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I already did. I know, hypothetically speaking, that you need your money to survive, so out of love, Gods moral law of love, i don't steal your money. This law of love is not a feeling but a moral law. How is this in any way subjective?You lost me, explain.
Just because your opinion says so doesn't make it so.No, thats a fact.
Try to make a rational case for an ”objective morality”.
First, prove the existance of god(s).I already did. I know, hypothetically speaking, that you need your money to survive, so out of love, Gods moral law of love, i don't steal your money. This law of love is not a feeling but a moral law. How is this in any way subjective?
And the rational case is….?Just because your opinion says so doesn't make it so.
God's existence is irrelevant to this discussion. It doesn't matter where the moral law came from only that it exists.First, prove the existance of god(s).
Then, this is your assertion about god(s) and morals, i.e. not ”objective” as you are a subject.
Thirdly, is it only your belief in god(s) that keeps you from stealing?
Then support its existance with facts.God's existence is irrelevant to this discussion. It doesn't matter where the moral law came from only that it exists.
If i choose not to steal your money because you need it to live, how is this subjective? Its a fact, not an opinion or feeling that you need your money.And the rational case is….?
Its been written like any other law or moral law. Therefore it exists.Then support its existance with facts.
I don't know what you mean by ”an objective way to determine what is right and wrong". I'm not saying that. I'm saying we use logic and rationality to determine a moral truth. Morality is a rational enterprise and we can at least try to find a better way to behave that is better than other ways to behave.”We” certainly dont need ”an objective way to determine what is right and wrong behaviour”.
….If i choose not to steal your money because you need it to live, how is this subjective? Its a fact, not an opinion or feeling that you need your money.
No, thats not how it works. Writing something does not mske it ”exist”.Its been written like any other law or moral law. Therefore it exists.
Explain please.….
No, that does not support a ”objective morality”. Do you understand the basic terms in moral philosophy?
I quoted your assertion.I don't know what you mean by ”an objective way to determine what is right and wrong". I'm not saying that. I'm say we use logic and rationality to determine a moral truth. Morality is a rational enterprise and we can at least try to find a better way to behave that is better than other ways to behave.
Its moral philosophy like any other that has been written. Sure i can say that space aliens exist but that doesn't make it true. But the fact that i wrote it and my words exist are known to be true.No, thats not how it works. Writing something does not mske it ”exist”.
Que?Its moral philosophy like any other that has been written. Sure i can say that space aliens exist but that doesn't make it true. But the fact that i wrote it and my words exist are known to be true.
Because you are not an objective agent.You haven't answers my question. I know you need your money to live, so i don't steal your money. How is this subjective?
We can determine a better/best way to behave morally by using rationality and logic. We can reason why some behaviours are better than others. Our intuitions tell us that certain actions are wrong or that there are moral truths (like laws) that stand independent of humans.I quoted your assertion.
And better? For whom? By which authority?
You are not an objective agent but i judge your words not you. Just because you think im not an objective agent doesn't mean my argument is wrong. Prove my argument wrong without attacking the messenger.Because you are not an objective agent.
I have not attacked you.You are not an objective agent but i judge your words not you. Just because you think im not an objective agent doesn't mean my argument is wrong. Prove my argument wrong without attacking the messenger.
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