Is there anything wrong with being a Mormon Christian?

[Gregory Thompson]

I ask this because it seems like many people don't like this sect of Christianity.

Yet if I were any other sect or denomination I'd still be different. They are too numerous to count, all differing from another.

So what's the difference in being different?

Mormons have another Spirit than the Holy Spirit . so that's what makes all the difference .

also there's this book that claims to be "another gospel of Jesus Christ" of which Paul said if someone preaches another gospel . let them be anathema .

Their presentation of another Jesus would be akin to what Muslims do when they talk about Jesus .

So basically, i think those are all the grievances at the core level .

i suppose Nephi contradicting Jeremiah's account of history thus invalidating the entire history of mormon would be a cosmetic issue .

but i personally feel no real issue with the whole deal . people can only come to Jesus if the Father sends them anyway . I really trust Jesus to get it all right so i just focus on him . hope that helps clear things up .

 

[Rescued One]

Wherefore, redemption cometh in and through the Holy Messiah; for he is full of grace and truth. Behold, he offereth himself a sacrifice for sin, to answer the ends of the law, unto all those who have a broken heart and a contrite spirit; and unto none else can the ends of the law be answered. Wherefore, how great the importance to make these things known unto the inhabitants of the earth, that they may know that there is no flesh that can dwell in the presence of God, save it be through the merits, and mercy, and grace of the Holy Messiah, who layeth down his life according to the flesh, and taketh it again by the power of the Spirit, that he may bring to pass the resurrection of the dead, being the first that should rise. Wherefore, he is the firstfruits unto God, inasmuch as he shall make intercession for all the children of men; and they that believe in him shall be saved. (2 Ne. 2:6-9)

And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent. (Mosiah 3:17)
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The Book of Mormon in no uncertain terms teaches salvation through Jesus Christ.

Some in this sub-forum will try to spin this and turn it on its head using any number of machinations, but they rail against an immovable stone. The Book of Mormon declares to the world that salvation can only be found in and through Jesus Christ.

Thanks for asking.

You know good and well that there is more to it than what the Book of Mormon says! Everyone should read the Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price if they want to understand Mormonism. LDS scriptures are online at lds.org

 

[Rescued One]

also there's this book that claims to be "another gospel of Jesus Christ" of which Paul said if someone preaches another gospel . let them be anathema .

The Book of Mormon claims to be another Testament of Christ, not another gospel.


However, Mormonism, by its teachings, is clearly another gospel. They claim that they have the true gospel and that ours is false.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The Book of Mormon claims to be another Testament of Christ, not another gospel.


However, Mormonism, by its teachings, is clearly another gospel. They claim that they have the true gospel and that ours is false.

Yeah . but most mormons i meet try to subvert and claim to worship the same God .

 

[gort]

I ask this because it seems like many people don't like this sect of Christianity.

Yet if I were any other sect or denomination I'd still be different. They are too numerous to count, all differing from another.

So what's the difference in being different?

Depends on how much you want to trash Jesus.

 

[Baqueinfaith]

Yay first post!

Let's put faith aside for a second and answer this academically.

Consider the theology of group of Christians today, whether they be more Protestant or Catholic/Orthodox/Assyrian Church of the East. Consider also groups from antiquity and the Middle Ages that called themselves Christian but those on this forum do not generally hold to be Christian, for example--Monophysites, Nestorians, Monatists, Donatists, Sabellians, Arians, Modalists, Albigensians, etc. Consider also groups that some claim influenced or were heavily influenced by Christian thought as it was formed--Neo-Platonists, Manichaeans, the Cult of Mithras, etc. Finally consider some other groups that call themselves Christians that we generally do not consider Christian--Jehovah's Witnesses or Seventh Day Adventists.

Now look at LDS theology. Simply, you guys are so different from any of these groups that have ever called themselves Christian at any point in the past that we know of. Ever. And this is not nit-picking. This is not a dispute over how precisely God gives us free, unmerited gift of Grace. This is not a dispute over hyper-Calvinism vs. High-Calvinism. This is not a dispute over infant vs. believer's Baptism. Those arguments, aside from being minor, generally have analogs in different Christian groups. LDS has entirely different conception of the nature of God and man's relationship to him. LDS believes that God was a man on some planet in some universe somewhere, who was a faithful Mormon, who got to become his own God, and created his own world, and taht Jesus was one of his spirit children that he produced through intercourse with a spirit wife, who was sealed to him during his time on some other Earth. And you guys believe that you too, can become like him, and be Gods of your own universe.

Where do you find anything like that theologically in any other group associated with Christianity? We have to draw the line somewhere, an academically, it makes sense to say that a group with an entirely different theological conception of the divine from anything else ever considered or assocaited with Christian is clearly not Christian.

While LDS does, sociologically fit in with some Christian sub-cultures (in the United States at least), that is not enough to make you guys Christian. At most we can say that sociologically in the United States, LDS can be seen as part of the general movement towards proseltytizing, individualzed faith common amongst Christians.


To be completely honest, I find Islamic theology close to Christianity than LDS theology. I don't know how many on these forums will agree with that assessment. I think more would agree with me that Jewish theology is closer to Christianity than LDS theology.

To be honest, the more I look at LDS theology, the more it reminds me of Scientology with a Christian veneer.

This is aside from reasons of faith, where many of us, well, we'll just have to agree to disgree on this one.

Harsh as this sounds, I really do genuinely find LDS member fantastically easy to get along with, and I admire their Pro-Life standpoint.

Also I hear they use smiley faces a lot.

 

[Baqueinfaith]

double post

 

[thesunisout]

This video will save your life

YouTube - ‪Mormon Lady Went to Hell‬‏

I ask this because it seems like many people don't like this sect of Christianity.

Yet if I were any other sect or denomination I'd still be different. They are too numerous to count, all differing from another.

So what's the difference in being different?

 

[Heavens]

I ask this because it seems like many people don't like this sect of Christianity.

Yet if I were any other sect or denomination I'd still be different. They are too numerous to count, all differing from another.

So what's the difference in being different?

I don't think its wrong to join the mormon religion. It wouldn't be any more wrong than joining the catholics or JW's or Hindus or Bhuddists or Muslims or Jews I don't think.
None of the sects "like" each other from what I've seen but that doesn't matter. People have bias. That's ok. Whatever makes you happy and keeps you out of the bars hehe. But I drink coffee so I couldn't join them oh well

 

[Soulgazer]

This video will save your life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwFruS4rpdI&feature=related

This Video will save yours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaDFlgs4XxQ

 

[Baqueinfaith]

I don't think its wrong to join the mormon religion. It wouldn't be any more wrong than joining the catholics or JW's or Hindus or Bhuddists or Muslims or Jews I don't think.
None of the sects "like" each other from what I've seen but that doesn't matter. People have bias. That's ok. Whatever makes you happy and keeps you out of the bars hehe. But I drink coffee so I couldn't join them oh well

LDS, next time you complain that we attack you guys unfairly here on Christian forums, try to pay attention to the little jabs people take at Catholics.

It's okay, though, I used to get angry about uninformed attacks on my nationality. Then I found Jesus and just learned to laugh when people attack my God. They know not what they do.

 

[TheGenuineChristian]

How come Mormons always ride bikes and walk? I never seen a mormon driving a car when they do their missionary thing.

 

[TheGenuineChristian]

LDS, next time you complain that we attack you guys unfairly here on Christian forums, try to pay attention to the little jabs people take at Catholics.

You mean like bowing down to statues of Mary, praying to statues of Mary, and carrying around statues of Mary as if those statues have life in them or are able to speak back?

 

[bbbbbbb]

How come Mormons always ride bikes and walk? I never seen a mormon driving a car when they do their missionary thing.

Probably because these guys are doing the missionary stint on their own dime and can't afford a car. The LDS Church doesn't foot the bill for them to do the work. Most missionaries are supported by their denominations, but in the LDS world the church expects their missionaries to pay their own way.

 

[TheGenuineChristian]

Probably because these guys are doing the missionary stint on their own dime and can't afford a car. The LDS Church doesn't foot the bill for them to do the work. Most missionaries are supported by their denominations, but in the LDS world the church expects their missionaries to pay their own way.

Interesting. I thought it was some kind of Mormon rule.

 

[Baqueinfaith]

You mean like bowing down to statues of Mary, praying to statues of Mary, and carrying around statues of Mary as if those statues have life in them or are able to speak back?

Yes, jabs like that. 30 seconds on google would find you an answer to that and clear away your misconception, but I don't think you really want to know. Besides, this is the Unorthodox Theology forum, and this is a thread on LDS. Stay on topic.

 

[Baqueinfaith]

Probably because these guys are doing the missionary stint on their own dime and can't afford a car. The LDS Church doesn't foot the bill for them to do the work. Most missionaries are supported by their denominations, but in the LDS world the church expects their missionaries to pay their own way.

I'm confused by this as well. I was under the impression they were supported by the organization. Can any LDS clear this up.

 

[RufustheRed]

Probably because these guys are doing the missionary stint on their own dime and can't afford a car. The LDS Church doesn't foot the bill for them to do the work. Most missionaries are supported by their denominations, but in the LDS world the church expects their missionaries to pay their own way.

That's not totally true. Most of the missionaries that I know of, usually come back to their home church or some other church in their denomination to raise support, especially those who are life time missionaries.

As far as the bikes go, you will notice that the LDS missionaries at are on them are in urban areas. If they are traveling form one town to another, they are in a church owned automobile.

Rufus

 

[RufustheRed]

I'm confused by this as well. I was under the impression they were supported by the organization. Can any LDS clear this up.

I'm not LDS, but I can tell you that the LDS male missionaries DO pay their own way for their two-year stint. I'm not sure how long the female missionaries are in the field, but I'm sure they pay their own way, also.

Hope this helps.

Rufus

 

[Baqueinfaith]

Thanks Rufus.

Then LDS is not so well-organized as I thought. Are the ones who proselytize in the US an dother countries with a big homegrown presence also missionaries or just local volunteers?