Is There Science Involved in John 14:6?

[jamesbond007]

Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6

This is a great teaching to Jesus' disciples, and there have been many interpretations, but I haven't heard this one.

It means that Jesus will be the final judge, jury and executioner. That he stands before every human and no one can escape judgment.

I was thinking how he could do this? And I thought well, maybe he controls gravity. Gravity affects every object in the universe and wherever you are. One cannot escape it even if they build a vacuum chamber.

Backstory: One of the best arguments I've heard from an atheist is as follows. During the debate between Christian apologist William Lane Craig and ASU professor Lawrence Krauss, Krauss mentioned that he would have to reassess his views if God rearranged the stars into reading, "I'm here." However, a few days later an atheist countered with only the people in that part of the hemisphere would see it. The other half wouldn't and presumably either ignore it or only read about it in the news for them to decide. His point was every single non-believer has to be convinced of God's existence. No easy feat by any means.

 

[bhsmte]

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[Halbhh]

Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6

This is a great teaching to Jesus' disciples, and there have been many interpretations, but I haven't heard this one.

It means that Jesus will be the final judge, jury and executioner. That he stands before every human and no one can escape judgment.

I was thinking how he could do this? And I thought well, maybe he controls gravity. Gravity affects every object in the universe and wherever you are. One cannot escape it even if they build a vacuum chamber.

Backstory: One of the best arguments I've heard from an atheist is as follows. During the debate between Christian apologist William Lane Craig and ASU professor Lawrence Krauss, Krauss mentioned that he would have to reassess his views if God rearranged the stars into reading, "I'm here." However, a few days later an atheist countered with only the people in that part of the hemisphere would see it. The other half wouldn't and presumably either ignore it or only read about it in the news for them to decide. His point was every single non-believer has to be convinced of God's existence. No easy feat by any means.

God as the author of the laws of nature -- physics -- we'd then think would not be limited by them, but able to replace this reality, this earth, at any time, being able to literally create a new reality in moments. This wonderful verse though opens up more fully as we read with listening from the chapter beginning, John 14 NIV

 

[Dave-W]

It means that Jesus will be the final judge, jury and executioner. That he stands before every human and no one can escape judgment.

You should read Derek Prince's treatise on Final Judgment.

It is the final section of the Foundation Series.

 

[Tanj]

His point was every single non-believer has to be convinced of God's existence. No easy feat by any means.

Too hard for God? What has "easy" got to do with it.

 

[1 Timothy 4:1]

Gravity is fake it's too small for holding things together , it's either electromagnetism or density or both of them .

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Gravity is fake it's too small for holding things together , it's either electromagnetism or density or both of them .

Well, it won't be Density, without gravity, density doesn't really do anything. If electromagnetism, then wouldn't that have a far more noticeable effect on ferrous metals? i.e. non-ferrous materials literally don't react to electromagnetism in anything we've ever tested - so why would you call it electromagnetism? Flat earthers are a funny bunch...

 

[1 Timothy 4:1]

Well, it won't be Density, without gravity, density doesn't really do anything. If electromagnetism, then wouldn't that have a far more noticeable effect on ferrous metals? i.e. non-ferrous materials literally don't react to electromagnetism in anything we've ever tested - so why would you call it electromagnetism? Flat earthers are a funny bunch...

Well Gravity clearly does not work since science says about dark matter because they are missing 97% of the energy right . If i was missing 97% of my sandwich would you still call it sandwich or leftovers ;P

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Well Gravity clearly does not work since science says about dark matter because they are missing 97% of the energy right . If i was missing 97% of my sandwich would you still call it sandwich or leftovers ;P

lol!

Gravity works just fine. You're right that we don't know what dark matter is or why we have all this unaccounted for gravity, but gravity is the reason why we know there's something like dark matter we have to account for.

 

[Ophiolite]

lol!

Gravity works just fine. You're right that we don't know what dark matter is or why we have all this unaccounted for gravity, but gravity is the reason why we know there's something like dark matter we have to account for.

Weighty matters indeed!

 

[SkyWriting]

Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6

This is a great teaching to Jesus' disciples, and there have been many interpretations, but I haven't heard this one.

It means that Jesus will be the final judge, jury and executioner. That he stands before every human and no one can escape judgment.

I was thinking how he could do this? And I thought well, maybe he controls gravity. Gravity affects every object in the universe and wherever you are. One cannot escape it even if they build a vacuum chamber.

Backstory: One of the best arguments I've heard from an atheist is as follows. During the debate between Christian apologist William Lane Craig and ASU professor Lawrence Krauss, Krauss mentioned that he would have to reassess his views if God rearranged the stars into reading, "I'm here." However, a few days later an atheist countered with only the people in that part of the hemisphere would see it. The other half wouldn't and presumably either ignore it or only read about it in the news for them to decide. His point was every single non-believer has to be convinced of God's existence. No easy feat by any means.

God is Spirit, so the laws the materialistic world
will not apply to the interaction of Men and God.

 

[jamesbond007]

You should read Derek Prince's treatise on Final Judgment.

It is the final section of the Foundation Series.

Is there a review of the book?

 

[jamesbond007]

lol!

Gravity works just fine. You're right that we don't know what dark matter is or why we have all this unaccounted for gravity, but gravity is the reason why we know there's something like dark matter we have to account for.

I agree. Gravity works just fine. It would be a good representation of a perfect force. The other forces do not work in every condition.

 

[jamesbond007]

Moreover, gravity is the most mysterious force. We understand the strong and weak force and can do experiments on them. We can do experiments with electromagnetic force. However, we do not have a complete understanding of Earth's magnetic force. That's still a mystery.

So what else does gravity entail? We've discovered gravitational waves in 2016 and it backed up special relativity and ushered in a new era for astronomy. We started looking at how gravity works as a force differently. Later in 2016, we discovered the universe is flat. That finding backs up what the Bible said about the universe being like a scroll, i.e. there is a flat part of a scroll. Is there more to this as we know that there is an area above the flat part of the scroll?

One of the ways we find the shape of the universe is through parallel lines. We imagine what parallel lines will do in a spherical form, a saddle shaped form and a flat form. Now that we understand the universe is flat, what will parallel lines do in a flat universe? The lines are "supposed" to continue being parallel forever.

That said, it would not be the way it works if the universe is like a scroll. One part flat while two edges are curved. The parallel lines will start curving as one reaches two of the edges. What kind of effect does that have as space time curves near two of the edges?

 

[jamesbond007]

Apparently, there is some connection between gravity and electromagnetism. Between the two forces, many of us know electromagnetism is stronger since magnets easily overcome gravity. However, if we consider distance, gravity's influence is the strongest. I've seen those charts where they put gravity as the weakest force, but is it? We also have read that the gravity of black holes is so strong that even light (photons) cannot reach escape velocity. (It also brings up questions about photons.) Nothing can escape the gravity of black holes.

Here is a wiki article on fundamental interactions. Fundamental interaction - Wikipedia.

With electromagnetism of the Earth and planets, we do not understand how it works either. I'm not so sure that today's theory that it's due to heat convection caused by radioactive decay is correct.

 

[Jon Osterman]

I dispute that "gravity is the most mysterious force". There is no experiment that has ever been done regarding gravitational interactions that cannot be explained by General Relativity. The perception that there is something wrong with gravity arises because GR is not a quantum theory and quantising it naively produces a badly behaved (non-renormalizable) theory. However, we have no experimental observations of gravity at the quantum scale, so no actual need for quantum gravity.

John 4:16 however, has nothing to do with gravity or electromagnetism. It is saying that the only way to God is through Jesus' death on the cross.