Is there an Orthodox hatred of Protestants?

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You got me thinking, so I looked up the definition of the word “weird.”

weird—adj. meaning: odd, strange, out of the realm of normalcy. Old English. 13th century. Example: An Orthodox Christian on an Orthodox forum named after a Roman Catholic writer/satirist commentator.

You learn something new each day. :sorry::sorry::sorry:^_^

Sez the guy who always puts his reply before the quote he's replying to...

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Oh I’ll make you regret it, boy!!!^_^^_^^_^

Just kidding...

They wear this weird material resembling Sherlock Holmes, houndstooth pattern material, European taxi cab hats, weird plaid skirts that look out of date as heck, strange coats, wire glasses, 1800’s-ish color mixtures, weird hair. Shoes that look like a cobbler from Jack the Ripper times made them, etc. odd bunch.
Huh. Very strange. I'm technically a millennial (though right on the line between that and Gen X), and I've never met anyone who dresses like that. Usually both men and women are in either business casual type attire or jeans and t-shirts. Must be just the 20-somethings. I thought millennials were supposed to be too broke for things like vintage dress-up? Or is that just me?
I feel obliged to comment, as a millennial on the other side of the border as dzheremi. Depending on what year you want to use as the cutoff, I sometimes count as a Gen Z, sometimes as a millennial. (I relate far more closely to the millennial side of things though, especially relating to technology - I definitely didn't grow up with digital, and I remember when my family got a computer, when my dad got his first cell phone for work, the switch from analog to digital clocks, etc.)

In any case... I usually wear business casual or casual pants and a tshirt. Nothing hipster-y like what Gurney describes. And even in college, I'm not sure I knew anyone like that, either. I can think of only a couple people who may fit that description, but definitely not very many
 
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I feel obliged to comment, as a millennial on the other side of the border as dzheremi. Depending on what year you want to use as the cutoff, I sometimes count as a Gen Z, sometimes as a millennial. (I relate far more closely to the millennial side of things though, especially relating to technology - I definitely didn't grow up with digital, and I remember when my family got a computer, when my dad got his first cell phone for work, the switch from analog to digital clocks, etc.)

In any case... I usually wear business casual or casual pants and a tshirt. Nothing hipster-y like what Gurney describes. And even in college, I'm not sure I knew anyone like that, either. I can think of only a couple people who may fit that description, but definitely not very many
I’m technically the early half of the millennials, but we have a lot of Gen Z at church. I haven’t seen it much here - maybe one or two, but mostly just khakis and button downs, sweaters; T-shirt and jeans for casual, etc.

We’re East Coast though; of course the West Coast will be more out there. I mean, really, what could you expect from everyone there?? j/k @gurneyhalleck1 ;)
 
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I’m technically the early half of the millennials, but we have a lot of Gen Z at church. I haven’t seen it much here - maybe one or two, but mostly just khakis and button downs, sweaters; T-shirt and jeans for casual, etc.

We’re East Coast though; of course the West Coast will be more out there. I mean, really, what could you expect from everyone there?? j/k @gurneyhalleck1 ;)
East Coast > West Coast!
 
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I get it, brother. I'm Generation X, born 1975. My generation was the "latch key kids" generation where mom and dad worked until 6pm while the door was under the mat. The kid went home alone on his bike, unlocked the door, made his own dinner, and took care of himself. Most parents in the 80's were divorced, yuppies all over, etc. Me? My mom was always home when I got there, no key under the mat, happily married parents, normal life.

It's very very possible to NOT fit into the weird boxes of our generations. You sound like you're just such a person. I see myself the same way.

I feel obliged to comment, as a millennial on the other side of the border as dzheremi. Depending on what year you want to use as the cutoff, I sometimes count as a Gen Z, sometimes as a millennial. (I relate far more closely to the millennial side of things though, especially relating to technology - I definitely didn't grow up with digital, and I remember when my family got a computer, when my dad got his first cell phone for work, the switch from analog to digital clocks, etc.)

In any case... I usually wear business casual or casual pants and a tshirt. Nothing hipster-y like what Gurney describes. And even in college, I'm not sure I knew anyone like that, either. I can think of only a couple people who may fit that description, but definitely not very many
 
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West Coast, baby....no snow, no black ice, no blizzards, no heating oil or salting roads, just living the good life with cities like San Francisco allowing homeless people to poop on the streets and leave their heroin needles everywhere, great weather, LGBT maniac parades, Southern California rioting periodically, a little earthquakage, and a baseball team I love!^_^

With sports I love the Steelers and my favorite AL team is the Red Sox, so I like some East Coast action! Celtics, too!

I keep thinking of leaving California someday because I'm a gun guy. I shoot a lot, and second amendment is my issue. I hate the LGBT nazism in California and the socialism. But then I see where Virginia, Texas, and Arizona are going and where NY and New England and Hawaii and other places have gone with liberal laws, and I am starting to think I'll stay put and just enjoy the good weather! LOL

I’m technically the early half of the millennials, but we have a lot of Gen Z at church. I haven’t seen it much here - maybe one or two, but mostly just khakis and button downs, sweaters; T-shirt and jeans for casual, etc.

We’re East Coast though; of course the West Coast will be more out there. I mean, really, what could you expect from everyone there?? j/k @gurneyhalleck1 ;)
 
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West Coast, baby....no snow, no black ice, no blizzards, no heating oil or salting roads, just living the good life with cities like San Francisco allowing homeless people to poop on the streets and leave their heroin needles everywhere, great weather, LGBT maniac parades, Southern California rioting periodically, a little earthquakage, and a baseball team I love!^_^

With sports I love the Steelers and my favorite AL team is the Red Sox, so I like some East Coast action! Celtics, too!

I keep thinking of leaving California someday because I'm a gun guy. I shoot a lot, and second amendment is my issue. I hate the LGBT nazism in California and the socialism. But then I see where Virginia, Texas, and Arizona are going and where NY and New England and Hawaii and other places have gone with liberal laws, and I am starting to think I'll stay put and just enjoy the good weather! LOL
Gotta go to small town or rural Pennsylvania if you are a 2nd amendment guy ;) Outdoor shooting ranges are often just on the side of the roads. Just stay away from Philly and liberal cities and you’ll be great! Lots of red on the map with blue in the big cities. And there are lots of Orthodox Churches too :)
 
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Gotta go to small town or rural Pennsylvania if you are a 2nd amendment guy ;) Outdoor shooting ranges are often just on the side of the roads. Just stay away from Philly and liberal cities and you’ll be great! Lots of red on the map with blue in the big cities. And there are lots of Orthodox Churches too :)

not to mention excused absences for the first day of hunting season.
 
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My intention is not to offend anyone, but so far, the biggest hurdle for me in joining the Orthodox faith is an apparent dislike for "Protestant" Christians.
I would like to share a letter that I wrote to a friend of mine who is a recent (Australian) inquirer in the Orthodox Church.
"I want to share some thoughts with you and I hope you won't take offense. The Australian priest's words have stuck with me, as well as a cartoon I saw on Facebook mocking protestants...and other bits I've picked up here and there. I've developed a rule over the past year, that if a Christian displays hatred for others, especially other Christians, they are someone who I should assume is not walking with God.
I find it ironic that the priest seemed concerned that I might be taking advice from a "crazy American Ascetic", as I have received most of my information so far from the Australian Father Kosmas. Father Seraphim Rose is the closest I've come to taking advice from an American Orthodox ascetic....and I respect him very much.

I have also noticed an attitude from many of the Orthodox people I've observed of an intense dislike, even hatred toward protestants, and an overwhelming attitude that they can't possibly know Christ.
This truly concerns me, especially when I see leaders with these attitudes.

I realize that America is very corrupt and worldly, my understanding is that the same is true of Australia as well as other countries.
I realize that protestant churches house many "cultural christians" and false converts. Of course, the Orthodox nations like Russia have a terrible problem with this also.
Some of the Orthodox I've seen condemning protestants appear to have worldly and even anti-christ interests.

I know that no person and no church is perfect. I know there are major problems with the protestant churches. But I also know several (Protestant)precious souls who love Jesus with their whole heart and share that love with those around them. These people are living testimonies to Christ's transformation of lives and His miracles. To deny that is, as far as I'm concerned, a denial of Christ Himself.

At this point, I am concerned that I may not be able to move past this issue with the Church. I truly hope that I have gotten the wrong impression or that there are enough people who don't share these views that this issue won't be a stumbling block for me."...
I'd like to hear your opinion and experience on this issue.

Sometimes they have difficulty forgiving protestants as a whole because of personal experience when converting to Orthodoxy. It is occasionally the case where the convert is disowned by their family or faces similarly extreme reactions from family and/or previous support system. In this case, this isn't hate, it's just personal struggle.

But as a whole, the only place I've ever seen 'protestant hate' is online, and these should not be treated credibly.
 
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You got me thinking, so I looked up the definition of the word “weird.”

weird—adj. meaning: odd, strange, out of the realm of normalcy. Old English. 13th century. Example: An Orthodox Christian on an Orthodox forum named after a Roman Catholic writer/satirist commentator.

You learn something new each day. :sorry::sorry::sorry:^_^
Touché. :)
 
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West Coast, baby....no snow, no black ice, no blizzards, no heating oil or salting roads, just living the good life with cities like San Francisco allowing homeless people to poop on the streets and leave their heroin needles everywhere, great weather, LGBT maniac parades, Southern California rioting periodically, a little earthquakage, and a baseball team I love!^_^

With sports I love the Steelers and my favorite AL team is the Red Sox, so I like some East Coast action! Celtics, too!

I keep thinking of leaving California someday because I'm a gun guy. I shoot a lot, and second amendment is my issue. I hate the LGBT nazism in California and the socialism. But then I see where Virginia, Texas, and Arizona are going and where NY and New England and Hawaii and other places have gone with liberal laws, and I am starting to think I'll stay put and just enjoy the good weather! LOL
I moved from the central coast to Texas a few yrs. ago and about all I miss is the redwoods and the ocean (although there is sort of a beach 3 hrs. away). But, just about anyone with a tv seems to be going the way of the liberal. Texas still is better overall, imo. Especially for raising kids.
 
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Sometimes they have difficulty forgiving protestants as a whole because of personal experience when converting to Orthodoxy. It is occasionally the case where the convert is disowned by their family or faces similarly extreme reactions from family and/or previous support system. In this case, this isn't hate, it's just personal struggle.

But as a whole, the only place I've ever seen 'protestant hate' is online, and these should not be treated credibly.
I am already having to work hard to not develop it. I see the struggle.
 
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What part of the Central Coast?

I moved from the central coast to Texas a few yrs. ago and about all I miss is the redwoods and the ocean (although there is sort of a beach 3 hrs. away). But, just about anyone with a tv seems to be going the way of the liberal. Texas still is better overall, imo. Especially for raising kids.
 
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I was talking to some coworkers who are around 10 years younger than me on 9/11 last year. There was a distinct difference in our perspective and understanding of the impact of 9/11. I was a senior in high school, attending some college classes, and they were still in elementary school / early middle school. A classmate in my college class was pulled out of class because her father worked in the twin towers. The silence of the room was deafening. While we experienced every second of it in shock and watched the aftermath unfold, they didn’t understand or feel its import. To them, it was a historical event. To us, it altered our view of the world.
For us younger folks it really depended on who/what was around you. I was in the sixth grade, but my dad worked for the Coast Guard version of NCIS in Seattle. I don't remember the world changing overnight per say, but there was definitely a noticeable different vibe in the coming weeks. I remember the day of, we had an all school mass at my Catholic school and we had more visitors coming in from the street than we did any other weekday mass. I decided I'd eventually join the military that day, but didn't end up joining until 2012. I didn't join until well after high school because I didn't want to go to Iraq. Now I'm in a class with someone born after 9/11 and I feel old!

I feel obliged to comment, as a millennial on the other side of the border as dzheremi. Depending on what year you want to use as the cutoff, I sometimes count as a Gen Z, sometimes as a millennial. (I relate far more closely to the millennial side of things though, especially relating to technology - I definitely didn't grow up with digital, and I remember when my family got a computer, when my dad got his first cell phone for work, the switch from analog to digital clocks, etc.)
I'm on the same side of Millennial as you are. I like Iliza Shlesinger's term "Elder Millennial" :cool:^_^

Santa Cruz (mountains).
Ah, the hippie magnet of the coast :rolleyes:
Beautiful, but so weird. I'm in Monterey until the end of the year. I've been up to Santa Cruz a few times and there's just so many burned out hippies. It's ridiculous.
 
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