Is there really a deep state?

[timothyu]

I am truly just worried about not doing my part to stop them. There has to be a way.

I think our part will be helping those in need just as in the days of the Roman Empire. Oppressed helping oppressed. For those who remain self oriented, they remain part of the problem, not the solution. Jesus' two commandments stand firm.

 

[Broken Fence]

I think our part will be helping those in need just as in the days of the Roman Empire. Oppressed helping oppressed. For those who remain self oriented, they remain part of the problem, not the solution. Jesus' two commandments stand firm.

Agreed love is the only way. Witness in love.

 

[eleos1954]

Thank you for sharing. I understand that we have to trust in God and pray. Should we not try and protect the people from our deep state?

How do we know the truth? So much corruption and so many "stories" ... who do we believe? This news agency reports this .... this news agency reports that ... who is telling the truth? This person says this .... this person says that.

We aren't privy to classified information ... nor do we have any authority ... no way of really knowing what is going on.

Seems to me most all are playing power games and the American people are the game pieces they play.

 

[timothyu]

Seems to me most all are playing power games and the American people are the game pieces they play.

Such are the ways of mankind.

 

[eleos1954]

Such are the ways of mankind.

Unfortunately it is so ....

I'm just focusing on my relationship with the Lord ... my very small family ... and a couple dear friends of whom I have known for over 30 years and planting seeds and praying they will come to know the Lord.

The world is in chaos ...

2 Corinthians 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

 

[Broken Fence]

How do we know the truth? So much corruption and so many "stories" ... who do we believe? This news agency reports this .... this news agency reports that ... who is telling the truth? This person says this .... this person says that.

We aren't privy to classified information ... nor do we have any authority ... no way of really knowing what is going on.

Seems to me most all are playing power games and the American people are the game pieces they play.

Well truth is in the details. That is neither here nor there. People have their own opinions. Thank you for sharing. God bless.

 

[The Barbarian]

Have we always had a deep State in politics? And I just never realized.

The Founders of this country designed the state to be deep enough that no one person could hijack the government and impose an autocracy.

It's not all that hard to get.

 

[Broken Fence]

The Founders of this country designed the state to be deep enough that no one person could hijack the government and impose an autocracy.

It's not all that hard to get.

So the deep state existed with founding fathers?

 

[timothyu]

The Founders of this country designed the state to be deep enough that no one person could hijack the government and impose an autocracy.

It's not all that hard to get.

They never even dreamed of a global deep state.

 

[The Barbarian]

They never even dreamed of a global deep state.

The deep state they designed was American, not global. That's how it still works.

 

[The Barbarian]

So the deep state existed with founding fathers?

Yep.

 

[timothyu]

The deep state they designed was American, not global. That's how it still works.

Global overrides the US today as it does other nations.

 

[The Barbarian]

Global overrides the US today as it does other nations.

Show us that. What do you have?

 

[Broken Fence]

So the deep state existed with founding fathers?

@The Barbarian I really don't think that is true. I think it is more important than ever that the church needs to rise up and this is why.

 

[timothyu]

Show us that. What do you have?

Do you think the World organisations are beholden to the US? Also, borders are for people, not for finance or business. Times change. Trump however, chose to take a step backwards. That may not be a bad thing., Better to have 195 odd nations controlling their own people than one government controlling all. The money changers may have it over the nations but they don't need to be given absolute power. There is still time to throw them out of the temple, but as we know, that won't happen, at least until the Boss comes and rids us of them for good.

 

[The Barbarian]

I really don't think that is true. I think it is more important than ever that the church needs to rise up and this is why.

That has nothing to do with government. Jesus expressly told His people to avoid mixing religion with state.

 

[The Barbarian]

Do you think the World organisations are beholden to the US?

Some, maybe. But we don't actually control them, even if we do influence them somewhat. So do other states. None of them obligate us in any way, unless we specifically decide to do so for ourselves.

 

[Broken Fence]

That has nothing to do with government. Jesus expressly told His people to avoid mixing religion with state.

God bless, The Barbarian.

 

[timothyu]

Jesus expressly told His people to avoid mixing religion with state.

He even went as far as to say what He taught was a way of life, not a religion. But man prefers institutions.

 

[A_Thinker]

So the deep state existed with founding fathers?

The "deep state" is essentially, formed from the framework of the Constitution.