, not 6 feet below)
Yes???
Yes, I noticed.
The spiritual ears do not depend on the "tent" (body) for hearing. Those who are in Christ are in agreement with the will of God, and desire that God's will be fulfilled "on earth as it is in heaven". Do those who die in Christ and remain in Him cease to love, cease to desire the will of God, cease to obey God toward the building up and support of the body of Christ ? God desires this; do those in Him and with Him cease to be in accord with the will of God ?
Could you please show me in scripture where God has said that he will allow those that are with Him, (i.e with there physical bodies 6 feet below) to hear and listen to our prayers...
St. Silouan the Athonite said:By the Holy Spirit does man come to know the Lord, his Creator, and the Holy Spirit with His grace fills his entire being - his soul, his mind and his body.
The Lord gave the Saints His grace, and they loved Him and clung to Him utterly, for the sweetness of the love of God does not allow of love for the world and its beauty.
And if it be thus here on earth, how much closer will the Saints in heaven be united to the Lord in love! And this love is ineffably sweet and proceeds from the Holy Spirit, and all the heavenly hosts are nourished thereon.
God is love; and the Holy Spirit in the Saints is love. By the Holy Spirit is the Lord made known. By the Holy Spirit is the Lord magnified in heaven. By the Holy Spirit the Saints glorify God, and with the gifts of the Holy Spirit does the Lord give glory to the Saints, and this glory shall have no end.
To many people the Saints seem far removed from us. But the Saints are far only from people who have distanced themselves - they are very close to them that keep Christ's commandments and possess the grace of the Holy Spirit.
In heaven all things live and move in the Holy Spirit. But this same Holy Spirit is on earth, too. The Holy Spirit dwells in our Church; in the sacraments; in the Holy Scriptures; in the souls of the faithful. The Holy Spirit unites all men, and so the Saints are close to us; and when we pray to them they hear our prayers in the Holy Spirit, and our souls feel that they are praying for us.
The Saints live in another world, and there through the Holy Spirit they behold the glory of God and the beauty of the Lord's countenance. But in the same Holy Spirit they see our lives, too, and our deeds. They know our sorrows and hear our ardent prayers. In their lives they learned of the love of God from the Holy Spirit; and he who knows love on earth takes it with him into eternal life in the Kingdom of Heaven, where love grows and becomes perfect. And if love makes one unable to forget a brother here, how much more do the Saints remember and pray for us!
The holy Saints have attained the Kingdom of Heaven, and there they look upon the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ; but by the Holy Spirit they see, too, the sufferings of men on earth. The Lord gave them such great grace that they embrace the whole world with their love. They see and know how we languish in affliction, how our hearts have withered within us, how despondency has fettered our souls; and they never cease to intercede for us with God.
The Saints rejoice when we repent, and grieve when men forsake God and become like brute beasts. They grieve to see people living on earth and not realizing that if they were to love one another, the world would know freedom from sin; and where sin is absent there is joy and gladness from the Holy Spirit, in such wise that on all sides everything looks pleasing, and the soul marvels that all is so well with her, and praises God.
Call with faith upon the Mother of God and the Saints, and pray to them. They hear our prayers and known even our inmost thoughts.
And marvel not at this. Heaven and all the Saints live by the Holy Spirit and in the world there is naught hidden from the Holy Spirit. Once upon a time I did not understand how it was that the holy inhabitants of heaven could see our lives. But when the Mother of God brought my sins home to me I realized that they see us in the Holy Spirit, and know our entire lives.
The Saints hear our prayers and are possessed from God of the strength to help us. The whole Christian race knows this
By the Holy Spirit. We are joined with the Body of Christ (in heaven and on Earth) by the Holy Spirit.Who says that Mary can hear what these on earth are speaking?
Ah, but there's the kicker! The saints in heaven can't hear us because their physical bodies are lying in a tomb. It's not the body in the tomb that is up in heaven with (until the Second Coming) Christ, but the SOULS of those who are alive in Christ!! And through the Holy Spirit, they are connected to us on Earth (the Body of Christ on heaven and earth).Could you please show me in scripture where God has said that he will allow those that are with Him, (i.e with there physical bodies 6 feet below) to hear and listen to our prayers...
I'll probably only receive your post in the morn, its kinda late this side of the globe
God Bless
Who says that Mary can hear what these on earth are speaking?
Could you please show me in scripture where God has said that he will allow those that are with Him, (i.e with there physical bodies 6 feet below) to hear and listen to our prayers...
I'll probably only receive your post in the morn, its kinda late this side of the globe
God Bless
The prayers of the saints (those on earth) are offered by those in heaven to God."The four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Revelation 5:8).
Rachel died in childbirth, before Joseph was sold into slavery, and before the exile.15 Thus says the Lord:
A voice is heard in Ramah,
lamentation and bitter weeping.
Rachel is weeping for her children;
she refuses to be comforted for her children,
because they are no more.
16 Thus says the Lord:
Keep your voice from weeping,
and your eyes from tears;
for there is a reward for your work,
says the Lord:
they shall come back from the land of the enemy;
17 there is hope for your future,
says the Lord:
your children shall come back to their own country.
Jeremiah 31
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