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Is there really a deep state?

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what happens politically in the US is news wherever you are. With Trump’s isolationist bent though, if he continues in power, it might start to matter less, which might not be a bad thing.
When President Trump's critics say stuff like this, I'm not sure they get it.

For President Trump's supporters, the end of the US as everybody's big brother isn't a bug; it's a feature.
 
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When President Trump's critics say stuff like this, I'm not sure they get it.

For President Trump's supporters, the end of the US as everybody's big brother isn't a bug; it's a feature.

Yes, like I say, could be a good thing. More of a demanding uncle than a big brother though.
 
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Best to concentrate on personally being in Him daily and leaving the bigger detail up to those who are called.

That is along the lines of what the Holy Spirit said yesterday. He not to involve myself in the discussions on race, politics, etc. They had no impact on me at all and to keep my focus on my work (calling).

Who knows what paths of blessing we will be led into if we prioritise daily walking with Him and surrendering to His purpose.

I'm walking that out as we speak. :)

~Bella
 
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I'm not certain where that one ranks among the 52 documented theories about the cause of the Kennedy assassination, but my guess is "not high."
Well Trump held off documents until he assumed Bush Sr would be dead so who knows what we'll learn.
 
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@Jude1:3Contendforthefaith , This speech is very likely what got him assassinated. Thanks for posting it.


I think that one point that folks miss is that the spiritual agenda that Satan inspires does not depend on human connections, secret societies and the like.

In the same way as we learn to be individually led by the holy spirit, the unsaved learn to follow the lead of the unholy spirit of their father the devil.

So the existance of a so called 'deep state' does not need to be proved by human connections. Sure climbing the ladder of masonic levels can accelerate this unholy process if you are foolish enough to participate, but the Father of lies does not need such a structure to orchestrate his agenda.

This is why I have quoted "If My people called by My Name will humble themselves and pray...

It is a spiritual war that must be fought by spiritual means.

We have been told... but we don't take it seriously enough, and our societies crumble.

Now is a good time to combine together in prayer.
 
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Yes, like I say, could be a good thing. More of a demanding uncle than a big brother though.
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Like what? Do you have any examples of that happening?

To give an example can be explained simply and concisely - why are US troops still in Afghanistan after three presidential elections in which the winner campaigned on promises to remove troops from Afghanistan? Were Obama and Trump sincere in their support for such a move? I think so. But entrenched officials in the State Department and the Department of Defense have worked to keep them there. Similarly, even though in all three of the last presidential elections the candidate friendlier to Russia won, we still still see so much hostility to Russia coming from Washington. This is why we've seen so much blowback - again from unelected bureaucrats - every Trump moves to pull the troops out of Syria.

These are holdovers from previous administrations, Obama, Bush, Clinton, even Reagan, who are committed to political strategies that public opinion has moved on from.
 
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In the same way as we learn to be individually led by the holy spirit, the unsaved learn to follow the lead of the unholy spirit of their father the devil.
That is simply putting self interest before the will of God which is to care for each other. Whether a person thinks his speeding in a school zone is justified or destroying millions in a war is acceptable, the motive is the same.. self interest. So obviously those of the deep state are pursuing self interest but they must be better at it to overcome the self interest of the masses. So far , so good. It's a never ending game that man cannot change. But soon that will be solved for us.
 
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But entrenched officials in the State Department and the Department of Defense have worked to keep them there.
Better known as the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about. War is profitable and now their new ally, the medical industrial complex has found another profitable venue. Eisenhower's words fell on deaf ears because the patriotic have a tendency to protect their naivety by the use of delusions.
 
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That is really informative. Thank you for replying. I never really thought that could be both sides working towards the middle. Where does that leave Americans?

Where does that leave Americans?

On our knees (before God) as it should be.

His will ... WILL ... be done .... focus on the things above ;o)

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.

1 Peter 5:7
Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

Psalm 118:8
It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in man.

Psalm 34:19
Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all.
 
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On our knees (before God) as it should be.

His will ... WILL ... be done .... focus on the things above ;o)

Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.

1 Peter 5:7
Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

Psalm 118:8
It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in man.

Psalm 34:19
Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all.
Thank you for sharing. I understand that we have to trust in God and pray. Should we not try and protect the people from our deep state?
 
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That is simply putting self interest before the will of God which is to care for each other. Whether a person thinks his speeding in a school zone is justified or destroying millions in a war is acceptable, the motive is the same.. self interest. So obviously those of the deep state are pursuing self interest but they must be better at it to overcome the self interest of the masses. So far , so good. It's a never ending game that man cannot change. But soon that will be solved for us.

Yes and they haven't a clue who they are ultimately serving...
 
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Yes and they haven't a clue who they are ultimately serving...
Nothing changes since the Garden except for the ability now to monitor and control most humans on earth. Welcome to the Technocratic anti-Christ era.
 
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Nothing changes since the Garden except for the ability now to monitor and control most humans on earth. Welcome to the Technocratic anti-Christ era.
I am truly just worried about not doing my part to stop them. There has to be a way.
 
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